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        <p>
Earlier this morning, Jeff Kunins posted the announcement that <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/10/14/messenger-connect-is-out-of-beta-and-available-worldwide.aspx">Messenger
Connect is out of beta and available worldwide</a>. Key excerpts from his post include 
</p>
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          <p>
            <em>Today, we are pleased to announce that <b>Messenger Connect is out of beta and
available worldwide</b>. We’ve gotten a great response so far: leading sharing syndicators
ShareThis, AddThis, Gigya, and AddToThis have already made the Windows Live </em>
            <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/ff796213.aspx">
              <em>sharing
badge</em>
            </a>
            <em> available on more than 1 million websites (check it out now on </em>
            <a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=nikon+d90&amp;form=QBRE&amp;qs=AS&amp;sk=AS1&amp;pq=nikon+&amp;sp=2&amp;sc=8-6">
              <em>Bing</em>
            </a>
            <em>). </em>
            <br />
            <em>…</em>
            <br />
            <em>Over 2500 developers gave us great feedback during the beta, helping us to refine
and improve this release of Messenger Connect. Below is a quick summary, but for all
the details check out </em>
            <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/developer/archive/2010/10/12/what-is-new-in-the-latest-messenger-connect-release.aspx">
              <em>this
post from Angus on the Windows Live for Developers blog</em>
            </a>
            <em>. Our focus with
the release of Messenger Connect was to make it easier for partners to adopt, without
compromising user privacy.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <b>
              <em>
              </em>
            </b>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>Easier to check out </b>–We made it faster and simpler for partners to try
out Messenger Connect and determine if it would be useful for their sites. For example:
you can try out the </em>
              <a href="http://messengerconnectchatcontrol.mslivelabs.com/">
                <em>real
time chat control</em>
              </a>
              <em> without needing to write any code. </em>
              <br />
              <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/6305.devlivecom_5F00_653D6D80.png">
                <em>
                  <img title="Learn at the Windows Live Developer Center" border="0" alt="Learn at the Windows Live Developer Center" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/7128.devlivecom_5F00_thumb_5F00_27CD08F9.png" width="530" height="531" />
                </em>
              </a>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>Easier to adopt and integrate– </b>We<b></b>reduced the effort needed for
sites to implement Messenger Connect usefully and powerfully by providing new tools
and sample code for </em>
              <a href="http://messengerconnectactivities.mslivelabs.com">
                <em>ActivityStrea.ms
template selectors</em>
              </a>
              <em> and more. 
<br /></em>
              <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/0714.clip_5F00_image006_5F00_128EDD84.jpg">
                <em>
                  <img title="Sample code" border="0" alt="Sample code" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/4035.clip_5F00_image006_5F00_thumb_5F00_70C304F2.jpg" width="530" height="346" />
                </em>
              </a>
            </li>
          </ul>
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        <p>
A number of folks worked really hard behind the scenes to get us to this point and
I’m glad to see what we’ve shipped today. I haven’t announced this on my blog yet
but I recently took over as the Lead Program Manager responsible for our Messenger
Connect and related platform efforts in Windows Live. If you’ve been a regular reader
of my blog it shouldn’t be a surprise that I’ve decided to make working on building
open web platforms my day job and not just a hobby I was interested in. 
</p>
        <p>
As Angus Logan says in his <a title="Windows Live for Developers Blog: What is new in the latest Messenger Connect release" href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/developer/archive/2010/10/12/what-is-new-in-the-latest-messenger-connect-release.aspx">follow
up blog post on the Windows Live for Developers blog</a>; this is just the beginning.
We’d love to get feedback from the community of developers on what we’ve released
and the feedback we’ve gotten thus far has been immensely helpful. You can find us
at <a href="http://dev.live.com/forums">http://dev.live.com/forums</a></p>
        <p>
PS: Since someone asked on Twitter, you can find out more about Messenger Connect
by reading <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff749031.aspx">What is
Messenger Connect?</a></p>
        <p>
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Flocka Flame</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Waka+Flocka+Flame+No+Hands&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">No
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      <title>On Messenger Connect being out of beta and my new gig</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Earlier this morning, Jeff Kunins posted the announcement that &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/10/14/messenger-connect-is-out-of-beta-and-available-worldwide.aspx"&gt;Messenger
Connect is out of beta and available worldwide&lt;/a&gt;. Key excerpts from his post include 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Today, we are pleased to announce that &lt;b&gt;Messenger Connect is out of beta and
available worldwide&lt;/b&gt;. We’ve gotten a great response so far: leading sharing syndicators
ShareThis, AddThis, Gigya, and AddToThis have already made the Windows Live &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/ff796213.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;sharing
badge&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; available on more than 1 million websites (check it out now on &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=nikon+d90&amp;amp;form=QBRE&amp;amp;qs=AS&amp;amp;sk=AS1&amp;amp;pq=nikon+&amp;amp;sp=2&amp;amp;sc=8-6"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bing&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;). &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;…&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Over 2500 developers gave us great feedback during the beta, helping us to refine
and improve this release of Messenger Connect. Below is a quick summary, but for all
the details check out &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/developer/archive/2010/10/12/what-is-new-in-the-latest-messenger-connect-release.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;this
post from Angus on the Windows Live for Developers blog&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. Our focus with
the release of Messenger Connect was to make it easier for partners to adopt, without
compromising user privacy.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Easier to check out &lt;/b&gt;–We made it faster and simpler for partners to try
out Messenger Connect and determine if it would be useful for their sites. For example:
you can try out the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://messengerconnectchatcontrol.mslivelabs.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;real
time chat control&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; without needing to write any code. &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/6305.devlivecom_5F00_653D6D80.png"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="Learn at the Windows Live Developer Center" border="0" alt="Learn at the Windows Live Developer Center" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/7128.devlivecom_5F00_thumb_5F00_27CD08F9.png" width="530" height="531" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Easier to adopt and integrate– &lt;/b&gt;We&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;reduced the effort needed for
sites to implement Messenger Connect usefully and powerfully by providing new tools
and sample code for &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://messengerconnectactivities.mslivelabs.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;ActivityStrea.ms
template selectors&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and more. 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/0714.clip_5F00_image006_5F00_128EDD84.jpg"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="Sample code" border="0" alt="Sample code" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-53-82-metablogapi/4035.clip_5F00_image006_5F00_thumb_5F00_70C304F2.jpg" width="530" height="346" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
A number of folks worked really hard behind the scenes to get us to this point and
I’m glad to see what we’ve shipped today. I haven’t announced this on my blog yet
but I recently took over as the Lead Program Manager responsible for our Messenger
Connect and related platform efforts in Windows Live. If you’ve been a regular reader
of my blog it shouldn’t be a surprise that I’ve decided to make working on building
open web platforms my day job and not just a hobby I was interested in. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As Angus Logan says in his &lt;a title="Windows Live for Developers Blog: What is new in the latest Messenger Connect release" href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/developer/archive/2010/10/12/what-is-new-in-the-latest-messenger-connect-release.aspx"&gt;follow
up blog post on the Windows Live for Developers blog&lt;/a&gt;; this is just the beginning.
We’d love to get feedback from the community of developers on what we’ve released
and the feedback we’ve gotten thus far has been immensely helpful. You can find us
at &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/forums"&gt;http://dev.live.com/forums&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
PS: Since someone asked on Twitter, you can find out more about Messenger Connect
by reading &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff749031.aspx"&gt;What is
Messenger Connect?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Waka+Flocka+Flame&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Waka
Flocka Flame&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Waka+Flocka+Flame+No+Hands&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;No
Hands (featuring Roscoe Dash and Wale)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Platforms</category>
      <category>Windows Live</category>
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        <p>
One of the challenging things about working on large scale services that lots of people
use every day is that they get attached to their experience with the site and enjoy
the familiarity. A consequence of this is that there is a large population of users
for whom any change whether good or bad is met with resistance.  
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzLIWNBWYMbW346f953jyQmtbDO4YXdeOrxrWB25gq7936rz5RkWfSi66ZKTfHYmw_JelVA6fRirtKOgyI9zqNQ/Hui%20and%20Enk.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
One of the things that you end up learning when building a product is that if you’re
afraid that a lot of people may complain about the changes you’ve made to the product
they use every day then you’ll end up never making any changes. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pUmFd1UPvh6mXzKCxcNNTjVglYHQOOw6h1eAC-96Ry95uvCxhySUHccuXH8lQakj7ybddVP5HP7qfwF1G2U7LEw/Matt%20and%20Bonnie.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=50+Cent&amp;field-title=It+Is+What+It+Is&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">50
Cent</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=50+Cent+It+Is+What+It+Is&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">It
Is What It Is</a><img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
        <img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=1ba33af9-44c6-4c14-9d57-2b7eeedfdf7a" />
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      <title>Change is bad. No, change is good. No, change is bad unless it’s great</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:02:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
One of the challenging things about working on large scale services that lots of people
use every day is that they get attached to their experience with the site and enjoy
the familiarity. A consequence of this is that there is a large population of users
for whom any change whether good or bad is met with resistance.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzLIWNBWYMbW346f953jyQmtbDO4YXdeOrxrWB25gq7936rz5RkWfSi66ZKTfHYmw_JelVA6fRirtKOgyI9zqNQ/Hui%20and%20Enk.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One of the things that you end up learning when building a product is that if you’re
afraid that a lot of people may complain about the changes you’ve made to the product
they use every day then you’ll end up never making any changes. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pUmFd1UPvh6mXzKCxcNNTjVglYHQOOw6h1eAC-96Ry95uvCxhySUHccuXH8lQakj7ybddVP5HP7qfwF1G2U7LEw/Matt%20and%20Bonnie.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=50+Cent&amp;amp;field-title=It+Is+What+It+Is&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;50
Cent&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=50+Cent+It+Is+What+It+Is&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;It
Is What It Is&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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        <p>
Many moons ago when we were planning the set of social features we would build into
the next version of Windows Live, we were very mindful of the fact that our customers
are inundated with lots of social networking sites and what people need are tools
to manage their relationships across many services not yet another social networking
site. As some of those features have now rolled out to the general public in the form
of betas, I’ve been keeping an eye on social media sites like <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com">Twitter</a> to
see what regular people and techies think about what we’ve shipped. 
</p>
        <h3>What the Techies are Saying
</h3>
        <p>
Yesterday, Omar wrote a post on the Engineering Windows Live blog titled <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/07/13/all-your-contacts-in-one-place.aspx">All
Your Contacts in One Place</a> where he talked about the work we’ve done in creating
a single place where users can view and communicate with not only their Windows Live
friends but also their contacts across multiple services including Facebook, MySpace
and soon LinkedIn. <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/">Chris Messina</a> posted the following
in response to the story 
</p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://twitter.com/chrismessina/status/18474472505">
            <img src="http://hpzfuw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poZCHDS0tqmUlO_3YhLH4H-Iu393feRSyUqYl6Iw-V9-9LQFwEm_-IBPT3Ok9QRXPt9JMvveMDp7mU0FnKwbz0IJydwppuejP/chris.png" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
I’ve <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2010/06/08/MessengerSocialBuildingTheUltimateSocialDashboardForStayingInTouchWhileEliminatingTheNoise.aspx">talked</a> about
the work we’ve done around bringing customer value with the news feed that is integrated
into the new Hotmail experience including how we’ve <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2010/06/28/MessengerSocialEmailAndSocialNewsFeedsAreTheNewPeanutButterAndJelly.aspx">blended
email into the news feed experience</a> in recent posts. So I was pleased to see the
following tweet from <a href="http://staynalive.com/">Jesse Stay</a></p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://twitter.com/Jesse/status/18490113306">
            <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzJ_KhzrpRzn4DVwT81lQa3TDigEDQc6UtIOvYeIJ7szA2heeanrrvLs6A2F_UBSj8cZZhpYj_Oh3XIdrT7a5rg/jesse.png" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
Thanks Jesse
</p>
        <h3>Facebook Users on Windows Live
</h3>
        <p>
I regularly perform Facebook searches to see what people who are using the <a href="http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-beta">Windows
Live Essentials beta</a> think about the investments we’ve made in bringing social
networking to the desktop in a big way. Here’s a sampling of some of the feedback
I’ve found 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pCGurk5SThFvWr152pPWsqe4HU2u36arvnf0DXQr4c1pqTYho_NsKuu2YrfrDcANx8JustVltaDXA6tNYtswbGQ/Jaime.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKYmKwOIwqSfbZC3vFNxSsz3cUKbYaIf9cstywgT-kGz7Su9jNklQPcssYA6UjeuKOcFHgA7gEF_Xg/Samant.png?psid=2" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pvBjoQkjec145UL-APFnNqKXfGeaO664jrpMWxaXW_suBCo7T86tLl9Wq_Sbbj9ic47OZ2Em2xejufSjqLMG7Jw/Adam.png" />
        </p>
        <h3>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnclTDJ-wXMh0U7aeHhId2bQ9yXg6JBm1KV1FkGap1Kj266DmmgBogf5bX_pf5yRScYxyNGa0NjwWfL46OWMzUA/Buddha.png" />
        </h3>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pV9CyP9WaSn1dSi2nNeB8856oCRH2RvaLndnkrvqXUI2u9VLNiwZ4cC2lHBgyenNx8l79yDLT7KB9tm0BXUi-OQ/Tylar.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKZYMlbPdv1Dc9VdpIyAeAX5_7_ypNx--GYU_tY-KOLsYnIndSGstOiZMrHaMHFLxCesCuAB-ncjgA/Randy.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://hpzfuw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1psOANmREYi6_v8ToaQ7zcdb2-2K9W8H9heqX5yQv6R-fDRlKT6VAywF6HMt7qDfbtisMvL8zYXIlRwmp92Wb5iYXed_Z8gvwL/Hector.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKYMS1OffPU0Re56EXIpJLQvtnq2AeTlp1uFU6ekmlxUUNGQf_9VOCp6fqxe5PgFwQzdssNpqh6Frw/Rory.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
You get the idea. <img alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/5oeCPTazLAJxhccDO!c5Cg/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /></p>
        <h3>Twitter Users on Windows Live
</h3>
        <p>
I performed the same sorts of searches on Twitter and found similar feedback. Here
are a few of my favorites 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzJ_KhzrpRzmWhBg98BxAbQEH4F13NmUqiJGzg_O-s2Ju_YMDyfnr-zdOACl_YUNNs0LtctJbLZsQbifazsr8kA/KSitjar.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKbo7TB_FhZcpVBvj35y-h6npBPyv2u7ahAXi60EL57OdOgW0HtKd290X2kWU811KDoFmz_3EhO6bw/peterbromberg.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnclTDJ-wXMivtCiZ_WjEyUWEMVsCvtzpXy6Ut6PdbCxbfdO2O3gAcqvrxX5GeQiY3xmSakgaeymlPrvquzPwpA/adarsh.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
It’s really exciting to see so many people validating the design choices we made and
enjoying the product that we’ve spent the last couple of months building. The outpouring
of positive feedback has been really humbling and has me jazzed up to build even more
things that make people happier as they connect with the people they care about using
our products. 
</p>
        <p>
Thank you to everyone who has tried out the various betas. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Eminem&amp;field-title=Love+The+Way+You+Lie&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Eminem</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Eminem+Love+The+Way+You+Lie&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Love
The Way You Lie (featuring Rihanna)</a><img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
        <img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=26a9a536-067e-4d3e-b9c5-7057981c67cd" />
      </body>
      <title>What People are Saying about Social Networking in Windows Live (wave 4)</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:16:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Many moons ago when we were planning the set of social features we would build into
the next version of Windows Live, we were very mindful of the fact that our customers
are inundated with lots of social networking sites and what people need are tools
to manage their relationships across many services not yet another social networking
site. As some of those features have now rolled out to the general public in the form
of betas, I’ve been keeping an eye on social media sites like &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; to
see what regular people and techies think about what we’ve shipped. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;What the Techies are Saying
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yesterday, Omar wrote a post on the Engineering Windows Live blog titled &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/07/13/all-your-contacts-in-one-place.aspx"&gt;All
Your Contacts in One Place&lt;/a&gt; where he talked about the work we’ve done in creating
a single place where users can view and communicate with not only their Windows Live
friends but also their contacts across multiple services including Facebook, MySpace
and soon LinkedIn. &lt;a href="http://factoryjoe.com/"&gt;Chris Messina&lt;/a&gt; posted the following
in response to the story 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/chrismessina/status/18474472505"&gt;&lt;img src="http://hpzfuw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poZCHDS0tqmUlO_3YhLH4H-Iu393feRSyUqYl6Iw-V9-9LQFwEm_-IBPT3Ok9QRXPt9JMvveMDp7mU0FnKwbz0IJydwppuejP/chris.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I’ve &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2010/06/08/MessengerSocialBuildingTheUltimateSocialDashboardForStayingInTouchWhileEliminatingTheNoise.aspx"&gt;talked&lt;/a&gt; about
the work we’ve done around bringing customer value with the news feed that is integrated
into the new Hotmail experience including how we’ve &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2010/06/28/MessengerSocialEmailAndSocialNewsFeedsAreTheNewPeanutButterAndJelly.aspx"&gt;blended
email into the news feed experience&lt;/a&gt; in recent posts. So I was pleased to see the
following tweet from &lt;a href="http://staynalive.com/"&gt;Jesse Stay&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Jesse/status/18490113306"&gt;&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzJ_KhzrpRzn4DVwT81lQa3TDigEDQc6UtIOvYeIJ7szA2heeanrrvLs6A2F_UBSj8cZZhpYj_Oh3XIdrT7a5rg/jesse.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Thanks Jesse
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Facebook Users on Windows Live
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I regularly perform Facebook searches to see what people who are using the &lt;a href="http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-beta"&gt;Windows
Live Essentials beta&lt;/a&gt; think about the investments we’ve made in bringing social
networking to the desktop in a big way. Here’s a sampling of some of the feedback
I’ve found 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pCGurk5SThFvWr152pPWsqe4HU2u36arvnf0DXQr4c1pqTYho_NsKuu2YrfrDcANx8JustVltaDXA6tNYtswbGQ/Jaime.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKYmKwOIwqSfbZC3vFNxSsz3cUKbYaIf9cstywgT-kGz7Su9jNklQPcssYA6UjeuKOcFHgA7gEF_Xg/Samant.png?psid=2" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pvBjoQkjec145UL-APFnNqKXfGeaO664jrpMWxaXW_suBCo7T86tLl9Wq_Sbbj9ic47OZ2Em2xejufSjqLMG7Jw/Adam.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnclTDJ-wXMh0U7aeHhId2bQ9yXg6JBm1KV1FkGap1Kj266DmmgBogf5bX_pf5yRScYxyNGa0NjwWfL46OWMzUA/Buddha.png" /&gt;
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pV9CyP9WaSn1dSi2nNeB8856oCRH2RvaLndnkrvqXUI2u9VLNiwZ4cC2lHBgyenNx8l79yDLT7KB9tm0BXUi-OQ/Tylar.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKZYMlbPdv1Dc9VdpIyAeAX5_7_ypNx--GYU_tY-KOLsYnIndSGstOiZMrHaMHFLxCesCuAB-ncjgA/Randy.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://hpzfuw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1psOANmREYi6_v8ToaQ7zcdb2-2K9W8H9heqX5yQv6R-fDRlKT6VAywF6HMt7qDfbtisMvL8zYXIlRwmp92Wb5iYXed_Z8gvwL/Hector.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKYMS1OffPU0Re56EXIpJLQvtnq2AeTlp1uFU6ekmlxUUNGQf_9VOCp6fqxe5PgFwQzdssNpqh6Frw/Rory.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
You get the idea. &lt;img alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/5oeCPTazLAJxhccDO!c5Cg/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Twitter Users on Windows Live
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I performed the same sorts of searches on Twitter and found similar feedback. Here
are a few of my favorites 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pzJ_KhzrpRzmWhBg98BxAbQEH4F13NmUqiJGzg_O-s2Ju_YMDyfnr-zdOACl_YUNNs0LtctJbLZsQbifazsr8kA/KSitjar.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1prtjOW2xVEKbo7TB_FhZcpVBvj35y-h6npBPyv2u7ahAXi60EL57OdOgW0HtKd290X2kWU811KDoFmz_3EhO6bw/peterbromberg.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnclTDJ-wXMivtCiZ_WjEyUWEMVsCvtzpXy6Ut6PdbCxbfdO2O3gAcqvrxX5GeQiY3xmSakgaeymlPrvquzPwpA/adarsh.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It’s really exciting to see so many people validating the design choices we made and
enjoying the product that we’ve spent the last couple of months building. The outpouring
of positive feedback has been really humbling and has me jazzed up to build even more
things that make people happier as they connect with the people they care about using
our products. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Thank you to everyone who has tried out the various betas. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Eminem&amp;amp;field-title=Love+The+Way+You+Lie&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Eminem&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Eminem+Love+The+Way+You+Lie&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Love
The Way You Lie (featuring Rihanna)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=26a9a536-067e-4d3e-b9c5-7057981c67cd" /&gt;</description>
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      <category>Social Software</category>
      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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      <title>Messenger Social: Email and Social News Feeds are the new Peanut Butter and Jelly</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:59:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
One of the things I’ve noticed while working on Windows Live is that it helps to think
about communications tools such as email, IM and social media sites as being parts
of a continuum as opposed to being rigidly defined product categories. They are all
ways we share our thoughts, ideas and interesting things we’ve online with others
where the main difference is really how public or private the communication channel
is and how synchronous we want the conversation to be. Once you start looking at communications
tools this way it starts opening the door to asking how we can bring some of these
experiences closer together. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Over on the Windows Live blog there have been a number of good blog posts on this
topic. Piero Sierra wrote in the blog post &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/03/25/sharing-2-0.aspx"&gt;Sharing
2.0&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;em&gt;Our data is everywhere&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;People store their stuff across the web, their PCs and their mobile phones, leading
to fragmented access and fragmented sharing. Take the example of photo-sharing. A
study we ran in September 2009 showed that people stored their photos across up to
15 different types of technologies. Here are the major ones:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/windowslive/Where_5F00_we_5F00_store_5F00_our_5F00_photos_5F00_1F184C46.png"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="Graph illustrating where we store our photos" border="0" alt="Graph illustrating where we store our photos" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/windowslive/Where_5F00_we_5F00_store_5F00_our_5F00_photos_5F00_thumb_5F00_6C4845D1.png" width="349" height="332" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;It would be nice, not only to have everything in one location, but also to be
able to access all this stuff and share from wherever you may be, especially from &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://mobile.live.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;mobile
phones&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and PCs that you may not own.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;em&gt;We're putting it all out there&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;It seems like our appetite for using technology to connect with each other is
bottomless, whether it be directed communications with the people we love (email,
IM), sharing with groups of friends (email, social networking), or full-on public
broadcasting (blogs, micro-blogs, photo &amp; video dedicated sites, etc.)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Whenever a new medium emerges, it doesn’t replace the previous
ones – it adds to it. That is, people today are sending email and IM and updating
their status on social networks and uploading photos everywhere.&lt;/font&gt; They're sharing
their thoughts and their memories to stay in touch with each other. Sharing and consuming
shared data has become the primary internet activity for many of our customers, right
up there with shopping and reading news.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
With regards to email and sharing specifically, there’s another good blog post on
this topic by Dick Craddock titled &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2010/03/29/email-in-a-world-of-social-networking.aspx"&gt;Email
in a World of Social Networking&lt;/a&gt; where he wrote
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Recently, we surveyed 2,000 people in the US, where nearly 10 million additional
people have started to use Hotmail actively over the last year. Our goal was to refresh
our understanding of how people use their personal email accounts, particularly in
this day of heavy usage of social networks for communications. We surveyed people
who use&lt;b&gt; AOL, Gmail, Hotmail&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;Yahoo! Mail&lt;/b&gt; – 500 people for each service.
Here’s a bit of what they shared with us.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/windowslive/CommunicationChoice_5F00_012EE270.jpg"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="Graphic comparing communication choices" border="0" alt="Graphic comparing communication choices" src="http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/windowslive/CommunicationChoice_5F00_thumb_5F00_2EB00233.jpg" width="252" height="349" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;You’re still very attached to your personal email accounts&lt;/b&gt;. We asked the
survey group which communication method they would choose if they were allowed to
keep only one to communicate with friends and family. Of the choices – email, texting,
IM, or the ability to post to their favorite social network – most people told us
they’d choose email over all of the other communication methods and tools. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Email is today’s tool of choice&lt;/b&gt; for managing and sharing documents, interacting
with businesses, tracking online activities, receiving and responding to social networking
alerts, communicating with friends and family, dating, and so on. Your inbox is your
job search strategy room, your filing cabinet, your to-do list, and your social center &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Email is your online photo album, too&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;People send
and receive over 1.5 billion photos each month on Hotmail alone, and email is still
the most popular way to share photos.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
One of the things that became clear from us from this data is that there’s a good
overlap in the kinds of activities that go on in email and what we see in social networks.
Some of your friends share photos with you by posting them to Flickr while others
send emails with photos as attachments. Sometimes you find out about new comments
on photos you posted to Facebook by going to &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com"&gt;http://www.facebook.com&lt;/a&gt; and
other times you discover this because you got a notification email. Either way, there’s
a lot of overlap in the actual problem being solved although the technology may differ. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So what are we doing to simplify things in Windows Live’s Wave 4 release? Glad you
asked. &lt;img style="border-bottom-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style: none; border-left-style: none" class="wlEmoticon wlEmoticon-smile" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/5oeCPTazLAJxhccDO!c5Cg/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Emails with Photo Attachments and Messenger Social
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One of the goals we set out with for Wave 4 was to ensure that people should be able
to keep up with what their friends are sharing with them no matter where their friends
are. This is the motivation behind the integrations we’ve done with popular social
networks like MySpace and Facebook. However as you can tell from the blog posts mentioned
above, email is also an important way for your friends to share updates and media
with you. What we’ve done in this release is to bring in emails that are used for
sharing photos from your contacts into the Messenger Social feed across all experiences
where it is displayed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the web: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1prQFlmXC5HmJCTD_E9XioEJakrUi5NtyydYVv4mSUbEyTIRLIHk4GFbXT_IpXyDmGaGE9olKI5JWg1c9ujptF0w/photo%20email.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the desktop: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1psiIm85CQm909os106w2i3PbPGiDpmS5Bib5IRdaWlsp-67-CEA_NacZuQSQL4jPbZnATo_xdsc1RnL4lblFbrA/despair.jpg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Emails from your Social Networks and Messenger Social
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The goal of the Messenger Social feed is to keep you up to date on what your friends
are doing. One of the things your friends do is comment on the stuff you post on various
social networks. Invariably you get a mail about these comments and we thought to
ourselves that these email updates are just as valid to show in your feed as the comments
attached to people’s updates that are typically in the feed. Thanks to diligent work
of the Hotmail folks who built a bunch of excellent technology around recognizing
and categorizing emails from social networks, you now get updates such as 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pB7-_z8FHbEaz3076rs72sYMVIwqum-UxeWs-ZsGhsHze6d-5hUD6eaLqERqdSeXps09QHaLuzGSsv9iumZOIzg/comment%20email.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
in the Messenger Social feed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;What Do Customers Think of the Blending of Email Content in a Social News Feed?
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Since Messenger is still in beta and Hotmail has just begun to roll out not a lot
of people (relatively given over 350 million users) have seen this feature yet. Anecdotally,
I’ve heard lots of positive feedback about this feature from a bunch of beta users
but my favorite is the following comment taken from the reviews of the &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#"&gt;Windows
Live Messenger iPhone app&lt;/a&gt; from the Apple App Store(comment #33). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pvWcvyZY3kLa67LAzmTls0rFM8ZNh-I364lkxPZtwpuFHZySHhSwg3mHiOdStWjnAjCrjGOSQ0hUghrg4HWOY3w/1277313973_695268.jpeg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Waka+Flocka+Flame&amp;field-title=Oh+Lets+Do+it&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Waka
Flocka Flame&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Waka+Flocka+Flame+Oh+Lets+Do+It&amp;x=0&amp;y=0"&gt;Oh
Lets Do It (remix) (feat. Gucci Mane, P. Diddy &amp; Rick Ross)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
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        <p>
One of my favorite things we built in Wave 4 of Windows Live is now available. You
can now download <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#">Windows
Live for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad</a> from the US app store. You can also get
it from the <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#">France</a>, <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#">UK</a> and <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#">Canadian</a> app
stores. The app kicks serious butt and I use it every day.
</p>
        <p>
The official spiel is as follows 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Windows Live Messenger for iPhone and iPod Touch is the best way to connect with
the people that matter most and keep up with the things they are doing across the
web. Use your iPhone to instant message your friends list, view and comment on your
friends’ photos and status updates from Windows Live, Facebook, and MySpace, and at
a glance, see what your Messenger friends are sharing from Flickr, YouTube, and many
other social and photo sharing sites. Make sure to visit http://profile.live.com/Services
today and setup Windows Live to bring in your social networks. Messenger is simply
the best way to connect with your closest friends.</em>
            <em>
            </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <u>Chat:</u>
              <br />
Instant message with your Windows Live Messenger and Y! Messenger contacts on the
go so you’re always connected to the people that matter most. You can even receive
IM notifications when your app is closed so you never miss a message. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <u>Social:</u>
              <br />
Windows Live Messenger gives you one place to view the updates your Messenger friends
are sharing from social networks like Facebook, Flickr, MySpace and more, helping
you cut through the clutter on the go. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <u>Photos:</u>
              <br />
Upload photos right from your phone to share your favorite moments with the people
that matter most. Create albums, add captions, and let your friends and family comment
on your photos. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <u>Hotmail:</u>
              <br />
Access your Hotmail account without leaving the app to read, reply to, and compose
emails. Get email notifications within the application so you know when you have new
messages.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
For me, push notifications when I get new IMs is the killer feature. I used to think
IM was dead on smartphones until I used this app and realized that the problem was
really lack of an IM client with push notifications. If you use Windows Live Messenger,
you need to cop this app today. If you need further convincing here are some pretty
pictures 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pWseYQnLVNZwakPGCkf0uGjUMxduySsDbG69CULQWcLkZyUj0arUBoHQCeZP0dbczEepgXOtdzsmfhNEh03ih9vSpHYT5wt-R/iPhone%20Social.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pMNmlKVGxhZsfIpr6pBG2KtB_G1YF3tQIFy8zeCdBTdFo5VLJa1qQ6L0NueMt2P9p8HTjT9kOdBBblHlEOsRGdg/iPhone%20Friends.jpg" />
        </p>
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          <img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1phr3055fDVwNnxBi_ts-90ArXTjenSDyvw9p0POR8erCt7euuBCyJ9NGTTDR6yeF2YLFFCsjo0FXA7Gd6uIECifRpa7veUNK7/iPhone%20Chats.jpg" />
        </p>
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          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pfXtJxNf6HDBtA2CNEb_4ZxnFWbiC3fJ-MN5SLxzrxyytLgMZulrHop4uKEcyloGsfWCocxEGlEpFlCQ_DtVdIw/iPhone%20Photos.jpg" />
          <br />
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        <br />
        <br />
        <br />
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Snap&amp;field-title=The+Power&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Snap</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Snap+The+Power&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">The
Power</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Windows Live Messenger on the iPhone – Get it now from the App Store (CA, FR, GB, US)</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:03:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
One of my favorite things we built in Wave 4 of Windows Live is now available. You
can now download &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#"&gt;Windows
Live for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad&lt;/a&gt; from the US app store. You can also get
it from the &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#"&gt;France&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#"&gt;UK&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/windows-live-messenger/id376196406?mt=8#"&gt;Canadian&lt;/a&gt; app
stores. The app kicks serious butt and I use it every day.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The official spiel is as follows 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Windows Live Messenger for iPhone and iPod Touch is the best way to connect with
the people that matter most and keep up with the things they are doing across the
web. Use your iPhone to instant message your friends list, view and comment on your
friends’ photos and status updates from Windows Live, Facebook, and MySpace, and at
a glance, see what your Messenger friends are sharing from Flickr, YouTube, and many
other social and photo sharing sites. Make sure to visit http://profile.live.com/Services
today and setup Windows Live to bring in your social networks. Messenger is simply
the best way to connect with your closest friends.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Chat:&lt;/u&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
Instant message with your Windows Live Messenger and Y! Messenger contacts on the
go so you’re always connected to the people that matter most. You can even receive
IM notifications when your app is closed so you never miss a message. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Social:&lt;/u&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
Windows Live Messenger gives you one place to view the updates your Messenger friends
are sharing from social networks like Facebook, Flickr, MySpace and more, helping
you cut through the clutter on the go. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Photos:&lt;/u&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
Upload photos right from your phone to share your favorite moments with the people
that matter most. Create albums, add captions, and let your friends and family comment
on your photos. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hotmail:&lt;/u&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
Access your Hotmail account without leaving the app to read, reply to, and compose
emails. Get email notifications within the application so you know when you have new
messages.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
For me, push notifications when I get new IMs is the killer feature. I used to think
IM was dead on smartphones until I used this app and realized that the problem was
really lack of an IM client with push notifications. If you use Windows Live Messenger,
you need to cop this app today. If you need further convincing here are some pretty
pictures 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pWseYQnLVNZwakPGCkf0uGjUMxduySsDbG69CULQWcLkZyUj0arUBoHQCeZP0dbczEepgXOtdzsmfhNEh03ih9vSpHYT5wt-R/iPhone%20Social.jpg" /&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pMNmlKVGxhZsfIpr6pBG2KtB_G1YF3tQIFy8zeCdBTdFo5VLJa1qQ6L0NueMt2P9p8HTjT9kOdBBblHlEOsRGdg/iPhone%20Friends.jpg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1phr3055fDVwNnxBi_ts-90ArXTjenSDyvw9p0POR8erCt7euuBCyJ9NGTTDR6yeF2YLFFCsjo0FXA7Gd6uIECifRpa7veUNK7/iPhone%20Chats.jpg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pfXtJxNf6HDBtA2CNEb_4ZxnFWbiC3fJ-MN5SLxzrxyytLgMZulrHop4uKEcyloGsfWCocxEGlEpFlCQ_DtVdIw/iPhone%20Photos.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Snap&amp;amp;field-title=The+Power&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Snap&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Snap+The+Power&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;The
Power&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
Over the past year or so, I’ve been part of the team working on building the next
version of the social news feed on Windows Live. Yesterday, the next iteration of
this feature was made broadly available on <a href="http://home.live.com">http://home.live.com</a> and <a href="http://profile.live.com">http://profile.live.com</a>.
As I look back at the work we’ve done there are a number of things I love about the
philosophy behind what we’ve built and the actual features we’ve implemented. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwXSv8PVEQE4_svx3ZPXeSm1RX_ZGgYBjpXBkNkgnI_volPcysSyYip9ga-zJs1HdgdEB65qUIdneMJ-2OZ40WbYfSHZZBeZH/social.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
The above screenshot shows the header for Messenger Social feed on the Windows Live
home page and captures a number of it’s key concepts. 
</p>
        <h3>Highlights from your Favorite People 
</h3>
        <p>
One of the key problems we want to address with this release is the conflicting feelings
of information overload from getting a flood of minutiae on a daily basis from people
you’d barely consider acquaintances and the feeling of not seeing enough stuff from
the people you actually care about because they are being drowned out by other less
important people. The way we’ve approached this problem is <a title="http://windowslivepreview.com/messenger/new/#benefit_2" href="http://windowslivepreview.com/messenger/new/#benefit_2">described
on the Messenger Preview site</a> and excerpted below 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Because most people today use a variety of social networks and content sharing
sites, with different sets of friends and acquaintances dispersed throughout these
disparate networks, it can be challenging — and exhausting — to visit different websites
and create different accounts just to keep abreast of your friends’ updates. But it
isn’t just about bringing all that data together. What’s really valuable is helping
you filter through the clutter and get to those updates you really care about — the
ones from those people who you communicate with most frequently. There are a lot of
intelligent algorithms and machine learning that can help in this, but we’ve found
one of the best ways is to simply ask people. So, Windows Live Messenger will come
right to the source — YOU — and ask you to specify your favorites:</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
The <em>Highlights</em> filter shows the most interesting recent content from your
social network and strives to ensure you are kept up to date with updates from your
favorites even if they aren’t posting a mile a minute like some of your more active
social networking friends. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1ptEiWympkUaTAqUHN4sS4To_tSykE1iKyb_H8TDNbkQKjJL9LcZtJvJEPhWb8QR_a6oODLRd6ulGzJx3Q4Uzm7g/people-centric.png" width="388" height="526" /> 
</p>
        <p>
The screenshot above captures what this means in practice. Since <a href="http://cid-95a54a46c806b80e.profile-df.live.com/">Omar</a> is
one of my favorites, his updates show up ahead of updates from <a href="http://www.mint.com">Mint.com</a> even
though his are several hours older than those from the Mint fan page. We learned from
experience that although a number of people find the Highlights filter to be a valuable
way to cut through the clutter and view the most interesting updates from their social
network, there are also times when we have time to kill and don’t mind swimming in
the full stream. For those times, we also have a <em>Recent</em> filter which provides
the classic reverse chronological view of a stream of updates from your social network. 
</p>
        <h3>People-centric not Service-centric
</h3>
        <p>
The fundamental idea behind social software is that it enables people to connect with
other people. When we first shipped the feed in Wave 3, it was a key part of our design
philosophy that we would bring together updates from multiple services into a single
experience that emphasized your friends not the services where the data was coming
from. One consequence of this is that updates from multiple services are shown in
a single stream as shown in the screenshot from the previous section. We don’t provide
tabs for multiple services because at the end of the day, what’s important to me is
seeing what my friends said today not what my Windows Live friends said versus what
my Facebook friends said. Instead our filters enable users to decide how they want
to see updates from all of their friends as opposed to making service-centric distinctions. 
</p>
        <p>
Another nice touch is that once I’ve connected a service such as Facebook to Windows
Live (more on that below) when I see an update from a friend in my feed, not only
do I have the options of communicating with him or viewing his data on Windows Live
but also communicating with him via that service as well.  
</p>
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          <img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pk0EXVU5hCkvZgj5WBLR3qPQHl7jLJWkfGa1RHHb41AhjTwgM5pKLCqMf_Z6wb9g_gSpwsqCw6dfXJYWQJ7gKQxWk87zmDXOC/IC.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
and when I click “Send a message (Facebook)” above, it actually takes me to Facebook
to send Omar a message via their messaging feature. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pmn8f1tCOnnCd0yRvkmb02592OH58t5-jmkLTuVYOIjgLM8rZhMF05TCcjKsSaY0LTiCHE5oPlQDobeh1kf4EV_WGRFoZoKPC/omar%20message.png" width="600" height="267" />
        </p>
        <h3>Bi-Directional Connections to Where your Friends are
</h3>
        <p>
In our previous release, we had a feature called <a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces-df.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!30283.entry">Web
Activities</a> which enabled users to share the activities they performed on other
sites such as Facebook, Flickr, MySpace and others with their friends on Windows Live.
A consistent bit of feedback we got was that people wanted our integration with other
sites to be much deeper. They wanted to be able see what their friends where doing
regardless of what network they were on and interact with their content. They also
wanted to be able to share content with their friends regardless of what network they
were on as well. In short, our customers wanted <a href="http://blog.areyoupayingattention.com/2010/04/open-is-not-enough-time-to-raise-the-bar-interoperable/">interoperability,
not just data portability</a>. With our current release we have obliged in spades…
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwAiP0nkO_2og9ZGcYGYrmAmlea3KuuJxZCWySoPLq6KhgfM5KNH9X3I88eTmN9Xvxt3ZRJgzTDgXE_v8-KO9EA/upsell.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
When you first interact with the Messenger Social experience we ask you to connect
your favorite services to Windows Live so you can see what your friends are up to
all over the Web and share what you’re doing on other sites with your friends on Windows
Live. If you got the prompt above when visiting <a href="http://home.live.com">http://home.live.com</a> and
clicked through to Facebook, you’d see the following options to create bidirectional
data flows between Facebook and Windows Live. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p43D8-wDUKNEcgFzoji87gVxTGwJqfkYxzm-OWQ6CWU2UaovZ8Vf5GoRhBHGzZQ85CuugBHq-XhYpDtkS9NZJDA/Connect%20FB.png" width="582" height="359" />
        </p>
        <p>
As I mentioned before, this isn’t about “portability” and asking your friends to leave
Facebook for Windows Live. Instead it is about allowing both sites to interoperate
in a way that enables Windows Live users to stay in touch with their friends without
either set of users having to switch services. Of course, Facebook isn’t the only
social networking service we interoperate with in this manner as you can tell from
the following screen shot
</p>
        <p>
 <img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1plG9yjNYOlKvSVxu_XENeJhH4TZP4hiUjeowCovhTaYObEWp8vDzqIS5yskvt6-T2uWkGX_vRXr7hEAQTNdYE_z-27Aj9xTN4/MySpace%20Connect.png" width="589" height="326" /></p>
        <p>
With these connections made, I not only get to see what my friends are doing across
MySpace and Facebook from within Windows Live but can also broadcast my thoughts to
them from within Windows Live as well. 
</p>
        <p>
Shortly after our features were made available yesterday I created the following status
update
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pa-h2MdGPU9exY7T8pPwrK1w4CPhoP30zxVI3RMUyuwAqwZMJK_7MyPHV3CJrH4qENDtKGhbuah95NNp9PBQCQA/sharing.png" />
        </p>
        <p>
which caused that update to be shared to both my Messenger friends and my Facebook
friends (see the handy iconography in the bottom right). You can see the results from
both sites below 
</p>
        <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="400">
          <tbody>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top" width="200">
                <font size="4">On Facebook</font>
              </td>
              <td valign="top" width="200">
                <font size="4">On Windows Live</font>
              </td>
            </tr>
            <tr>
              <td valign="top" width="200">
                <img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnGQrOGjvs8lv4y5LLHHZRJCB1YdDbKd_XYlk3niyjptldNOFBs5gf4Y95a1evgd1wy5Uig40MC8zzVRxI2tXvMuwYT31tdwM/shared%20fb.png" />
              </td>
              <td valign="top" width="200">
                <img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pOzRywpaXZ7DDaLg5CCmdIwCkbC-tcooEg8_Fi6_S2fx0NIMaoD3Xo3eLbor-bUcPAj7QNUw4G91pEUA1r3vHEA/shared%20wl.png" />
              </td>
            </tr>
          </tbody>
        </table>
        <p>
There’s more good stuff in the release as stuff rolls out across Windows Live and
I’ll be writing more about what we’ve built in the coming weeks. Thanks for reading. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Usher&amp;field-title=OMG&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Usher</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Usher+OMG&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">OMG
(featuring Will.I.Am)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
        <img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=27f8723c-4916-470c-996c-c807fbddef3f" />
      </body>
      <title>Messenger Social: Building the Ultimate Social Dashboard for Staying in Touch while Eliminating the Noise</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Over the past year or so, I’ve been part of the team working on building the next
version of the social news feed on Windows Live. Yesterday, the next iteration of
this feature was made broadly available on &lt;a href="http://home.live.com"&gt;http://home.live.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com"&gt;http://profile.live.com&lt;/a&gt;.
As I look back at the work we’ve done there are a number of things I love about the
philosophy behind what we’ve built and the actual features we’ve implemented. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwXSv8PVEQE4_svx3ZPXeSm1RX_ZGgYBjpXBkNkgnI_volPcysSyYip9ga-zJs1HdgdEB65qUIdneMJ-2OZ40WbYfSHZZBeZH/social.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The above screenshot shows the header for Messenger Social feed on the Windows Live
home page and captures a number of it’s key concepts. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Highlights from your Favorite People 
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One of the key problems we want to address with this release is the conflicting feelings
of information overload from getting a flood of minutiae on a daily basis from people
you’d barely consider acquaintances and the feeling of not seeing enough stuff from
the people you actually care about because they are being drowned out by other less
important people. The way we’ve approached this problem is &lt;a title="http://windowslivepreview.com/messenger/new/#benefit_2" href="http://windowslivepreview.com/messenger/new/#benefit_2"&gt;described
on the Messenger Preview site&lt;/a&gt; and excerpted below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Because most people today use a variety of social networks and content sharing
sites, with different sets of friends and acquaintances dispersed throughout these
disparate networks, it can be challenging — and exhausting — to visit different websites
and create different accounts just to keep abreast of your friends’ updates. But it
isn’t just about bringing all that data together. What’s really valuable is helping
you filter through the clutter and get to those updates you really care about — the
ones from those people who you communicate with most frequently. There are a lot of
intelligent algorithms and machine learning that can help in this, but we’ve found
one of the best ways is to simply ask people. So, Windows Live Messenger will come
right to the source — YOU — and ask you to specify your favorites:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
The &lt;em&gt;Highlights&lt;/em&gt; filter shows the most interesting recent content from your
social network and strives to ensure you are kept up to date with updates from your
favorites even if they aren’t posting a mile a minute like some of your more active
social networking friends. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1ptEiWympkUaTAqUHN4sS4To_tSykE1iKyb_H8TDNbkQKjJL9LcZtJvJEPhWb8QR_a6oODLRd6ulGzJx3Q4Uzm7g/people-centric.png" width="388" height="526" /&gt;&amp;#160;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The screenshot above captures what this means in practice. Since &lt;a href="http://cid-95a54a46c806b80e.profile-df.live.com/"&gt;Omar&lt;/a&gt; is
one of my favorites, his updates show up ahead of updates from &lt;a href="http://www.mint.com"&gt;Mint.com&lt;/a&gt; even
though his are several hours older than those from the Mint fan page. We learned from
experience that although a number of people find the Highlights filter to be a valuable
way to cut through the clutter and view the most interesting updates from their social
network, there are also times when we have time to kill and don’t mind swimming in
the full stream. For those times, we also have a &lt;em&gt;Recent&lt;/em&gt; filter which provides
the classic reverse chronological view of a stream of updates from your social network. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;People-centric not Service-centric
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The fundamental idea behind social software is that it enables people to connect with
other people. When we first shipped the feed in Wave 3, it was a key part of our design
philosophy that we would bring together updates from multiple services into a single
experience that emphasized your friends not the services where the data was coming
from. One consequence of this is that updates from multiple services are shown in
a single stream as shown in the screenshot from the previous section. We don’t provide
tabs for multiple services because at the end of the day, what’s important to me is
seeing what my friends said today not what my Windows Live friends said versus what
my Facebook friends said. Instead our filters enable users to decide how they want
to see updates from all of their friends as opposed to making service-centric distinctions. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Another nice touch is that once I’ve connected a service such as Facebook to Windows
Live (more on that below) when I see an update from a friend in my feed, not only
do I have the options of communicating with him or viewing his data on Windows Live
but also communicating with him via that service as well.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pk0EXVU5hCkvZgj5WBLR3qPQHl7jLJWkfGa1RHHb41AhjTwgM5pKLCqMf_Z6wb9g_gSpwsqCw6dfXJYWQJ7gKQxWk87zmDXOC/IC.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
and when I click “Send a message (Facebook)” above, it actually takes me to Facebook
to send Omar a message via their messaging feature. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pmn8f1tCOnnCd0yRvkmb02592OH58t5-jmkLTuVYOIjgLM8rZhMF05TCcjKsSaY0LTiCHE5oPlQDobeh1kf4EV_WGRFoZoKPC/omar%20message.png" width="600" height="267" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Bi-Directional Connections to Where your Friends are
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In our previous release, we had a feature called &lt;a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces-df.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!30283.entry"&gt;Web
Activities&lt;/a&gt; which enabled users to share the activities they performed on other
sites such as Facebook, Flickr, MySpace and others with their friends on Windows Live.
A consistent bit of feedback we got was that people wanted our integration with other
sites to be much deeper. They wanted to be able see what their friends where doing
regardless of what network they were on and interact with their content. They also
wanted to be able to share content with their friends regardless of what network they
were on as well. In short, our customers wanted &lt;a href="http://blog.areyoupayingattention.com/2010/04/open-is-not-enough-time-to-raise-the-bar-interoperable/"&gt;interoperability,
not just data portability&lt;/a&gt;. With our current release we have obliged in spades…
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwAiP0nkO_2og9ZGcYGYrmAmlea3KuuJxZCWySoPLq6KhgfM5KNH9X3I88eTmN9Xvxt3ZRJgzTDgXE_v8-KO9EA/upsell.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
When you first interact with the Messenger Social experience we ask you to connect
your favorite services to Windows Live so you can see what your friends are up to
all over the Web and share what you’re doing on other sites with your friends on Windows
Live. If you got the prompt above when visiting &lt;a href="http://home.live.com"&gt;http://home.live.com&lt;/a&gt; and
clicked through to Facebook, you’d see the following options to create bidirectional
data flows between Facebook and Windows Live. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p43D8-wDUKNEcgFzoji87gVxTGwJqfkYxzm-OWQ6CWU2UaovZ8Vf5GoRhBHGzZQ85CuugBHq-XhYpDtkS9NZJDA/Connect%20FB.png" width="582" height="359" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As I mentioned before, this isn’t about “portability” and asking your friends to leave
Facebook for Windows Live. Instead it is about allowing both sites to interoperate
in a way that enables Windows Live users to stay in touch with their friends without
either set of users having to switch services. Of course, Facebook isn’t the only
social networking service we interoperate with in this manner as you can tell from
the following screen shot
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;#160;&lt;img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1plG9yjNYOlKvSVxu_XENeJhH4TZP4hiUjeowCovhTaYObEWp8vDzqIS5yskvt6-T2uWkGX_vRXr7hEAQTNdYE_z-27Aj9xTN4/MySpace%20Connect.png" width="589" height="326" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With these connections made, I not only get to see what my friends are doing across
MySpace and Facebook from within Windows Live but can also broadcast my thoughts to
them from within Windows Live as well. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Shortly after our features were made available yesterday I created the following status
update
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pa-h2MdGPU9exY7T8pPwrK1w4CPhoP30zxVI3RMUyuwAqwZMJK_7MyPHV3CJrH4qENDtKGhbuah95NNp9PBQCQA/sharing.png" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
which caused that update to be shared to both my Messenger friends and my Facebook
friends (see the handy iconography in the bottom right). You can see the results from
both sites below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="400"&gt;
&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td valign="top" width="200"&gt;
&lt;font size="4"&gt;On Facebook&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td valign="top" width="200"&gt;
&lt;font size="4"&gt;On Windows Live&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td valign="top" width="200"&gt;
&lt;img src="http://hpxgma.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnGQrOGjvs8lv4y5LLHHZRJCB1YdDbKd_XYlk3niyjptldNOFBs5gf4Y95a1evgd1wy5Uig40MC8zzVRxI2tXvMuwYT31tdwM/shared%20fb.png" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td valign="top" width="200"&gt;
&lt;img src="http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pOzRywpaXZ7DDaLg5CCmdIwCkbC-tcooEg8_Fi6_S2fx0NIMaoD3Xo3eLbor-bUcPAj7QNUw4G91pEUA1r3vHEA/shared%20wl.png" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There’s more good stuff in the release as stuff rolls out across Windows Live and
I’ll be writing more about what we’ve built in the coming weeks. Thanks for reading. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Usher&amp;amp;field-title=OMG&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Usher&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Usher+OMG&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;OMG
(featuring Will.I.Am)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=27f8723c-4916-470c-996c-c807fbddef3f" /&gt;</description>
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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        <p>
Earlier this morning, Ori Amiga posted <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowslive/archive/2010/04/29/messenger-across-the-web.aspx">Messenger
across the Web</a> on the Inside Windows Live blog. Key excerpts from his blog post
include 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Earlier today, John Richards and </em>
            <a href="http://www.anguslogan.com/">
              <em>Angus
Logan</em>
            </a>
            <em> took the stage at The </em>
            <a href="http://thenextweb.com/conference/">
              <em>Next
Web Conference in Amsterdam</em>
            </a>
            <em> where they announced Messenger Connect –
a new way for partners and developers to connect with Messenger. Messenger Connect
allows web, Windows and mobile app developers to create compelling social experiences
on their websites and apps by providing them with social promotion and distribution
via Messenger.</em>
          </p>
          <em>… </em>
          <h3>
            <em>Messenger Connect</em>
          </h3>
          <p>
            <em>Messenger Connect brings the individual APIs we’ve had for a long time (Windows
Live ID, Contacts API, </em>
            <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd570035.aspx">
              <em>Messenger
Web Toolkit</em>
            </a>
            <em>, etc.) together in a single API that's based on industry
standards and specifications (</em>
            <a href="http://wiki.oauth.net/OAuth-WRAP">
              <em>OAuth
WRAP</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://ActivityStrea.ms">
              <em>ActivityStrea.ms</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://www.portablecontacts.net">
              <em>PortableContacts</em>
            </a>
            <em>)
and adds a number of new scenarios. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>The new Messenger Connect provides our developer partners with three big things: </em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>
                <u>Instantly create a user profile and social graph:</u>
                <strong>
                </strong>Messenger
user profile and social graph information allows our shared customers to easily sign-in
and access their friends list and profile information. This allows our partners to
more rapidly personalize their experiences, provides a ready-made social graph for
customers to interact with, and provides a channel to easily invite additional friends
to join in. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <u>Drive engagement directly through chat indirectly through social distribution:</u> By
enabling both real-time instant messaging conversations (chat) and feed-based sharing
options for customers on their site, developers can drive additional engagement and
usage of their experiences by connecting to the over 320 million Messenger customers
worldwide. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <u>Designing for easy integration in your technical environment:</u> We are delivering
an API service that will expose a RESTful interface, and we’ll wrap those in a range
of libraries (including JavaScript, .NET, and others). Websites and apps will be able
to choose the right integration type for their specific scenario. Some websites prefer
to keep everything at the presentation tier, and use JavaScript libraries when the
user is present. Others may prefer to do server-side integration, so they can call
the RESTful endpoints from back-end processes. We're aiming to provide the same set
of capabilities across the API service and the libraries that we offer.</em>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
I’m really proud of the work that’s gone into building Messenger Connect. Although
I was in some of the early discussions around it, I ducked out early to focus on the
platform behind <a href="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8-3NXZ5cmIMOkWe2cej88un_XE5zP4vNs6KOiKDb-PUnaupAT1IYI1CZ62FdpGtqE0LbPbzpCHy9-4aIFRiSPw/MainMessengerWindow.png">the
new social view in Messenger</a> and didn’t have much insight into the day to day
of building the product. However I’ve got to say I love the way the project has turned
out. I suspect a lot of web developers will as well. 
</p>
        <p>
Kudos to Ori and the rest of the team. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Ludacris&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Ludacris</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Ludacris+My+Chick+Bad&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">My
Chick Bad (featuring Nicki Minaj)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Messenger Connect announced</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:45:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Earlier this morning, Ori Amiga posted &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowslive/archive/2010/04/29/messenger-across-the-web.aspx"&gt;Messenger
across the Web&lt;/a&gt; on the Inside Windows Live blog. Key excerpts from his blog post
include 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Earlier today, John Richards and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.anguslogan.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Angus
Logan&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; took the stage at The &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://thenextweb.com/conference/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Next
Web Conference in Amsterdam&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; where they announced Messenger Connect –
a new way for partners and developers to connect with Messenger. Messenger Connect
allows web, Windows and mobile app developers to create compelling social experiences
on their websites and apps by providing them with social promotion and distribution
via Messenger.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;… &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;h3&gt;&lt;em&gt;Messenger Connect&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Messenger Connect brings the individual APIs we’ve had for a long time (Windows
Live ID, Contacts API, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd570035.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Messenger
Web Toolkit&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, etc.) together in a single API that's based on industry
standards and specifications (&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://wiki.oauth.net/OAuth-WRAP"&gt;&lt;em&gt;OAuth
WRAP&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://ActivityStrea.ms"&gt;&lt;em&gt;ActivityStrea.ms&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.portablecontacts.net"&gt;&lt;em&gt;PortableContacts&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;)
and adds a number of new scenarios. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The new Messenger Connect provides our developer partners with three big things: &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Instantly create a user profile and social graph:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;Messenger
user profile and social graph information allows our shared customers to easily sign-in
and access their friends list and profile information. This allows our partners to
more rapidly personalize their experiences, provides a ready-made social graph for
customers to interact with, and provides a channel to easily invite additional friends
to join in. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Drive engagement directly through chat indirectly through social distribution:&lt;/u&gt; By
enabling both real-time instant messaging conversations (chat) and feed-based sharing
options for customers on their site, developers can drive additional engagement and
usage of their experiences by connecting to the over 320 million Messenger customers
worldwide. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Designing for easy integration in your technical environment:&lt;/u&gt; We are delivering
an API service that will expose a RESTful interface, and we’ll wrap those in a range
of libraries (including JavaScript, .NET, and others). Websites and apps will be able
to choose the right integration type for their specific scenario. Some websites prefer
to keep everything at the presentation tier, and use JavaScript libraries when the
user is present. Others may prefer to do server-side integration, so they can call
the RESTful endpoints from back-end processes. We're aiming to provide the same set
of capabilities across the API service and the libraries that we offer.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I’m really proud of the work that’s gone into building Messenger Connect. Although
I was in some of the early discussions around it, I ducked out early to focus on the
platform behind &lt;a href="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8-3NXZ5cmIMOkWe2cej88un_XE5zP4vNs6KOiKDb-PUnaupAT1IYI1CZ62FdpGtqE0LbPbzpCHy9-4aIFRiSPw/MainMessengerWindow.png"&gt;the
new social view in Messenger&lt;/a&gt; and didn’t have much insight into the day to day
of building the product. However I’ve got to say I love the way the project has turned
out. I suspect a lot of web developers will as well. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kudos to Ori and the rest of the team. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Ludacris&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Ludacris&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Ludacris+My+Chick+Bad&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;My
Chick Bad (featuring Nicki Minaj)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
Over on the Inside Windows Live blog there’s a new post titled <a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowslive/archive/2010/04/28/preview-of-the-new-windows-live-messenger.aspx">Preview
of the new Windows Live Messenger</a> which talks about a key part of what I’ve been
working on over the past year or so. Interesting tidbits from the blog post include 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Today in a speech at the Universidade de São Paulo in Brazil, </em>
            <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/steve/">
              <em>Steve
Ballmer</em>
            </a>
            <em> is sharing a </em>
            <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowslive/default.mspx">
              <em>preview
of the new Windows Live Messenger</em>
            </a>
            <em>. In this post we want to talk more
about our philosophy and approach for this new version.</em>
            <br />
... 
<br /></p>
          <h5>
            <em>Staying in touch with close friends </em>
          </h5>
          <p>
            <em>Most people today visit at least one social network and dozens of content sharing
sites, get email with photos and social notifications, and of course, maintain accounts
in numerous places with different sets of friends and content. So we focused on connecting
Messenger to the social networks you already use, and prioritizing the most important
updates so you can quickly see what your favorite people are doing, wherever they’re
doing it.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>We know your close friends share using email, IM, and social networks. So we brought
all of those together into a single view. The status from your Facebook friends who
don’t use Messenger? Check. The photos your mom sent you as plain old e-mail attachments?
Check. The Office docs you’re collaborating on with friends in SkyDrive? Check. And
the stuff your favorite Messenger friends are doing on hundreds of sites they choose
to share from? Check. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>And since simple “aggregation” can make things worse instead of better, <font style="background-color: #ffff00">we
focused on prioritizing the people that matter most to you, so you don’t miss the
handful of important updates from your closest friends and family just because your
college and work “friends” are broadcasting their whole life every minute of the day.
Just tag your favorite people, and we optimize your feed for the stuff those people
are doing.</font> Of course, it’s not 100% exclusive to your favorites – the most
interesting things from your other friends like photos, videos, and links (especially
the ones being commented on a lot) are there too. This makes us a great companion
to the services you already love like Facebook, Flickr, MySpace, LinkedIn and more
– and when you have time to go beyond those most important updates, diving deeper
into those sites is just a click away. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Lastly, we recognized that we could connect your social updates to the power of
the Windows PC and really bring it to life. So we took advantage of the latest advances
in hardware and graphics to give you a modern social experience. This means that Messenger
brings beautiful high-resolution views of the photos, videos, and links that your
friends are sharing, right to your desktop. View their Facebook albums, gorgeously
presented so that they're fun to browse through and easy to comment on. Messenger
is also the simplest way to update your status and instantly post it to other sharing
sites you use. You can even bring your photo albums right into high-definition video
chats with your friends. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Here’s a picture of the new social view for Messenger:</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8-3NXZ5cmIMOkWe2cej88un_XE5zP4vNs6KOiKDb-PUnaupAT1IYI1CZ62FdpGtqE0LbPbzpCHy9-4aIFRiSPw/MainMessengerWindow.png">
              <em>
                <img title="Picture of the new social view of the main Messenger window" alt="Picture of the new social view of the main Messenger window" src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p7DZhUlQtB85bDIDMhHJhOsZlCiM0UmdI-BfI7b5pv6EpViluB2Reb8zCmFHshFjPVr_PPB5UPMz2irSpJhbpWA/MainMessengerWindow_small.png" />
              </em>
            </a>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
This is a pretty exciting day for the team and I’ll be scouring the web looking to
read what people think about what we’re building. If you want to learn more about
the new version of Messenger, you can visit <a href="http://www.messengerpreview.com">messengerpreview.com</a> 
</p>
        <p>
Later in the year, I’ll see what I can do about writing a post on the Inside Windows
Live blog about the philosophy and technology that underlies this experience. Let
me know in the comments what you would like to learn more about in such a post.  
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=DJ+Khalid&amp;field-title=Stolen&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">DJ
Khalid</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=DJ+Khalid+All+I+Do+Is+Win&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">All
I Do Is Win (featuring Ludacris, Snoop Dogg, Rick Ross, and T-Pain)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>A preview of the next version of Windows Live Messenger</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:47:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Over on the Inside Windows Live blog there’s a new post titled &lt;a href="http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowslive/archive/2010/04/28/preview-of-the-new-windows-live-messenger.aspx"&gt;Preview
of the new Windows Live Messenger&lt;/a&gt; which talks about a key part of what I’ve been
working on over the past year or so. Interesting tidbits from the blog post include 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Today in a speech at the Universidade de São Paulo in Brazil, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/steve/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve
Ballmer&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; is sharing a &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowslive/default.mspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;preview
of the new Windows Live Messenger&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. In this post we want to talk more
about our philosophy and approach for this new version.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
... 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;em&gt;Staying in touch with close friends &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Most people today visit at least one social network and dozens of content sharing
sites, get email with photos and social notifications, and of course, maintain accounts
in numerous places with different sets of friends and content. So we focused on connecting
Messenger to the social networks you already use, and prioritizing the most important
updates so you can quickly see what your favorite people are doing, wherever they’re
doing it.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;We know your close friends share using email, IM, and social networks. So we brought
all of those together into a single view. The status from your Facebook friends who
don’t use Messenger? Check. The photos your mom sent you as plain old e-mail attachments?
Check. The Office docs you’re collaborating on with friends in SkyDrive? Check. And
the stuff your favorite Messenger friends are doing on hundreds of sites they choose
to share from? Check. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;And since simple “aggregation” can make things worse instead of better, &lt;font style="background-color: #ffff00"&gt;we
focused on prioritizing the people that matter most to you, so you don’t miss the
handful of important updates from your closest friends and family just because your
college and work “friends” are broadcasting their whole life every minute of the day.
Just tag your favorite people, and we optimize your feed for the stuff those people
are doing.&lt;/font&gt; Of course, it’s not 100% exclusive to your favorites – the most
interesting things from your other friends like photos, videos, and links (especially
the ones being commented on a lot) are there too. This makes us a great companion
to the services you already love like Facebook, Flickr, MySpace, LinkedIn and more
– and when you have time to go beyond those most important updates, diving deeper
into those sites is just a click away. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Lastly, we recognized that we could connect your social updates to the power of
the Windows PC and really bring it to life. So we took advantage of the latest advances
in hardware and graphics to give you a modern social experience. This means that Messenger
brings beautiful high-resolution views of the photos, videos, and links that your
friends are sharing, right to your desktop. View their Facebook albums, gorgeously
presented so that they're fun to browse through and easy to comment on. Messenger
is also the simplest way to update your status and instantly post it to other sharing
sites you use. You can even bring your photo albums right into high-definition video
chats with your friends. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Here’s a picture of the new social view for Messenger:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8-3NXZ5cmIMOkWe2cej88un_XE5zP4vNs6KOiKDb-PUnaupAT1IYI1CZ62FdpGtqE0LbPbzpCHy9-4aIFRiSPw/MainMessengerWindow.png"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="Picture of the new social view of the main Messenger window" alt="Picture of the new social view of the main Messenger window" src="http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p7DZhUlQtB85bDIDMhHJhOsZlCiM0UmdI-BfI7b5pv6EpViluB2Reb8zCmFHshFjPVr_PPB5UPMz2irSpJhbpWA/MainMessengerWindow_small.png" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
This is a pretty exciting day for the team and I’ll be scouring the web looking to
read what people think about what we’re building. If you want to learn more about
the new version of Messenger, you can visit &lt;a href="http://www.messengerpreview.com"&gt;messengerpreview.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Later in the year, I’ll see what I can do about writing a post on the Inside Windows
Live blog about the philosophy and technology that underlies this experience. Let
me know in the comments what you would like to learn more about in such a post.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=DJ+Khalid&amp;amp;field-title=Stolen&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;DJ
Khalid&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=DJ+Khalid+All+I+Do+Is+Win&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;All
I Do Is Win (featuring Ludacris, Snoop Dogg, Rick Ross, and T-Pain)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/images/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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        <p>
On the MSN blog there's a new blog post entitled <a href="http://msnblog.msn.com/blogpost.aspx?post=1351217">The
New MSN Homepage Unveiled</a> which states
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Today is an exciting day for our team at MSN because we unveiled the </em>
            <a href="http://preview.msn.com/">
              <em>most
significant redesign</em>
            </a>
            <em> our MSN.com homepage has seen in over a decade.
We spent thousands of hours talking with customers; testing hundreds of ideas; experimenting
around the world and carefully evaluating what our users want, and don’t want - to
deliver a homepage that is designed to be the best homepage on the Web. We hope you’ll
agree.</em>
            <br />
… 
<br /><em>So, we started from scratch to cut the clutter on our homepage and reduced the
amount of links by 50%. There’s also a simplified navigation across news, entertainment,
sports, money, and lifestyle that lets you drill into information topics that interest
you, without being overwhelming. Local information from your neighborhood is important
to you and so is high quality, in-line video – so we offer both, right on the homepage.
And, you told us you want the latest information not only from your favorite sources,
but also from your friends, and the breadth of the Web – so we now offer convenient
access to Facebook, Twitter, &amp; Windows Live services and the most powerful search
experience on the Web from Bing, empowering you to make more informed, faster decisions.
And this is just the beginning - keep visiting our blog for more MSN news in the coming
weeks.</em></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
This is a really exciting release for my team on Windows Live since we're responsible
for the underlying platform that powers the display of what activities your friends
have been performing across Windows Live. Working with the MSN home page team was
a good experience and its great to see that the <a href="http://advertising.microsoft.com/msn-home-page?S_INT=ticker_MSNHomePage">tens
of millions of people who visit the MSN home page regularly</a> will now get to experience
our work. Kudos to the MSN team on a very nice release. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pVpmCTnwDm5C8AjDQ8KtTcOAEXU1LOzPEvXjgfkoOkFqWu9r9vu8X1Zu5OlFoyVsCY8qIJ3wUGWLsl1YF3CRfYQ/MSN%20homepage.PNG" width="629" height="572" />
        </p>
        <p>
You can try out the new home page for yourself at <a href="http://preview.msn.com">http://preview.msn.com</a></p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Jay-Z&amp;field-title=Stolen&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Jay-Z</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Jay-Z+Reminder&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Reminder</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>New MSN Homepage with Activity Streams from Windows Live, Facebook and Twitter</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:10:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
On the MSN blog there's a new blog post entitled &lt;a href="http://msnblog.msn.com/blogpost.aspx?post=1351217"&gt;The
New MSN Homepage Unveiled&lt;/a&gt; which states
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Today is an exciting day for our team at MSN because we unveiled the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://preview.msn.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;most
significant redesign&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; our MSN.com homepage has seen in over a decade.
We spent thousands of hours talking with customers; testing hundreds of ideas; experimenting
around the world and carefully evaluating what our users want, and don’t want - to
deliver a homepage that is designed to be the best homepage on the Web. We hope you’ll
agree.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;br /&gt;
… 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;So, we started from scratch to cut the clutter on our homepage and reduced the
amount of links by 50%. There’s also a simplified navigation across news, entertainment,
sports, money, and lifestyle that lets you drill into information topics that interest
you, without being overwhelming. Local information from your neighborhood is important
to you and so is high quality, in-line video – so we offer both, right on the homepage.
And, you told us you want the latest information not only from your favorite sources,
but also from your friends, and the breadth of the Web – so we now offer convenient
access to Facebook, Twitter, &amp;amp; Windows Live services and the most powerful search
experience on the Web from Bing, empowering you to make more informed, faster decisions.
And this is just the beginning - keep visiting our blog for more MSN news in the coming
weeks.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
This is a really exciting release for my team on Windows Live since we're responsible
for the underlying platform that powers the display of what activities your friends
have been performing across Windows Live. Working with the MSN home page team was
a good experience and its great to see that the &lt;a href="http://advertising.microsoft.com/msn-home-page?S_INT=ticker_MSNHomePage"&gt;tens
of millions of people who visit the MSN home page regularly&lt;/a&gt; will now get to experience
our work. Kudos to the MSN team on a very nice release. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pVpmCTnwDm5C8AjDQ8KtTcOAEXU1LOzPEvXjgfkoOkFqWu9r9vu8X1Zu5OlFoyVsCY8qIJ3wUGWLsl1YF3CRfYQ/MSN%20homepage.PNG" width="629" height="572" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
You can try out the new home page for yourself at &lt;a href="http://preview.msn.com"&gt;http://preview.msn.com&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Jay-Z&amp;amp;field-title=Stolen&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Jay-Z&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Jay-Z+Reminder&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Reminder&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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        <p>
          <em>I’ve been busy with work and spending time with my son so I haven’t been as diligent
as I should be with the blog. Until my time management skills get better, here are
some thoughts from a guest post I wrote recently for the <a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2009/04/21/486.aspx">Live
Services blog</a>. </em>
        </p>
        <p>
Dare Obasanjo here, from the Live Services Program Management team. I'd like to talk
a bit about the work we are doing to increase interoperability across the "Social
Web." 
</p>
        <p>
The term <a href="http://davemorin.tumblr.com/post/97260316/the-social-web">The Social
Web</a> has been increasingly used to describe the rise of the Web as a way for people
to interact, communicate and share with each other using the World Wide Web. Experiences
that were once solitary such as reading news or browsing one's photo albums have now
been made more social by sites such as <a href="http://www.digg.com">Digg</a> and <a href="http://www.flickr.com">Flickr</a>.
With so many Web sites offering social functionality, it has become increasingly important
for people to be able to not only be able to connect and share with their friends
on a single Web site but also to take these relationships and activities with them
wherever they go on the Web. 
</p>
        <p>
With the recent update to Windows Live, we are continuing with the vision of enabling
our 500 million customers to share and connect with the people they care about regardless
of what services they use. Our customers can now invite their contacts from <a href="http://www.myspace.com">MySpace</a> (the
largest U.S. social networking site) and <a href="http://www.hi5.com">Hi5</a> to join
them on Windows Live in a safe manner without having to resort to using the <a href="http://adactio.com/journal/1357">the
password anti-pattern</a>. These sites join <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com">LinkedIn</a> as
social networks from which people can import their social graph or friend list into
Windows Live.
</p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image.png">
            <img title="image" border="0" alt="image" src="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_thumb.png" width="491" height="156" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
In addition to interoperating with social networks to bridge relationships across
the Web, we are also always working on enabling customers to share the content they
are find interesting or activities they are participating in from all over the Web
with their friends who use Windows Live services like <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">Hotmail</a> and <a href="http://messenger.live.com">Messenger</a>.
Customers of Windows Live can now <a href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/">add
activities from over thirty different online services</a> to their Windows Live profile
including social networking sites like <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a>,
photo sharing sites like <a href="http://smugmug.com">Smugmug</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.photobucket.com">Photobucket</a>,
social music sites like <a href="http://last.fm">last.fm</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.pandora.com">Pandora</a>,
social bookmarking sites like <a href="http://www.digg.com">Digg</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com">Stumbleupon</a> and
much more. 
</p>
        <p>
We are also happy to announce today that in the coming months, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace </a>customers
will be able to share activities and updates from MySpace with their Windows Live
network. 
</p>
        <p>
Below is a screenshot of some of the updates you might find on <a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com/">my
profile on Windows Live</a> 
</p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_3.png">
            <img title="image" alt="image" src="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_3.png" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
These recent announcements bring us one step closer to a Social Web where interoperability
is the norm instead of the exception. One of the most exciting things about our recent
release is how much of the behind-the-scene integration is done using community driven
technologies such as the <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287">Atom syndication
format</a>, <a href="http://activitystrea.ms">Atom Activity Extensions</a>, <a href="http://oauth.net/">OAuth</a>,
and <a href="http://portablecontacts.net/">Portable Contacts</a>. These community
driven technologies are moving to ensure that the Social Web is a web of interconnected
and interoperable web sites, not a set of competing walled gardens desperately clutching
to customer data in an attempt to invent Lock-In 2.0  
</p>
        <p>
As we look towards the future, I believe that the aforementioned standards around
contact exchange, social activity streams and authorization are just the first steps.
When we look at all the capabilities across the Web landscape it is clear that there
are scenarios that are still completely broken due to lack of interoperability across
various social websites. You can expect more from Windows Live when it comes to interoperability
and the Social Web. 
</p>
        <p>
Just watch this space. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Eminem&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Eminem</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Eminem+We Made You&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">We
Made You</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Repost: The Social Web and Windows Live</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:04:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I’ve been busy with work and spending time with my son so I haven’t been as diligent
as I should be with the blog. Until my time management skills get better, here are
some thoughts from a guest post I wrote recently for the &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2009/04/21/486.aspx"&gt;Live
Services blog&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dare Obasanjo here, from the Live Services Program Management team. I'd like to talk
a bit about the work we are doing to increase interoperability across the &amp;quot;Social
Web.&amp;quot; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The term &lt;a href="http://davemorin.tumblr.com/post/97260316/the-social-web"&gt;The Social
Web&lt;/a&gt; has been increasingly used to describe the rise of the Web as a way for people
to interact, communicate and share with each other using the World Wide Web. Experiences
that were once solitary such as reading news or browsing one's photo albums have now
been made more social by sites such as &lt;a href="http://www.digg.com"&gt;Digg&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com"&gt;Flickr&lt;/a&gt;.
With so many Web sites offering social functionality, it has become increasingly important
for people to be able to not only be able to connect and share with their friends
on a single Web site but also to take these relationships and activities with them
wherever they go on the Web. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With the recent update to Windows Live, we are continuing with the vision of enabling
our 500 million customers to share and connect with the people they care about regardless
of what services they use. Our customers can now invite their contacts from &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com"&gt;MySpace&lt;/a&gt; (the
largest U.S. social networking site) and &lt;a href="http://www.hi5.com"&gt;Hi5&lt;/a&gt; to join
them on Windows Live in a safe manner without having to resort to using the &lt;a href="http://adactio.com/journal/1357"&gt;the
password anti-pattern&lt;/a&gt;. These sites join &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.linkedin.com"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt; as
social networks from which people can import their social graph or friend list into
Windows Live.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image.png"&gt;&lt;img title="image" border="0" alt="image" src="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_thumb.png" width="491" height="156" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In addition to interoperating with social networks to bridge relationships across
the Web, we are also always working on enabling customers to share the content they
are find interesting or activities they are participating in from all over the Web
with their friends who use Windows Live services like &lt;a href="http://www.hotmail.com"&gt;Hotmail&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://messenger.live.com"&gt;Messenger&lt;/a&gt;.
Customers of Windows Live can now &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/"&gt;add
activities from over thirty different online services&lt;/a&gt; to their Windows Live profile
including social networking sites like &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;,
photo sharing sites like &lt;a href="http://smugmug.com"&gt;Smugmug&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.photobucket.com"&gt;Photobucket&lt;/a&gt;,
social music sites like &lt;a href="http://last.fm"&gt;last.fm&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.pandora.com"&gt;Pandora&lt;/a&gt;,
social bookmarking sites like &lt;a href="http://www.digg.com"&gt;Digg&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com"&gt;Stumbleupon&lt;/a&gt; and
much more. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
We are also happy to announce today that in the coming months, &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/"&gt;MySpace &lt;/a&gt;customers
will be able to share activities and updates from MySpace with their Windows Live
network. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Below is a screenshot of some of the updates you might find on &lt;a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com/"&gt;my
profile on Windows Live&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_3.png"&gt;&lt;img title="image" alt="image" src="http://dev.live.com/img/InteroperabilitytheSocialWebandWindowsLi_10202/image_3.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
These recent announcements bring us one step closer to a Social Web where interoperability
is the norm instead of the exception. One of the most exciting things about our recent
release is how much of the behind-the-scene integration is done using community driven
technologies such as the &lt;a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287"&gt;Atom syndication
format&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://activitystrea.ms"&gt;Atom Activity Extensions&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://oauth.net/"&gt;OAuth&lt;/a&gt;,
and &lt;a href="http://portablecontacts.net/"&gt;Portable Contacts&lt;/a&gt;. These community
driven technologies are moving to ensure that the Social Web is a web of interconnected
and interoperable web sites, not a set of competing walled gardens desperately clutching
to customer data in an attempt to invent Lock-In 2.0&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As we look towards the future, I believe that the aforementioned standards around
contact exchange, social activity streams and authorization are just the first steps.
When we look at all the capabilities across the Web landscape it is clear that there
are scenarios that are still completely broken due to lack of interoperability across
various social websites. You can expect more from Windows Live when it comes to interoperability
and the Social Web. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Just watch this space. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Eminem&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Eminem&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Eminem+We Made You&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;We
Made You&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <title>I'm a PC and I'm 4 and a half</title>
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      <link>http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2009/02/09/ImAPCAndIm4AndAHalf.aspx</link>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:03:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;embed src="http://images.video.msn.com/flash/soapbox1_1.swf" width="432" height="364" id="b6ieutnd" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" pluginspage="http://macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="c=v&amp;v=533e05d2-9f12-4a86-bdda-efd0455fcd36&amp;ifs=true&amp;fr=shared"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;
&lt;noembed&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.msn.com/?playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:533e05d2-9f12-4a86-bdda-efd0455fcd36&amp;amp;showPlaylist=true" target="_new" title="Kylie uses Windows Live Photo Gallery"&gt;Video:
Kylie uses Windows Live Photo Gallery&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/noembed&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Cranberries&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Cranberries&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Cranberries+Linger&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Linger&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
From the blog post on the Office Live team blog entitled <a href="http://officeliveworkspacecommunity.com/blogs/teamblog/archive/2009/01/23/looking-ahead-and-bringing-you-even-more.aspx">Looking
ahead and bringing you even more</a> we learn
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Today, I wanted to share with you some exciting news about Office Live: To simplify
and improve the customer experience around our Live services, we’ve made the decision
to converge Windows Live and Office Live into an integrated set of services at one
single destination. We think that just makes a ton of sense and goes a long way toward
giving you a simpler, richer, better service that allows you to do more with one account. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Every day, more and more people are signing up for </em>
            <a href="http://workspace.officelive.com/">
              <em>Office
Live Workspace</em>
            </a>
            <em> and </em>
            <a href="http://smallbusiness.officelive.com/">
              <em>Office
Live Small Business</em>
            </a>
            <em> (4 million of you so far!), as well as </em>
            <a href="http://home.live.com/?showunauth=1&amp;mcid=WLWave3Intro">
              <em>Windows
Live</em>
            </a>
            <em> (460 million to date!).</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Secondly there’s the MSDN forum post entitled <a href="http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMesh/thread/b6fb5d7b-c69a-405f-9e0d-bcf0052a3174">Working
Together: Live Mesh and Windows Live</a> by the Live Mesh team which informs us that 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt">
            <i>
              <font style="font-size: 12px">For some time now, many of you have expressed interest
in seeing some sort of combination of Live Mesh and other Microsoft services. In order
to further explore these ideas we would like to ask you to share with us the scenario(s)
that you have in mind.  </font>
            </i>
          </p>
          <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt">
            <i>
              <font style="font-size: 12px">What combination(s) are you interested in, and why?
Whatever your interests, whatever problem you’re trying to solve or scenario you want
to enable, we’d like to hear the details – and the more specific you can be, the better.</font>
            </i>
          </p>
          <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt">
            <i>
              <font style="font-size: 12px">We know you have ideas – this is the place to share
them!</font>
            </i>
          </p>
          <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt">
            <i>
              <font style="font-size: 12px">Thank you,</font>
            </i>
          </p>
          <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt">
            <i>
              <font style="font-size: 12px">The Live Mesh Team</font>
            </i>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
I love it when things come together this way. There's been a lot of choice in Web-based
storage solutions offered by Microsoft and some would argue that it's been <a title="New Synchronisation Idea Overlooked By Microsoft Live team" href="http://www.secretgeek.net/sync_live.asp">too
much</a> <a title="Windows Live Sync vs. Live Mesh vs. SkyDrive: Which is Right for You?" href="http://www.labnol.org/internet/compare-windows-live-sync-mesh-and-skydrive/6166/">choice</a>.
It will be good to how the cross pollination of ideas ends up working out between
these various products over the coming months and years. 
</p>
        <p>
If you are interested in developer or end user scenarios around Web-based storage
I recommend chiming in on the MSDN forum post linked above. It's your chance to give
your feedback to Microsoft and help influence the direction of the <a title="C|Net: Microsoft's Live Mesh top innovation at the Crunchies" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10139597-75.html">most
innovative technology product of the past year</a>.  
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Amy%20Winehouse&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Amy
Winehouse</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Amy%20Winehouse+You%20Know%20I%27m%20No%20Good&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">You
Know I'm No Good</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Office Live Workspaces, Live Mesh and Windows Live Coming Together</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
From the blog post on the Office Live team blog entitled &lt;a href="http://officeliveworkspacecommunity.com/blogs/teamblog/archive/2009/01/23/looking-ahead-and-bringing-you-even-more.aspx"&gt;Looking
ahead and bringing you even more&lt;/a&gt; we learn
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Today, I wanted to share with you some exciting news about Office Live: To simplify
and improve the customer experience around our Live services, we’ve made the decision
to converge Windows Live and Office Live into an integrated set of services at one
single destination. We think that just makes a ton of sense and goes a long way toward
giving you a simpler, richer, better service that allows you to do more with one account. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Every day, more and more people are signing up for &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://workspace.officelive.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Office
Live Workspace&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://smallbusiness.officelive.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Office
Live Small Business&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; (4 million of you so far!), as well as &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.live.com/?showunauth=1&amp;amp;mcid=WLWave3Intro"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows
Live&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; (460 million to date!).&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Secondly there’s the MSDN forum post entitled &lt;a href="http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMesh/thread/b6fb5d7b-c69a-405f-9e0d-bcf0052a3174"&gt;Working
Together: Live Mesh and Windows Live&lt;/a&gt; by the Live Mesh team which informs us that 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 12px"&gt;For some time now, many of you have expressed interest
in seeing some sort of combination of Live Mesh and other Microsoft services. In order
to further explore these ideas we would like to ask you to share with us the scenario(s)
that you have in mind.&amp;#160; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 12px"&gt;What combination(s) are you interested in, and why?
Whatever your interests, whatever problem you’re trying to solve or scenario you want
to enable, we’d like to hear the details – and the more specific you can be, the better.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 12px"&gt;We know you have ideas – this is the place to share
them!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 12px"&gt;Thank you,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;font style="font-size: 12px"&gt;The Live Mesh Team&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I love it when things come together this way. There's been a lot of choice in Web-based
storage solutions offered by Microsoft and some would argue that it's been &lt;a title="New Synchronisation Idea Overlooked By Microsoft Live team" href="http://www.secretgeek.net/sync_live.asp"&gt;too
much&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;a title="Windows Live Sync vs. Live Mesh vs. SkyDrive: Which is Right for You?" href="http://www.labnol.org/internet/compare-windows-live-sync-mesh-and-skydrive/6166/"&gt;choice&lt;/a&gt;.
It will be good to how the cross pollination of ideas ends up working out between
these various products over the coming months and years. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If you are interested in developer or end user scenarios around Web-based storage
I recommend chiming in on the MSDN forum post linked above. It's your chance to give
your feedback to Microsoft and help influence the direction of the &lt;a title="C|Net: Microsoft&amp;#39;s Live Mesh top innovation at the Crunchies" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10139597-75.html"&gt;most
innovative technology product of the past year&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Amy%20Winehouse&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Amy
Winehouse&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Amy%20Winehouse+You%20Know%20I%27m%20No%20Good&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;You
Know I'm No Good&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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Angus Logan has <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/angus_logan/archive/2009/01/10/live-mesh-awarded-best-technology-innovation-achievement-crunchie.aspx">the
scoop</a></p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>I’m in San Francisco at the </em>
            <a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/">
              <em>2008
Crunchie Awards</em>
            </a>
            <em> and after ~ 350k </em>
            <a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/vote">
              <em>votes</em>
            </a>
            <em> were
cast </em>
            <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/ozzie/default.aspx">
              <em>Ray
Ozzie</em>
            </a>
            <em> and </em>
            <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/treadwell/default.aspx">
              <em>David
Treadwell</em>
            </a>
            <em> accepted the award for Best Technology Innovation/Achievement
on behalf of the </em>
            <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/livemesh">
              <em>Live Mesh team</em>
            </a>
            <em>. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/angus_logan/WindowsLiveWriter/LiveMeshAwardedBestTechnologyInnovationA_119E1/DSC_0007.jpg">
              <em>
                <img title="DSC_0007" alt="DSC_0007" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/angus_logan/WindowsLiveWriter/LiveMeshAwardedBestTechnologyInnovationA_119E1/DSC_0007_thumb.jpg" width="257" align="right" border="0" height="173" />
              </em>
            </a>
            <em>The </em>
            <a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/vote">
              <em>Crunchies</em>
            </a>
            <em> are
an annual competition co-hosted by </em>
            <a href="http://gigaom.com">
              <em>GigaOm</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://venturebeat.com">
              <em>VentureBeat</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://alleyinsider.com">
              <em>Silicon
Alley Insider</em>
            </a>
            <em>, and </em>
            <a href="http://techcrunch.com">
              <em>TechCrunch</em>
            </a>
            <em> which
culminates in an award the most compelling startup, internet and technology innovations.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Kudos to the Live Mesh folks on getting this award. I can't wait to see what 2009
brings for this product. 
</p>
        <p>
PS: I noticed from the TechCrunch post that <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/10/congratulations-to-the-crunchies-winners-facebook-takes-top-prize-for-second-year/">Facebook
Connect was the runner up</a>. I have to give an extra special shout out to my friend <a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Vernal/9074">Mike</a> for
being a key figure behind two of the most innovative technology products of 2008.
Nice work man. 
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Angus Logan has &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/angus_logan/archive/2009/01/10/live-mesh-awarded-best-technology-innovation-achievement-crunchie.aspx"&gt;the
scoop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I’m in San Francisco at the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;2008
Crunchie Awards&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and after ~ 350k &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/vote"&gt;&lt;em&gt;votes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; were
cast &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/ozzie/default.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ray
Ozzie&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/treadwell/default.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;David
Treadwell&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; accepted the award for Best Technology Innovation/Achievement
on behalf of the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/livemesh"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Live Mesh team&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/angus_logan/WindowsLiveWriter/LiveMeshAwardedBestTechnologyInnovationA_119E1/DSC_0007.jpg"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="DSC_0007" alt="DSC_0007" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/angus_logan/WindowsLiveWriter/LiveMeshAwardedBestTechnologyInnovationA_119E1/DSC_0007_thumb.jpg" width="257" align="right" border="0" height="173"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;The &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://crunchies2008.techcrunch.com/vote"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Crunchies&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; are
an annual competition co-hosted by &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://gigaom.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;GigaOm&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://venturebeat.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;VentureBeat&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://alleyinsider.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Silicon
Alley Insider&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://techcrunch.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;TechCrunch&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; which
culminates in an award the most compelling startup, internet and technology innovations.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Kudos to the Live Mesh folks on getting this award. I can't wait to see what 2009
brings for this product. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
PS: I noticed from the TechCrunch post that &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/10/congratulations-to-the-crunchies-winners-facebook-takes-top-prize-for-second-year/"&gt;Facebook
Connect was the runner up&lt;/a&gt;. I have to give an extra special shout out to my friend &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Vernal/9074"&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt; for
being a key figure behind two of the most innovative technology products of 2008.
Nice work man. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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Since we released the latest version of the Windows Live what's new feed which shows
what's been going on with your social network at <a href="http://home.live.com">http://home.live.com</a>,
we've gotten repeated asks to provide a Windows Vista gadget so people can keep up
with their social circle directly from their desktop. 
</p>
        <p>
You asked, and now we've delivered. Get it from <a href="http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=3081b131-f87e-46e1-b35a-c50ba01c5100&amp;pl=1&amp;bt=1">here</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbqE1aFcIHBAPjKQjWeT5fEVnKw7H41fI8daH5rXxAaIPcMis2wWtn1FS3aBfXX4PWIW6fT2F098/whatsnewgadget.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
What I love most about this gadget is that a huge chunk of the work to get this out
the door was done by our summer interns from 2008. I love how interns can be around
for a short time but provide a ton of bang for the buck while they are here. Hope
you enjoy the gadget as much as I have. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Akon, Lil Wayne &amp; Young Jeezy&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Akon,
Lil Wayne &amp; Young Jeezy</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Akon, Lil Wayne &amp; Young Jeezy+I'm So Paid&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">I'm
So Paid</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Windows Live What's New Sidebar Gadget (beta) now available</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:46:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Since we released the latest version of the Windows Live what's new feed which shows
what's been going on with your social network at &lt;a href="http://home.live.com"&gt;http://home.live.com&lt;/a&gt;,
we've gotten repeated asks to provide a Windows Vista gadget so people can keep up
with their social circle directly from their desktop. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
You asked, and now we've delivered. Get it from &lt;a href="http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=3081b131-f87e-46e1-b35a-c50ba01c5100&amp;amp;pl=1&amp;amp;bt=1"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbqE1aFcIHBAPjKQjWeT5fEVnKw7H41fI8daH5rXxAaIPcMis2wWtn1FS3aBfXX4PWIW6fT2F098/whatsnewgadget.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
What I love most about this gadget is that a huge chunk of the work to get this out
the door was done by our summer interns from 2008. I love how interns can be around
for a short time but provide a ton of bang for the buck while they are here. Hope
you enjoy the gadget as much as I have. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Akon, Lil Wayne &amp;amp; Young Jeezy&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Akon,
Lil Wayne &amp;amp; Young Jeezy&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Akon, Lil Wayne &amp;amp; Young Jeezy+I'm So Paid&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;I'm
So Paid&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
One of the features we recently shipped in Windows Live is the ability to link your
Windows Live profile to your Flickr account so that whenever you add photos to Flickr
they show up on your profile and in the What's New list of members of your network
in Windows Live. Below are the steps to adding your Flickr photos to your Windows
Live profile. 
</p>
        <p>
1. Go to your Windows Live profile at <a href="http://profile.live.com">http://profile.live.com</a> and
locate the link to your Web Activities on the bottom left 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pXKfulHPgQ-PlkoBan46fJ5ehvCNiNQO0ugOATt_DjFs1x1Fb6UIjeeOxCExWAx1FUusji6B1ZwA/add-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="445" />
        </p>
        <p>
2. Click the link to add Web Activities which should take you to <a title="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/" href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/">http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/</a> shown
below. Locate Flickr on that page. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjTGDXETTYzuHly5qwvoByKtIRNupH7S05jiUqRgDK4KbXwE7JfLMqhd4UeJP30y45JwvV_o-RDg/manage-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="557" height="480" />
        </p>
        <p>
3.) Click on the "Add" link for Flickr which should take you to <a title="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531" href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531">http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531</a> shown
below 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnPR4Fo79j6hQoWTYtcTqcya3Mns8pVeXPU8ePkXBn_0bdmWM_XsjPgpn-PdaO3wCPV89RbgUXOY/add-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="418" />
        </p>
        <p>
4.) Click on the link to sign-in to Flickr. This should take you to the Flickr sign-in
page shown below (if you aren't signed in)
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pRIF3J3r5J2lOJDAYcT34TZCe4TgvOQLSKaa1BtP0Painy2RVr5Zyqm30Yp6d72qsQf84cHv4ppk/flickr-signin.jpg" width="621" height="464" />  
</p>
        <p>
5.) After signing in, you will need to grant Windows Live access to your Flickr photo
stream. Click the "OK I'll Allow It" button shown below 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnnl9_2eDJ70DMkaxpab7v65nxLRghxZdyfdNINhk7fWFOB-lWBmNyG5k7RlhvJAOgXzw_9Fi0JU/flickr-grant-access.jpg" width="627" height="480" />
        </p>
        <p>
6.) You should then be redirected to Windows Live where you can complete the final
step and link both accounts. In addition, you can decide who should able to view your
Flickr photos on your Windows Live profile as shown below 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pi1Ds9Px_VFzC48tDU-_AMP2FFRHIF0gnY8HMLrU5TFO3X8NjwcYprh_9fNliBHt9Kp8BNS99Uo4/add-flickr-webactivity2.jpg" />  
</p>
        <p>
7.) After pushing the "Add" button you should end up back on your profile
with your Flickr information now visible on it.
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pd0GArvlPt4iT_3uolqpj4XKaJGQr5RydoLic5_LOOmBjCos8X-v6nRwTFclsoZcUBBjYW6CH2PQ/added-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="437" />
        </p>
        <p>
A.) People in your network can now see your Flickr updates in various Windows Live
applications including Windows Live Messenger as shown below
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p_8c7KDHX0-WU4--tcTX-aas_IJgvnJTeiXOF7o65MaiUtGJNkzKFVcJdlvqEUyi_jjE4BxzZw0U/flickr in messenger.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
 
</p>
        <p>
PS: The same basic set of steps work for adding activities from <a href="http://www.twitter.com">Twitter</a>, <a href="http://www.pandora.com">Pandora</a>, <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com">StumbleUpon</a>, <a href="http://www.flixster.com">Flixster</a>, <a href="http://www.photobucket.com">PhotoBucket</a>, <a href="http://www.yelp.com">Yelp</a>, <a href="http://www.ilike.com">iLike</a>,
blogs hosted on <a href="http://www.wordpress.com">Wordpress.com</a>, or from any
RSS/Atom feed to your Windows Live profile. Based on announcements at CES yesterday,
you'll soon be able to <a title="Windows Live Wire: Windows Live Essentials is ready to download" href=" http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!31833.entry">add
your activities from Facebook to Windows Live</a> as well. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=DMX&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">DMX</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=DMX+Party Up (Up in Here)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Party
Up (Up in Here)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Windows Live Tip: How to Add your Flickr Photos to your Windows Live Profile</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:59:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
One of the features we recently shipped in Windows Live is the ability to link your
Windows Live profile to your Flickr account so that whenever you add photos to Flickr
they show up on your profile and in the What's New list of members of your network
in Windows Live. Below are the steps to adding your Flickr photos to your Windows
Live profile. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
1. Go to your Windows Live profile at &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com"&gt;http://profile.live.com&lt;/a&gt; and
locate the link to your Web Activities on the bottom left 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pXKfulHPgQ-PlkoBan46fJ5ehvCNiNQO0ugOATt_DjFs1x1Fb6UIjeeOxCExWAx1FUusji6B1ZwA/add-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="445" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
2. Click the link to add Web Activities which should take you to &lt;a title="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/" href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/"&gt;http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/&lt;/a&gt; shown
below. Locate Flickr on that page. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjTGDXETTYzuHly5qwvoByKtIRNupH7S05jiUqRgDK4KbXwE7JfLMqhd4UeJP30y45JwvV_o-RDg/manage-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="557" height="480" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
3.) Click on the &amp;quot;Add&amp;quot; link for Flickr which should take you to &lt;a title="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531" href="http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531"&gt;http://profile.live.com/WebActivities/Add.aspx?appid=1073750531&lt;/a&gt; shown
below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnPR4Fo79j6hQoWTYtcTqcya3Mns8pVeXPU8ePkXBn_0bdmWM_XsjPgpn-PdaO3wCPV89RbgUXOY/add-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="418" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
4.) Click on the link to sign-in to Flickr. This should take you to the Flickr sign-in
page shown below (if you aren't signed in)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pRIF3J3r5J2lOJDAYcT34TZCe4TgvOQLSKaa1BtP0Painy2RVr5Zyqm30Yp6d72qsQf84cHv4ppk/flickr-signin.jpg" width="621" height="464" /&gt;&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
5.) After signing in, you will need to grant Windows Live access to your Flickr photo
stream. Click the &amp;quot;OK I'll Allow It&amp;quot; button shown below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnnl9_2eDJ70DMkaxpab7v65nxLRghxZdyfdNINhk7fWFOB-lWBmNyG5k7RlhvJAOgXzw_9Fi0JU/flickr-grant-access.jpg" width="627" height="480" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
6.) You should then be redirected to Windows Live where you can complete the final
step and link both accounts. In addition, you can decide who should able to view your
Flickr photos on your Windows Live profile as shown below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pi1Ds9Px_VFzC48tDU-_AMP2FFRHIF0gnY8HMLrU5TFO3X8NjwcYprh_9fNliBHt9Kp8BNS99Uo4/add-flickr-webactivity2.jpg" /&gt;&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
7.) After pushing the &amp;quot;Add&amp;quot; button you should end up back on your profile
with your Flickr information now visible on it.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pd0GArvlPt4iT_3uolqpj4XKaJGQr5RydoLic5_LOOmBjCos8X-v6nRwTFclsoZcUBBjYW6CH2PQ/added-flickr-webactivity.jpg" width="640" height="437" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A.) People in your network can now see your Flickr updates in various Windows Live
applications including Windows Live Messenger as shown below
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p_8c7KDHX0-WU4--tcTX-aas_IJgvnJTeiXOF7o65MaiUtGJNkzKFVcJdlvqEUyi_jjE4BxzZw0U/flickr in messenger.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;#160;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
PS: The same basic set of steps work for adding activities from &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.pandora.com"&gt;Pandora&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com"&gt;StumbleUpon&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.flixster.com"&gt;Flixster&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.photobucket.com"&gt;PhotoBucket&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.yelp.com"&gt;Yelp&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.ilike.com"&gt;iLike&lt;/a&gt;,
blogs hosted on &lt;a href="http://www.wordpress.com"&gt;Wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;, or from any
RSS/Atom feed to your Windows Live profile. Based on announcements at CES yesterday,
you'll soon be able to &lt;a title="Windows Live Wire: Windows Live Essentials is ready to download" href=" http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!31833.entry"&gt;add
your activities from Facebook to Windows Live&lt;/a&gt; as well. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=DMX&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;DMX&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=DMX+Party Up (Up in Here)&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Party
Up (Up in Here)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
Reading depressing layoff related blog posts like George Oates's <a href="http://george08.blogspot.com/2008/12/not-quite-what-i-had-in-mind.html">Not
quite what I had in mind</a> and the Valley Wag's <a href="http://valleywag.com/5111818/laid+off-yahoos-packing-heat-for-jerry-yang">Laid-off
Yahoos packing heat for Jerry Yang?</a> reminded me that I've been meaning to post
about open positions on our team for a while. 
</p>
        <p>
The team I work for is responsible for the "social graph", "news feed"
and online presence platforms that power various Windows Live experiences. You can
see some of our recent efforts in action by downloading <a href="http://download.live.com">Windows
Live Essentials</a> (beta) or visiting <a target="_blank" href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com">my
profile on Windows Live</a> and browsing around. If you are interested in building
world class software that is used by <u>hundreds of millions of people</u> and the
following job descriptions interest you then send me your resume  
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <strong>
              <a href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=12654948-CF1D-47FE-9930-57837E335D0E">Software
Design Engineer (Developer)</a>
            </strong>
          </p>
          <p>
The Windows Live Messenger service is the backbone of one of world’s leading instant
messaging services. The service enables hundreds of millions of users to communicate
efficiently using text, voice, video and real-time status updates. This high-profile
business is growing to accommodate mobile devices, social networking, web applications
and other new areas. 
<br />
We are seeking a developer with a fondness and talent for working on large-scale fault-tolerant
distributed systems. The job involves working on the back-end components that maintain
user state and route messages and notifications. In addition to improving the systems
performance and resiliency, our team will tackle hard new problems such as 
<br />
- Supporting new ways of addressing users (personas or aliases) 
<br />
- Extending user state to support offline presence and presence views 
<br />
- Creating a generic notification service 
<br />
- implementing effective request throttling and load-balancing across datacenters.
</p>
          <p>
            <strong>
              <a href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=1CA00765-B7B0-4CEA-969E-CA8F27FCB79A">Software
Design Engineer/Test (Tester)</a>
            </strong>
          </p>
          <p>
Looking for your next big challenge? How about building the next version of the world’s
largest IM and social network platform? 
<br />
We are looking for a great SDET with solid design, problem solving skills and exceptional
track record to help build the next version of Windows Live Messenger and Social Network
platform. The Messenger network is already one of the largest social networks on the
planet, delivering BILLIONS of messages a day for HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of users world-wide. 
<br />
The SDET role involves working on these next-generation services and proving they
can be delivered to the massive scale required, with the quality our users have come
to expect. Particular focus areas for this role are scalability, performance and reliability: 
<br />
Scalability - building software systems to take each piece of hardware to its limits,
identifying bottlenecks, removing them and pushing harder; while also, proving the
system can grow linearly, as hardware is added. (…think 1,000s of machines). 
<br />
Performance - ensuring consistently fast response times across the system by smoothly
managing peak traffic -- which averages in the 10s of millions of simultaneous online
connections. 
<br />
Reliability - building online services that remain reliable under stress which the
operations team is able to easily monitor, troubleshoot, and repair; enabling the
aggressive up time requirements we aim for.
</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Email your resume to <a href="mailto:dareo@msft.com">dareo@msft.com</a> (replace msft
with microsoft) if the above job descriptions sound like they are a good fit for you.
If you have any questions about what working here is like, you can send me an email
and I'll either follow up via email or my blog to answer any questions of general
interest [within reason]. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Rascal Flatts&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Rascal
Flatts</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Rascal Flatts+Fast Cars and Freedom&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Fast
Cars and Freedom</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Wanna Work With Me?</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:58:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Reading depressing layoff related blog posts like George Oates's &lt;a href="http://george08.blogspot.com/2008/12/not-quite-what-i-had-in-mind.html"&gt;Not
quite what I had in mind&lt;/a&gt; and the Valley Wag's &lt;a href="http://valleywag.com/5111818/laid+off-yahoos-packing-heat-for-jerry-yang"&gt;Laid-off
Yahoos packing heat for Jerry Yang?&lt;/a&gt; reminded me that I've been meaning to post
about open positions on our team for a while. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The team I work for is responsible for the &amp;quot;social graph&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;news feed&amp;quot;
and online presence platforms that power various Windows Live experiences. You can
see some of our recent efforts in action by downloading &lt;a href="http://download.live.com"&gt;Windows
Live Essentials&lt;/a&gt; (beta) or visiting &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com"&gt;my
profile on Windows Live&lt;/a&gt; and browsing around. If you are interested in building
world class software that is used by &lt;u&gt;hundreds of millions of people&lt;/u&gt; and the
following job descriptions interest you then send me your resume&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=12654948-CF1D-47FE-9930-57837E335D0E"&gt;Software
Design Engineer (Developer)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Windows Live Messenger service is the backbone of one of world’s leading instant
messaging services. The service enables hundreds of millions of users to communicate
efficiently using text, voice, video and real-time status updates. This high-profile
business is growing to accommodate mobile devices, social networking, web applications
and other new areas. 
&lt;br /&gt;
We are seeking a developer with a fondness and talent for working on large-scale fault-tolerant
distributed systems. The job involves working on the back-end components that maintain
user state and route messages and notifications. In addition to improving the systems
performance and resiliency, our team will tackle hard new problems such as 
&lt;br /&gt;
- Supporting new ways of addressing users (personas or aliases) 
&lt;br /&gt;
- Extending user state to support offline presence and presence views 
&lt;br /&gt;
- Creating a generic notification service 
&lt;br /&gt;
- implementing effective request throttling and load-balancing across datacenters.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=1CA00765-B7B0-4CEA-969E-CA8F27FCB79A"&gt;Software
Design Engineer/Test (Tester)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Looking for your next big challenge? How about building the next version of the world’s
largest IM and social network platform? 
&lt;br /&gt;
We are looking for a great SDET with solid design, problem solving skills and exceptional
track record to help build the next version of Windows Live Messenger and Social Network
platform. The Messenger network is already one of the largest social networks on the
planet, delivering BILLIONS of messages a day for HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of users world-wide. 
&lt;br /&gt;
The SDET role involves working on these next-generation services and proving they
can be delivered to the massive scale required, with the quality our users have come
to expect. Particular focus areas for this role are scalability, performance and reliability: 
&lt;br /&gt;
Scalability - building software systems to take each piece of hardware to its limits,
identifying bottlenecks, removing them and pushing harder; while also, proving the
system can grow linearly, as hardware is added. (…think 1,000s of machines). 
&lt;br /&gt;
Performance - ensuring consistently fast response times across the system by smoothly
managing peak traffic -- which averages in the 10s of millions of simultaneous online
connections. 
&lt;br /&gt;
Reliability - building online services that remain reliable under stress which the
operations team is able to easily monitor, troubleshoot, and repair; enabling the
aggressive up time requirements we aim for.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Email your resume to &lt;a href="mailto:dareo@msft.com"&gt;dareo@msft.com&lt;/a&gt; (replace msft
with microsoft) if the above job descriptions sound like they are a good fit for you.
If you have any questions about what working here is like, you can send me an email
and I'll either follow up via email or my blog to answer any questions of general
interest [within reason]. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Rascal Flatts&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Rascal
Flatts&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Rascal Flatts+Fast Cars and Freedom&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Fast
Cars and Freedom&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Life in the B0rg Cube</category>
      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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        <p>
One feature that you will <u>not</u> find in <a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!50642.entry">Windows
Live's What's New list</a>, which shows a feed of a the activities from user's social
network, is inline comments. A number of sites that provide users with activity feeds
from their social network such as <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://www.friendfeed.com">Friendfeed</a> allow
comments to be made directly on news items in the feed. These comments end up showing
up as part of the activity feed that are visible to anyone who can view the feed item. 
</p>
        <p>
When <a href="http://cid-3c8ca60f8f925fec.profile.live.com">Rob</a> and I were deciding
upon the key functionality of the What's New feed for the current release of Windows
Live, we voted against inline comments for two reasons. 
</p>
        <p>
The key reason is that we want the feed to be about what your people in your network
are doing and not what people you don't know are doing or saying. However with the
Facebook feed I often have lengthy threads from people I don't know in my feed taking
up valuable space above the fold. For example, 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p0RuH9HZ1_hAxmtfjOHyJXmlrIUr_eebVwumNr0tg2UWvbLBVQsZyO_PryCbv-yx86OC0kkOh0O8/facebook.jpg" />  
</p>
        <p>
In the above screenshot, I find it rather awkward that a huge chunk of my feed is
being taken up by comments from people I don't know who are from Randy's network.
Besides the social awkwardness it creates there is another issue with the above screenshot.
Given that there is limited real estate for showing your feed it seems counter productive
for it to be dominated by comments from people you don't know which are never as interesting
as actual feed items. 
</p>
        <p>
For the second reason, let's look at a screenshot of an activity feed from FriendFeed
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pqBTH2RDSH5XBK3yfDco4xnWxC4mb-MBWn0B9x4FIDniRGmKcpc7UjASNSuJa3EAXoSrgMcXUTBU/friendfeed.JPG" />
        </p>
        <p>
in the above screenshot there are 24 comments on the feed item representing Robert
Scoble's blog post. These are 24 comments that could have been posted on his blog
but aren't. The more sites Robert imports his blog feed into, the more it fractures
and steals away the conversation from his blog post. This is in addition to the fact
that there is some confusion as to where people should leave comments on his blog
post. I've had people get confused about whether to respond to my posts as a comment
on my blog, in Friendfeed or on Facebook and it didn't seem helpful for us to add
yet another decision point to the mix. 
</p>
        <p>
For these reasons, we don't have inline commenting in the What's New list in Windows
Live. This isn't to say this is an irreversible decision. It has been pointed out
that for feed items that don't have their own comment threads (e.g. status messages)
it might be useful to have inline commenting. In addition, I'm sure there are some
people who believe that the benefits of inline commenting outweigh the drawbacks that
we've mentioned above. I'd love to hear what users of Windows Live think about the
above decision and thought process behind it. Let me know in the comments.  
</p>
        <p>
          <u>PS:</u> If you are interested in more behind the scenes looks at some of the big
and small decisions around the What's New feature in Windows Live, you should read
Rob Dolin's ongoing series of posts entitled <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!2918.entry">Series:
What New in Windows Live “What’s New” and Why</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Guns N' Roses&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Guns
N' Roses</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Guns N' Roses+Chinese Democracy&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Chinese
Democracy</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Some Thoughts on Inline Comments in Activity Feeds</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:35:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
One feature that you will &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; find in &lt;a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!50642.entry"&gt;Windows
Live's What's New list&lt;/a&gt;, which shows a feed of a the activities from user's social
network, is inline comments. A number of sites that provide users with activity feeds
from their social network such as &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.friendfeed.com"&gt;Friendfeed&lt;/a&gt; allow
comments to be made directly on news items in the feed. These comments end up showing
up as part of the activity feed that are visible to anyone who can view the feed item. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
When &lt;a href="http://cid-3c8ca60f8f925fec.profile.live.com"&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt; and I were deciding
upon the key functionality of the What's New feed for the current release of Windows
Live, we voted against inline comments for two reasons. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The key reason is that we want the feed to be about what your people in your network
are doing and not what people you don't know are doing or saying. However with the
Facebook feed I often have lengthy threads from people I don't know in my feed taking
up valuable space above the fold. For example, 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p0RuH9HZ1_hAxmtfjOHyJXmlrIUr_eebVwumNr0tg2UWvbLBVQsZyO_PryCbv-yx86OC0kkOh0O8/facebook.jpg" /&gt;&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the above screenshot, I find it rather awkward that a huge chunk of my feed is
being taken up by comments from people I don't know who are from Randy's network.
Besides the social awkwardness it creates there is another issue with the above screenshot.
Given that there is limited real estate for showing your feed it seems counter productive
for it to be dominated by comments from people you don't know which are never as interesting
as actual feed items. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For the second reason, let's look at a screenshot of an activity feed from FriendFeed
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pqBTH2RDSH5XBK3yfDco4xnWxC4mb-MBWn0B9x4FIDniRGmKcpc7UjASNSuJa3EAXoSrgMcXUTBU/friendfeed.JPG" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
in the above screenshot there are 24 comments on the feed item representing Robert
Scoble's blog post. These are 24 comments that could have been posted on his blog
but aren't. The more sites Robert imports his blog feed into, the more it fractures
and steals away the conversation from his blog post. This is in addition to the fact
that there is some confusion as to where people should leave comments on his blog
post. I've had people get confused about whether to respond to my posts as a comment
on my blog, in Friendfeed or on Facebook and it didn't seem helpful for us to add
yet another decision point to the mix. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For these reasons, we don't have inline commenting in the What's New list in Windows
Live. This isn't to say this is an irreversible decision. It has been pointed out
that for feed items that don't have their own comment threads (e.g. status messages)
it might be useful to have inline commenting. In addition, I'm sure there are some
people who believe that the benefits of inline commenting outweigh the drawbacks that
we've mentioned above. I'd love to hear what users of Windows Live think about the
above decision and thought process behind it. Let me know in the comments.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;PS:&lt;/u&gt; If you are interested in more behind the scenes looks at some of the big
and small decisions around the What's New feature in Windows Live, you should read
Rob Dolin's ongoing series of posts entitled &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!2918.entry"&gt;Series:
What New in Windows Live “What’s New” and Why&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Guns N' Roses&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Guns
N' Roses&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Guns N' Roses+Chinese Democracy&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Chinese
Democracy&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Social Software</category>
      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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        <p>
The place to find the most recent comments on your photos, blog posts, profile, files
and shared favorites is <a title="http://profile.live.com/recentcomments/" href="http://profile.live.com/recentcomments">http://profile.live.com/recentcomments</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
If you are like me and prefer to navigate from a central place like <a href="http://home.live.com">http://home.live.com</a>,
the screenshot below shows where to find the link to recent comments on that page 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pxcWTGdZ3u66s5gdRRs5ESLpX5fehEo1VH5GwQec0pfsxQ1SemycBBy4uiSsD5VdovTSZhSR7SqE/recent comments.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Rihanna&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Rihanna</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Rihanna+Rehab (Album Version)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Rehab
(Album Version)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
        <img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=33464c82-4de5-42b2-9d26-1b7fef7a7c7f" />
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      <title>Windows Live Tip: Finding Recent Comments On Your Stuff</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:34:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
The place to find the most recent comments on your photos, blog posts, profile, files
and shared favorites is &lt;a title="http://profile.live.com/recentcomments/" href="http://profile.live.com/recentcomments"&gt;http://profile.live.com/recentcomments&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If you are like me and prefer to navigate from a central place like &lt;a href="http://home.live.com"&gt;http://home.live.com&lt;/a&gt;,
the screenshot below shows where to find the link to recent comments on that page 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pxcWTGdZ3u66s5gdRRs5ESLpX5fehEo1VH5GwQec0pfsxQ1SemycBBy4uiSsD5VdovTSZhSR7SqE/recent comments.jpg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Rihanna&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Rihanna&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Rihanna+Rehab (Album Version)&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Rehab
(Album Version)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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      <dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo</dc:creator>
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        <p>
Giving users complete control of their online experience has always been a core tenet
of Windows Live and this hasn't changed with the <a title="The Space Craft: Keep in touch with friends and family with What’s New and Web Activities" href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!50642.entry">What's
New list feature</a> in Windows Live. This feature enables users to view an activity
feed of what members of their social network are doing AND to provide an activity
feed of what the user has done recently. You can see an example of the latter on <a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com">my
Windows Live profile</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
Listed below are the various ways we keep users in control of their online experience
related to this feature. 
</p>
        <h4>In Control of What You See 
</h4>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnAyLOThULnznFtam7NFzaZOTP_DHRY6temcwLCatCdiyNcaXLPQOLNPSIgv3i6ea-VQOqWYfigg/wn_hide.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
By default a user sees activities from members of their network and from groups they
are in. However users can opt out of getting activities from any member of their network
or from any group they are in without breaking their relationship with that user or
group. In addition, users can also opt out of getting activities of a specific type
(e.g. friend additions or Twitter updates) from members of their network. 
</p>
        <p>
We provide two entry points for managing what updates you get from your network. First
of all, users can manage updates from a particular user or update type by hovering
over the item in the dashboard and clicking on the gear icon. The users, groups and
applications that are currently blocked can be viewed on the What's New settings page
at <a href="http://profile.live.com/whatsnewsettings">http://profile.live.com/whatsnewsettings</a>.
This is what that page looks like for me at the current time.  
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pjCVOjfWxZ4pjPF6LNWnnm3Cp0LxG74NriUWk0nqWnfo1s0fhu2YAAB3r9OWqRBHTuZ_FJmZ9erg/wn_options.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
As you can see from the above screenshot, I haven't hidden any update types from my
What's New list. I did add the "Paintballers" group to my list of hidden
groups though. Although I like getting paintballing events in my calendar, I'm not
interested in discussions or photos about paintball on a regular basis. <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /></p>
        <h4>In Control of What Others See About You
</h4>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pkLv7XgcTC7Uzf_RNUCuokThFU0IW4sMvTM1BXkCQ5ewmwphcNll14nyr77cjMF8GFNQfb-4HuwY/ra_delete.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
Some times, users may want to retract updates that have gone out to their social network.
For example, a reference to inappropriate content that may offend people in their
social network or <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/11/30/NakedPicturesInMyFacebookNewsFeed.aspx">pictures
of streaking or similar nude pranks</a> which inadvertently go out to the wrong people.
For this reason, we give users the ability to delete such items from their profile
which immediately deletes it from the what's new lists of their friends as shown below 
</p>
        <p>
It should also be noted that each update type typically has a permission associated
with it. This means that a user can control who has access to a particular photo album,
their shared favorites or even their Twitter stream (as shown below). That way you
can still broadcast updates to your friends on Windows Live without worrying that
you are accidentally sharing inappropriate content with your boss or coworkers. <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" /></p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pMfa01xE693fkJpoQDWESJaQk2ddiXxWvMjtqsWx5GSvObnsiXRWaP9aRTuQ_i7ow5F23sJNB0ko/activity_acl.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
In addition there is an options page where users can completely opt out of broadcasting
updates from Windows Live to members of their social network.  For example, I
know someone who'd rather not have it broadcasted whenever he changes his status message
in Messenger since he believes they should ephemeral thoughts and not captured for
posterity. This options page also allows configuring updates from other web sites
that are being aggregated on the user's profile. The What's New with you settings
page can be found at <a href="http://profile.live.com/WhatsNewWithYouSettings">http://profile.live.com/WhatsNewWithYouSettings</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
A screenshot of the settings page is shown below 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pXzdnzEQFBt5RnLKF-SaGJNYvNOioVrq_iOPmJN6lda_mHJUtdry_CH_lLKSNWtgeb6D_2R4XtiElCpDk15e5JA/ra_options.jpg" />
        </p>
        <h4>Conclusion
</h4>
        <p>
So you can see when it comes to activity feeds in Windows Live, our mantra is to keep
users in control. Let me know what you think of our approach in the comments. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Kanye West&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Kanye
West</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Kanye West+See You In My Nightmares (feat. Lil Wayne)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">See
You In My Nightmares (feat. Lil Wayne)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Putting Users In Control of Their Activity Feeds in Windows Live</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:10:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Giving users complete control of their online experience has always been a core tenet
of Windows Live and this hasn't changed with the &lt;a title="The Space Craft: Keep in touch with friends and family with What’s New and Web Activities" href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!50642.entry"&gt;What's
New list feature&lt;/a&gt; in Windows Live. This feature enables users to view an activity
feed of what members of their social network are doing AND to provide an activity
feed of what the user has done recently. You can see an example of the latter on &lt;a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com"&gt;my
Windows Live profile&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Listed below are the various ways we keep users in control of their online experience
related to this feature. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;In Control of What You See 
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pnAyLOThULnznFtam7NFzaZOTP_DHRY6temcwLCatCdiyNcaXLPQOLNPSIgv3i6ea-VQOqWYfigg/wn_hide.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
By default a user sees activities from members of their network and from groups they
are in. However users can opt out of getting activities from any member of their network
or from any group they are in without breaking their relationship with that user or
group. In addition, users can also opt out of getting activities of a specific type
(e.g. friend additions or Twitter updates) from members of their network. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
We provide two entry points for managing what updates you get from your network. First
of all, users can manage updates from a particular user or update type by hovering
over the item in the dashboard and clicking on the gear icon. The users, groups and
applications that are currently blocked can be viewed on the What's New settings page
at &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com/whatsnewsettings"&gt;http://profile.live.com/whatsnewsettings&lt;/a&gt;.
This is what that page looks like for me at the current time.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pjCVOjfWxZ4pjPF6LNWnnm3Cp0LxG74NriUWk0nqWnfo1s0fhu2YAAB3r9OWqRBHTuZ_FJmZ9erg/wn_options.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As you can see from the above screenshot, I haven't hidden any update types from my
What's New list. I did add the &amp;quot;Paintballers&amp;quot; group to my list of hidden
groups though. Although I like getting paintballing events in my calendar, I'm not
interested in discussions or photos about paintball on a regular basis. &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;In Control of What Others See About You
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pkLv7XgcTC7Uzf_RNUCuokThFU0IW4sMvTM1BXkCQ5ewmwphcNll14nyr77cjMF8GFNQfb-4HuwY/ra_delete.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some times, users may want to retract updates that have gone out to their social network.
For example, a reference to inappropriate content that may offend people in their
social network or &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/11/30/NakedPicturesInMyFacebookNewsFeed.aspx"&gt;pictures
of streaking or similar nude pranks&lt;/a&gt; which inadvertently go out to the wrong people.
For this reason, we give users the ability to delete such items from their profile
which immediately deletes it from the what's new lists of their friends as shown below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It should also be noted that each update type typically has a permission associated
with it. This means that a user can control who has access to a particular photo album,
their shared favorites or even their Twitter stream (as shown below). That way you
can still broadcast updates to your friends on Windows Live without worrying that
you are accidentally sharing inappropriate content with your boss or coworkers. &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pMfa01xE693fkJpoQDWESJaQk2ddiXxWvMjtqsWx5GSvObnsiXRWaP9aRTuQ_i7ow5F23sJNB0ko/activity_acl.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In addition there is an options page where users can completely opt out of broadcasting
updates from Windows Live to members of their social network.&amp;#160; For example, I
know someone who'd rather not have it broadcasted whenever he changes his status message
in Messenger since he believes they should ephemeral thoughts and not captured for
posterity. This options page also allows configuring updates from other web sites
that are being aggregated on the user's profile. The What's New with you settings
page can be found at &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com/WhatsNewWithYouSettings"&gt;http://profile.live.com/WhatsNewWithYouSettings&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A screenshot of the settings page is shown below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pXzdnzEQFBt5RnLKF-SaGJNYvNOioVrq_iOPmJN6lda_mHJUtdry_CH_lLKSNWtgeb6D_2R4XtiElCpDk15e5JA/ra_options.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Conclusion
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So you can see when it comes to activity feeds in Windows Live, our mantra is to keep
users in control. Let me know what you think of our approach in the comments. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Kanye West&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Kanye
West&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Kanye West+See You In My Nightmares (feat. Lil Wayne)&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;See
You In My Nightmares (feat. Lil Wayne)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
So I've been constantly refreshing <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=windows+live">Twitter
search for "Windows Live"</a> and so far the comments on our <a title="Windows Live Team Blog: The new face of Windows Live on the web" href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%212F7EB29B42641D59%2126304.entry">latest
release</a> have been super positive. Here is a sampling of tweets from the last two
hours 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/slaguzman">
              <em>slaguzman</em>
            </a>
            <em>: </em>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/WindowsLiveWire">
              <em>@WindowsLiveWire</em>
            </a>
            <em> I
really like the new version of Windows Live! Keep up the good work.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/paulsterling">
              <em>paulsterling</em>
            </a>
            <em>: new windows
live looks really good - nice!</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/Bashmohandes">
              <em>Bashmohandes</em>
            </a>
            <em>: Windows Live
Wave 3 is AWESOME !!!</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/benriga">
              <em>benriga</em>
            </a>
            <em>: New Windows Live is
looking pretty sweet. It's come a long way with the new wave.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/niceguyscott">
              <em>niceguyscott</em>
            </a>
            <em>: The new windows
live experience is doap.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/MikeGalos">
              <em>MikeGalos</em>
            </a>
            <em>: OK. After an hour.
Windows Live Wave 3 is very, very cool.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/Anchelspain">
              <em>Anchelspain</em>
            </a>
            <em>: Loving the
new and improved version of the Windows Live services. Mail, social network, blogging,
picture uploading... everything's great!</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/sharepointing">
              <em>sharepointing</em>
            </a>
            <em>: I am liking
the "Social Networking" refresh at Windows Live</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/Elepsis">
              <em>Elepsis</em>
            </a>
            <em>: The new Windows Live
services are starting to roll out. They're looking pretty awesome. :)</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/joshpowell">
              <em>joshpowell</em>
            </a>
            <em>: The new Windows
Live services are pretty cool. I'm adding in web services such as Twitter, Flickr,
etc. to a central feed.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/baxiabhishek">
              <em>baxiabhishek</em>
            </a>
            <em>: Sweet! Windows
Live Wave 3 is rolled out for my account. Awesome!</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/Ingdawg">
              <em>Ingdawg</em>
            </a>
            <em>: </em>
            <a href="http://twitter.com/majornelson">
              <em>@majornelson</em>
            </a>
            <em> Windows
Live Home is awesome. Love how everything is in one place.</em>
          </p>
          <div class="msg">
            <i>
              <a href="http://twitter.com/ScottTrepanier" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/exit/to/ScottTrepanier');" target="_blank">ScottTrepanier</a>: <span id="msgtxt1035652541" class="msgtxt en">Uploading
photos to the new Windows Live...I love it.</span></i>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Excited and proud doesn't even begin to cover what it feels like to get this release
out there. 
</p>
        <p>
 <img style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Amy%20Winehouse&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Amy
Winehouse</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Amy%20Winehouse+Love%20Is%20A%20Losing%20Game&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Love
Is A Losing Game</a><img style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Windows Live Reviews on Twitter</title>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink,guid,548e6200-ec2f-4e7d-a1ee-1800120a125d.aspx</guid>
      <link>http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/12/03/WindowsLiveReviewsOnTwitter.aspx</link>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:54:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
So I've been constantly refreshing &lt;a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=windows+live"&gt;Twitter
search for "Windows Live"&lt;/a&gt; and so far the comments on our &lt;a title="Windows Live Team Blog: The new face of Windows Live on the web" href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%212F7EB29B42641D59%2126304.entry"&gt;latest
release&lt;/a&gt; have been super positive. Here is a sampling of tweets from the last two
hours 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/slaguzman"&gt;&lt;em&gt;slaguzman&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/WindowsLiveWire"&gt;&lt;em&gt;@WindowsLiveWire&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; I
really like the new version of Windows Live! Keep up the good work.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/paulsterling"&gt;&lt;em&gt;paulsterling&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: new windows
live looks really good - nice!&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Bashmohandes"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bashmohandes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: Windows Live
Wave 3 is AWESOME !!!&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/benriga"&gt;&lt;em&gt;benriga&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: New Windows Live is
looking pretty sweet. It's come a long way with the new wave.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/niceguyscott"&gt;&lt;em&gt;niceguyscott&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: The new windows
live experience is doap.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/MikeGalos"&gt;&lt;em&gt;MikeGalos&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: OK. After an hour.
Windows Live Wave 3 is very, very cool.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Anchelspain"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Anchelspain&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: Loving the
new and improved version of the Windows Live services. Mail, social network, blogging,
picture uploading... everything's great!&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/sharepointing"&gt;&lt;em&gt;sharepointing&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: I am liking
the "Social Networking" refresh at Windows Live&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Elepsis"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elepsis&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: The new Windows Live
services are starting to roll out. They're looking pretty awesome. :)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/joshpowell"&gt;&lt;em&gt;joshpowell&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: The new Windows
Live services are pretty cool. I'm adding in web services such as Twitter, Flickr,
etc. to a central feed.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/baxiabhishek"&gt;&lt;em&gt;baxiabhishek&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: Sweet! Windows
Live Wave 3 is rolled out for my account. Awesome!&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Ingdawg"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ingdawg&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/majornelson"&gt;&lt;em&gt;@majornelson&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; Windows
Live Home is awesome. Love how everything is in one place.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class="msg"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/ScottTrepanier" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/exit/to/ScottTrepanier');" target="_blank"&gt;ScottTrepanier&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span id="msgtxt1035652541" class="msgtxt en"&gt;Uploading
photos to the new Windows Live...I love it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Excited and proud doesn't even begin to cover what it feels like to get this release
out there. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif"&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Amy%20Winehouse&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Amy
Winehouse&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Amy%20Winehouse+Love%20Is%20A%20Losing%20Game&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Love
Is A Losing Game&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif"&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
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        <p>
As some of you know, last year I worked on the platform behind the <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/10/12/WindowsLiveEventsAndUpdatedWhatsNewPageOnWindowsLiveSpaces.aspx">What's
New page on Windows Live Spaces</a> which provides the similar functionality to the <a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2207967130">News
Feed on Facebook</a>.  That was just our first run at the feature and almost
immediately after our release there was some great feedback from various corners.
The most complete feedback I found online came from Jamie Thomson who <a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!550F681DAD532637!1912.entry">wrote
about the Spaces home page</a> and gave the following suggestions 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>There's a lot of potential for this activity list given that it could capture
any activity people commit using their Live ID. Every live property has the potential
for being able to post activity on here so one day we may see notifications of: </em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>change of messenger status </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>posting of photos on Live Space </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>addition of gadgets to Live Space </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>items placed for sale on Expo </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>questions asked or answered on QnA </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>collection shared from Live Maps </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>video posted on MSN video </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>changes to XBox gamer card </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>changes to Zune Social (after it launches) </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>items posted to the Live Gallery </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>an event being planned </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>purchased a song from Zune marketplace </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>posts in MSN groups (soon to be Live Groups) </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>posts to online forums (forums.microsoft.com) </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>downloads of public files from Skydrive</em>
            </li>
          </ul>
          <p>
            <em>Its all pretty good but let's be honest, this is basically a clone of of what
Facebook already have. Given Facebook's popularity though Microsoft didn't really
have a choice but to copy them. If Microsoft really want to differentiate themselves
in this arena then one option would be to provide avenues for interacting with other
online services such as Flickr, Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce,  etc... This list could
then become an aggregator for all online activity and that's a pretty compelling scenario.
One really quick win in this area would be to capture any blog entry that is posted
from Live Writer, regardless of whether it is posted to Live Spaces or not. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Turning the idea on its head...it would be cool to be able to publish the activity
list on other sites such as MySpace, Bebo and (them again) Facebook. </em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
It isn’t often that you can get such complete feedback from one of your customers
and then turn around and say you implemented <u><strong>every feature</strong></u> they
asked for. From the list of 15 suggested activities to add to the feed above, I’d
say about half either now show up in the feed today or will soon show up. The rest
won’t either because the service is being deprecated (e.g. Live Expo being wound down)
or we explicitly decided that notifications on that change didn’t seem particularly
relevant (e.g. notifications when someone you know downloads a file off of SkyDrive). 
</p>
        <p>
Besides the features Jamie asked for we added one more that seems obvious in hindsight;
an Atom feed of the updates from your social network so you can keep up to date with
your social network from your favorite feed reader. Thanks to this feature we satisfied <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!2918.entry#comment">another
recent request</a> from Jamie and there is now a Vista gadget that can be used to
consume your What's New feed directly from your desktop. Both the gadget and Atom
feed feature were the results of dev work by our 2008 summer interns. As I <a href="http://twitter.com/Carnage4Life/statuses/838232342">mentioned
on Twitter a few months ago</a> I suspect many of my readers will appreciate their
output. 
</p>
        <p>
We also enable our users to aggregate their online activity in a single place and
then share it with their friends. For example, if you go to <a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com">my
Windows Live profile</a> you’ll see that I’ve aggregated my activities from <a href="http://www.twitter.com">Twitter</a>, <a href="http://www.pandora.com">Pandora</a>, <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com">StumbleUpon</a>,and <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog">my
personal weblog</a> onto my Windows Live profile which will then show up on the What’s
New page of my friends in Windows Live. Activities can be aggregated from a number
of other sites including <a href="http://www.flickr.com">Flickr</a>, <a href="http://www.flixster.com">Flixster</a>, <a href="http://www.photobucket.com">PhotoBucket</a>, <a href="http://www.yelp.com">Yelp</a>, <a href="http://www.ilike.com">iLike</a>,
blogs hosted on <a href="http://www.wordpress.com">Wordpress.com</a> and <a href="http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/techtracks/2008/11/12/full_list_windows_live_to_integrate_feeds_from_50.html">a
bunch of other sites</a> with more to come in the future. Of course, you can just
import a regular old RSS or Atom feed as well.  
</p>
        <p>
Although this functionality started out as a feature of Windows Live Spaces, it soon
became clear that this feature really should be a “Windows Live” feature. This means
it is deeply integrated into all of the major Windows Live products including desktop
applications like Windows Live Messenger and the Windows Live Toolbar. Also there
are a ton of revamped Windows Live web experiences that pivot around the What's New
list such as the <a href="http://home.live.com">Home</a>, <a href="http://photos.live.com">Photos</a>, <a href="http://groups.live.com">Groups</a> and
the <a href="http://profile.live.com">Profile</a> pages. 
</p>
        <p>
          <a href="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew%5B1%5D.jpg">
            <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew[1].jpg" width="318" height="208" />
          </a>
          <a href="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups%5B1%5D.jpg">
            <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups[1].jpg" width="318" height="215" />
          </a>
          <a href="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER">
            <img src="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER" width="318" height="284" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
Now for the back story.
</p>
        <p>
At the end of last year, the main problem it seemed we had to tackle was making it
easier for other Windows Live and/or Microsoft product teams to plug into the What's
New feed on Windows Live Spaces. However the list of teams interested in the feed
continued to grow as did the number of feature requests we got the more we talked
to people about it. Once we saw all the new requirements for the feature at the beginning
of this year and started doing the math on what it would take to support on the order
of <font color="#ff0000">hundreds of millions people using this feature and handling
billions of transactions a day</font> it quickly became clear we had to redesign from
scratch. In the words of Frederick Brooks, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month#The_Pilot_System">build
one to throw away – you will anyway</a>. It has been a grueling but fun year getting
the platform out and it feels great to see millions of people enjoying our handiwork.
This should explain <a title="Some Thoughts on Twitter's Availability Problems" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/05/23/SomeThoughtsOnTwittersAvailabilityProblems.aspx">my
interest in Twitter’s scaling problems</a> earlier this year since a micro blogging
service with a model of followers and an open API is in the same problem space as
providing a news feed that supports activity aggregation on a social networking site.
Building a system to support over <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/msn/factsheet/hotmail.mspx">280
million Hotmail users</a>, <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/apr07/04-08messengerxboxpr.mspx">260
million Messenger users</a> and around <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/msn/factsheet/WindowsLiveSpacesFS.mspx">120
million Spaces users</a> from scratch has been a helluva thing. We've definitely pulled
all of the scaling tricks out of the bag including my favorite trio of <a title="Dark Launches, Gradual Ramps and Isolation: Testing the Scalability of New Features on your Web Site" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/06/19/DarkLaunchesGradualRampsAndIsolationTestingTheScalabilityOfNewFeaturesOnYourWebSite.aspx">Dark
Launches, Gradual Ramps and Isolation</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
Much love to everyone who made this happen; Hammad, Brad B, Austin, Derrick, Peter,
Paul, Badriddine, John, and Kyle. You guys were a killer dev &amp; test team (the
interns included). We also had great support from our leads Mike P, Inder &amp; Diego.
Our ops folks were incredible, I owe you all a big hug; Srdjan, Curtis, David G (deserter!!!
*smile* ),  Scott R, Keith, William, Eric, Ziad, Teri, Michael, and Edet. Props
to Kerstin, Sharad, Suresh, Alpesh and everyone else who made the aggregation experience
shine on the platform end. Thanks to all the UX folks who touched or were touched
by this feature including Miriam, David L, Jeff, Lavinder, Douc, Hua, Stacey, Vlad,
Alton, Chad, Edgar, Colin, Jennifer, Omar, Mike, Shu, Michelle, Chris, Jason, Scott
S, Chuck, Ben, Khalid, Deepa, <a href="http://cid-3c8ca60f8f925fec.profile.live.com/">Rob</a> (my
partner in crime – we worked on this so closely I have him on speed dial on my cell
phone) and a ton of other folks on the Windows Live Experience team,  you guys
rock. And finally thanks to all the management folks that were super supportive; Ramesh,
Russ, <a href="http://cid-8fe9bdc46b94d02a.profile.live.com/">Chris</a>, Tread, Ben
and Debra. Without you guys none of this would have happened. 
</p>
        <p>
Damn, I love working here. <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Open-mouthed" alt="Open-mouthed" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif" /></p>
        <p>
          <u>PS:</u> <a title="The What’s New Page in Windows Live Spaces" href="http://brandonleblanc.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!BBB1EF94681F0A70!57041.entry">Brandon</a>,
I hope you like this release.  
</p>
        <p>
          <u>PPS:</u> By the way, <strong><font color="#ff0000">we're hiring</font></strong> and
are looking for a few good operations folks, developers and testers who wouldn't mind
spending their days building services that are used by tens of millions of people
every single day.  Send me your resume if interested. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> <b>Now
Playing:</b><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Ice Cube&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Ice
Cube</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Ice Cube+Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Gangsta
Rap Made Me Do It</a> <img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
        <img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=b4e3e66b-5dfa-4a73-b856-bc68b6c8f3a3" />
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      <title>What We Did Last Summer: Social Network Aggregation and Activity Feeds in Windows Live</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:43:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As some of you know, last year I worked on the platform behind the &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/10/12/WindowsLiveEventsAndUpdatedWhatsNewPageOnWindowsLiveSpaces.aspx"&gt;What's
New page on Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt; which provides the similar functionality to the &lt;a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2207967130"&gt;News
Feed on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160; That was just our first run at the feature and almost
immediately after our release there was some great feedback from various corners.
The most complete feedback I found online came from Jamie Thomson who &lt;a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!550F681DAD532637!1912.entry"&gt;wrote
about the Spaces home page&lt;/a&gt; and gave the following suggestions 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;There's a lot of potential for this activity list given that it could capture
any activity people commit using their Live ID. Every live property has the potential
for being able to post activity on here so one day we may see notifications of: &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;change of messenger status &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;posting of photos on Live Space &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;addition of gadgets to Live Space &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;items placed for sale on Expo &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;questions asked or answered on QnA &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;collection shared from Live Maps &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;video posted on MSN video &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;changes to XBox gamer card &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;changes to Zune Social (after it launches) &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;items posted to the Live Gallery &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;an event being planned &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;purchased a song from Zune marketplace &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;posts in MSN groups (soon to be Live Groups) &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;posts to online forums (forums.microsoft.com) &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;downloads of public files from Skydrive&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Its all pretty good but let's be honest, this is basically a clone of of what
Facebook already have. Given Facebook's popularity though Microsoft didn't really
have a choice but to copy them. If Microsoft really want to differentiate themselves
in this arena then one option would be to provide avenues for interacting with other
online services such as Flickr, Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce,&amp;#160; etc... This list could
then become an aggregator for all online activity and that's a pretty compelling scenario.
One really quick win in this area would be to capture any blog entry that is posted
from Live Writer, regardless of whether it is posted to Live Spaces or not. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Turning the idea on its head...it would be cool to be able to publish the activity
list on other sites such as MySpace, Bebo and (them again) Facebook. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
It isn’t often that you can get such complete feedback from one of your customers
and then turn around and say you implemented &lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;every feature&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt; they
asked for. From the list of 15 suggested activities to add to the feed above, I’d
say about half either now show up in the feed today or will soon show up. The rest
won’t either because the service is being deprecated (e.g. Live Expo being wound down)
or we explicitly decided that notifications on that change didn’t seem particularly
relevant (e.g. notifications when someone you know downloads a file off of SkyDrive). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Besides the features Jamie asked for we added one more that seems obvious in hindsight;
an Atom feed of the updates from your social network so you can keep up to date with
your social network from your favorite feed reader. Thanks to this feature we satisfied &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!2918.entry#comment"&gt;another
recent request&lt;/a&gt; from Jamie and there is now a Vista gadget that can be used to
consume your What's New feed directly from your desktop. Both the gadget and Atom
feed feature were the results of dev work by our 2008 summer interns. As I &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Carnage4Life/statuses/838232342"&gt;mentioned
on Twitter a few months ago&lt;/a&gt; I suspect many of my readers will appreciate their
output. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
We also enable our users to aggregate their online activity in a single place and
then share it with their friends. For example, if you go to &lt;a href="http://cid-616444ee7a34f417.profile.live.com"&gt;my
Windows Live profile&lt;/a&gt; you’ll see that I’ve aggregated my activities from &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.pandora.com"&gt;Pandora&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com"&gt;StumbleUpon&lt;/a&gt;,and &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog"&gt;my
personal weblog&lt;/a&gt; onto my Windows Live profile which will then show up on the What’s
New page of my friends in Windows Live. Activities can be aggregated from a number
of other sites including &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com"&gt;Flickr&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.flixster.com"&gt;Flixster&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.photobucket.com"&gt;PhotoBucket&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.yelp.com"&gt;Yelp&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.ilike.com"&gt;iLike&lt;/a&gt;,
blogs hosted on &lt;a href="http://www.wordpress.com"&gt;Wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/techtracks/2008/11/12/full_list_windows_live_to_integrate_feeds_from_50.html"&gt;a
bunch of other sites&lt;/a&gt; with more to come in the future. Of course, you can just
import a regular old RSS or Atom feed as well.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Although this functionality started out as a feature of Windows Live Spaces, it soon
became clear that this feature really should be a “Windows Live” feature. This means
it is deeply integrated into all of the major Windows Live products including desktop
applications like Windows Live Messenger and the Windows Live Toolbar. Also there
are a ton of revamped Windows Live web experiences that pivot around the What's New
list such as the &lt;a href="http://home.live.com"&gt;Home&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://photos.live.com"&gt;Photos&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://groups.live.com"&gt;Groups&lt;/a&gt; and
the &lt;a href="http://profile.live.com"&gt;Profile&lt;/a&gt; pages. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew%5B1%5D.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew[1].jpg" width="318" height="208" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups%5B1%5D.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups[1].jpg" width="318" height="215" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER"&gt;&lt;img src="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER" width="318" height="284" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Now for the back story.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At the end of last year, the main problem it seemed we had to tackle was making it
easier for other Windows Live and/or Microsoft product teams to plug into the What's
New feed on Windows Live Spaces. However the list of teams interested in the feed
continued to grow as did the number of feature requests we got the more we talked
to people about it. Once we saw all the new requirements for the feature at the beginning
of this year and started doing the math on what it would take to support on the order
of &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;hundreds of millions people using this feature and handling
billions of transactions a day&lt;/font&gt; it quickly became clear we had to redesign from
scratch. In the words of Frederick Brooks, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month#The_Pilot_System"&gt;build
one to throw away – you will anyway&lt;/a&gt;. It has been a grueling but fun year getting
the platform out and it feels great to see millions of people enjoying our handiwork.
This should explain &lt;a title="Some Thoughts on Twitter&amp;#39;s Availability Problems" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/05/23/SomeThoughtsOnTwittersAvailabilityProblems.aspx"&gt;my
interest in Twitter’s scaling problems&lt;/a&gt; earlier this year since a micro blogging
service with a model of followers and an open API is in the same problem space as
providing a news feed that supports activity aggregation on a social networking site.
Building a system to support over &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/msn/factsheet/hotmail.mspx"&gt;280
million Hotmail users&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/apr07/04-08messengerxboxpr.mspx"&gt;260
million Messenger users&lt;/a&gt; and around &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/msn/factsheet/WindowsLiveSpacesFS.mspx"&gt;120
million Spaces users&lt;/a&gt; from scratch has been a helluva thing. We've definitely pulled
all of the scaling tricks out of the bag including my favorite trio of &lt;a title="Dark Launches, Gradual Ramps and Isolation: Testing the Scalability of New Features on your Web Site" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/06/19/DarkLaunchesGradualRampsAndIsolationTestingTheScalabilityOfNewFeaturesOnYourWebSite.aspx"&gt;Dark
Launches, Gradual Ramps and Isolation&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Much love to everyone who made this happen; Hammad, Brad B, Austin, Derrick, Peter,
Paul, Badriddine, John, and Kyle. You guys were a killer dev &amp;amp; test team (the
interns included). We also had great support from our leads Mike P, Inder &amp;amp; Diego.
Our ops folks were incredible, I owe you all a big hug; Srdjan, Curtis, David G (deserter!!!
*smile* ),&amp;#160; Scott R, Keith, William, Eric, Ziad, Teri, Michael, and Edet. Props
to Kerstin, Sharad, Suresh, Alpesh and everyone else who made the aggregation experience
shine on the platform end. Thanks to all the UX folks who touched or were touched
by this feature including Miriam, David L, Jeff, Lavinder, Douc, Hua, Stacey, Vlad,
Alton, Chad, Edgar, Colin, Jennifer, Omar, Mike, Shu, Michelle, Chris, Jason, Scott
S, Chuck, Ben, Khalid, Deepa, &lt;a href="http://cid-3c8ca60f8f925fec.profile.live.com/"&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt; (my
partner in crime – we worked on this so closely I have him on speed dial on my cell
phone) and a ton of other folks on the Windows Live Experience team,&amp;#160; you guys
rock. And finally thanks to all the management folks that were super supportive; Ramesh,
Russ, &lt;a href="http://cid-8fe9bdc46b94d02a.profile.live.com/"&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;, Tread, Ben
and Debra. Without you guys none of this would have happened. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Damn, I love working here. &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Open-mouthed" alt="Open-mouthed" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;PS:&lt;/u&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;a title="The What’s New Page in Windows Live Spaces" href="http://brandonleblanc.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!BBB1EF94681F0A70!57041.entry"&gt;Brandon&lt;/a&gt;,
I hope you like this release.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;PPS:&lt;/u&gt; By the way, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;we're hiring&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and
are looking for a few good operations folks, developers and testers who wouldn't mind
spending their days building services that are used by tens of millions of people
every single day.&amp;#160; Send me your resume if interested. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;b&gt;Now
Playing:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Ice Cube&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Ice
Cube&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Ice Cube+Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Gangsta
Rap Made Me Do It&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;img title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
          <em>
            <u>Disclaimer:</u> What follows are my personal impressions from investigating
the community technology preview version of the Live Framwork (LiveFX). It is not
meant to be an official description of the project from Microsoft, you can find that <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/">here</a>.</em>
        </p>
        <p>
At Microsoft's recent Professional Developer Conference, a new set of Web services
called <em>Live Framework</em> (aka LiveFX) was unveiled. As I've spent the past year
working on <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/11/13/ComingSoonUpdatedWindowsLiveOnlineServices.aspx">platforms
for user experiences in Windows Live</a>, I actually haven't been keeping up to date
with what's going on in developer API land when it comes to programming against our
services. So I decided to check out the <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/">Live
Framework website</a> and find out exactly what was announced. 
</p>
        <h4>What is it?
</h4>
        <p>
Although the main website is somewhat light on details, I eventually gleaned enough
information from the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd156996.aspx">Live
Framework SDK documentation on MSDN</a> to conclude that LiveFX consists of the following
pieces
</p>
        <ol>
          <li>
            <u>A Resource Model:</u> A set of RESTful APIs for interacting with <a href="http://www.mesh.com/">Live
Mesh</a> and <a href="http://windowslive.com/">Windows Live</a> data. 
</li>
          <li>
            <u>Libraries:</u> A set of libraries for the .NET Framework, Silverlight and Javascript
for accessing the REST APIs. 
</li>
          <li>
            <u>The Live Operating Environment:</u> A local web server that implements #1 above
so it can be programmed against using #2 above. 
</li>
        </ol>
        <h4>The Scary Architecture Diagram
</h4>
        <p>
          <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/livefxposter.pdf">
            <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1poU3JTRFYPtr3GUjpZH2-PBePemVpRR3Yyxab_sPz7mwZFzz18l0Wuzg7TZis_UPWxrcnjp82_2o/liveframework.jpg" />
          </a>
        </p>
        <p>
This diagram tries to capture all the ideas in LiveFX in a single image. I found it
somewhat overwhelming and after learning more about LiveFX I consider it to be a rather
poor way of conveying across its key concepts.  It doesn't help that this diagram
is somewhat <em>aspirational</em> given that some key pieces of the diagram are missing
from the current technology preview.  
</p>
        <h4>The Resource Model
</h4>
        <p>
Live Mesh and Windows Live data is exposed by LiveFX as a set of resources identified
by URIs which can be interacted with via the Atom Publishing Protocol (<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023">RFC
5023</a>). Relationships between resources are exposed as hyperlinks between resources.
The hierarchical data model currently exposed in the CTP is shown in the diagram below
taken from <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137022.aspx">the MSDN
documentation</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pWWC2WGWlmf-BfV_Vts2s-qpygqHbtrizczkJ_sxVHm8pAaM1is9szesTqKiwRLrePW2a_eZNPvk/Dd137022.388f66f0-e190-434f-89f8-030abeca78e8(en-us,MSDN.10)[1].jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
It should be noted that although AtomPub is the primary protocol for interacting with
resources in LiveFX, multiple serialization formats can be used to retrieve data from
the service including Atom, RSS, Plain Old XML (POX), JSON or even binary XML. 
</p>
        <p>
Since LiveFX is a fully compliant implementation of the Atom Publishing Protocol,
one can browse to the <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8">service
document</a> of a user's Mesh or other top level resource and traverse links to various
Atom collections and feeds in the hierarchy. Below is a screenshot of the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199662.aspx">LiveFX
resource browser</a> showing the service document for a user's Mesh with the links
to various child collections exposed as hyperlinks. 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pho5T8W3Nzh_ULVSWtS9oqFCUnUhN4KDB42_2KKag64dvV9EeqAmaAdiCQjmZ1Q7gdrhbaqngJPI/datamodelbrowser2.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
Besides supporting multiple serialization formats, there are a number of other features
of LiveFX that separate it from a vanilla implementation of the Atom Publishing Protocol. 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Synchronization via FeedSync:</u> Mesh resources in LiveFX can be synchronized
using <a href="http://dev.live.com/feedsync/spec/">FeedSync</a> (formerly Simple Sharing
Extensions). FeedSync is a family of extensions to RSS and Atom that enables bidirectional
synchronization of XML feeds and the resources they reference. However synchronization
in LiveFX is based on a client/server model instead of a peer-to-peer model which
means that instead of the server subscribing to changes from the client and vice versa,
clients subscribe to changes from the server and then inform the server when they
make a change. More information about how LiveFX implements FeedSync can be found <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199343.aspx">here</a>. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Query Model and Linq to REST:</u> LiveFX supports the same URI query parameters
for <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199194.aspx">paging</a>, <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd198842.aspx">sorting</a>, <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd198867.aspx">filtering</a> and <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136803.aspx">inline
expansion of linked resources</a> as other Microsoft cloud-based data APIs including
ADO.NET Data Services (formerly Astoria), SQL Server Data Services and Windows Azure
Storage services. One of the benefits of this consistency is that the ADO.NET client
libraries can be used to perform Linq queries over the LiveFX data types using a technology
that has been colloquially described as <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/aconrad/archive/2007/12/10/linq-to-rest.aspx">Linq
to REST</a>. For example, the following C# Linq query actually executes HTTP GET requests
using the $filter parameter under the covers. 
</p>
            <pre class="code">MeshObject GetMeshObjectByTitle(<span style="color: blue">string </span>title)
{ MeshObject meshObject = (<span style="color: blue">from </span>mo <span style="color: blue">in </span>mesh.CreateQuery&lt;MeshObject&gt;() <span style="color: blue">where </span>mo.Resource.Title
== title <span style="color: blue">select </span>mo).FirstOrDefault&lt;MeshObject&gt;(); <span style="color: blue">return </span>meshObject;
}</pre>
            <p>
The HTTP request this makes over the wire is 
</p>
            <blockquote>
              <code>GET https://user-ctp.windows.net/V0.1/Mesh/MeshObjects/{meshObjectID}/DataFeeds/?$filter=(Title
eq ‘WhateverWasPassedIn’)</code>
            </blockquote>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Batch Requests via Resource Scripts:</u> LiveFX supports batching using a construct
known as <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx">resource
scripts</a>. Using resource scripts a developer can submit a single request which
contains multiple create, retrieve, update and delete operations at once. A resource
script consists of a <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#ControlFlowStatements">control
flow statement</a> which can contain one or more <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#ControlFlowStatements">control
flow statements</a>, <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#WebOperationStatements">web
operation statements</a>, <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#SynchronizationStatements">synchronization
statements</a>, <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#DataFlowConstructs">data
flow constructs</a> and <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#DataFlowStatements">data
flow statements</a>.  You can find out more about resource scripts by reading
the document <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/LiveFrameworkResourceScripts.pdf">About
Live Framework Resource Scripts</a> on the LiveFX developer site. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Resource Introspection via OPTIONS:</u> One problem that commonly occurs in REST
APIs is determining which operations a resource supports. Some protocols like OpenSocial
specify a mechanism where <a href="http://www.opensocial.org/Technical-Resources/opensocial-spec-v081/restful-protocol#TOC-6.5-Standard-Query-Parameters">HTTP
responses should indicate which parameters are not supported</a>. The problem with
this approach is that the client has to first make an HTTP request then have it fail
before determining if the feature is supported. LiveFX supports the HTTP OPTIONS verb
on every resource. By performing the following HTTP request
</p>
            <blockquote>
              <code>
                <pre>OPTIONS https:// user-ctp.windows.net/V0.1/{UserID}/Mesh/MeshObjects/{meshObjectID}</pre>
              </code>
            </blockquote>
            <p>
a client can retrieve an <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137144.aspx">introspection
metadata document</a> which describes what query parameters and serialization formats
the resource supports. The $metadata query parameter can also be used to retrieve
the introspection metadata document. This enables clients using libraries that don't
support making HTTP OPTIONS requests to also be able to retrieve introspection metadata. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Support for Portable Contacts:</u> By specifying the parameter <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137202.aspx">$type=portable</a> when
requesting contact data, the results will be returned in the <a href="http://portablecontacts.net/">Portable
Contacts schema format</a> as either JSON or Plain Old XML.  
</p>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <h4>The Libraries
</h4>
        <p>
Like most major Web vendors who have exposed REST APIs, Microsoft has provided client
libraries to make interacting with the LiveFX service more natural for developers
who aren't comfortable programming directly against HTTP. The following client libraries
are provided 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
A generic AtomPub client library for the .NET Framework. Learn more about programming
with it <a title="Using the .NET AtomPub Library" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137315.aspx">here</a>. 
</li>
          <li>
A .NET Framework library which provides a high-level object model for interacting
with the LiveFX service. More details <a title="Using the .NET Libraries" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136352.aspx">here</a>.</li>
          <li>
A Javascript library which provides a high-level object model for interacting with
the LiveFX service. Programming samples can be found <a title="Using the JavaScript Library" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136961.aspx">here</a>.</li>
        </ul>
        <h4>The Live Operating Environment
</h4>
        <p>
The Live Operating Environment refers to two things. The first is the Web platform
upon which the LiveFX REST APIs are implemented. The second is a  local cache
which runs on your PC or other device which exposes the same REST interface as the
LiveFX Web service. This is somewhat similar to <a href="http://gears.google.com/">Google
Gears</a> except that the database is accessed RESTfully instead of via a SQL API. 
</p>
        <p>
The intent of the local version of the Live Operating Environment is to enable developers
to be able to build apps that target the desktop or the Web without having to change
their programming model. All that needs to be altered is changing the base URI from <a href="https://user-ctp.windows.net">https://user-ctp.windows.net</a> to <a href="http://localhost:2048">http://localhost:2048</a> when
accessing LiveFX resources. Everything else works exactly the same. 
</p>
        <h4>The Bottom Line
</h4>
        <p>
As the title of this blog post states there is a lot of similarity in concept between
LiveFX and <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/">Google's Data APIs (GData)</a>.
Like GData, LiveFX provides a consistent set of AtomPub based APIs for accessing resources
from a particular vendor's online services along with a set of client libraries that
wrap these RESTful APIs. And just like GData, there are Microsoft-specific extensions
to the Atom syndication format and custom query parameters for sorting, filtering
and paging.  LiveFX also supports batching like GData, however from my perspective
adding batching to a Web service seems like an attempt to reinvent distributed transactions.
This is a bad idea given the flaws of distributed transactions that are well discussed
in Pat Helland's excellent paper <a href="http://www.cidrdb.org/cidr2007/papers/cidr07p15.pdf">Life
beyond Distributed Transactions: An Apostate's Opinion</a>.  
</p>
        <p>
A number of LiveFX's additional features such as synchronization and resource introspection
which have no analog in GData are fairly interesting and I wouldn't be surprised to
see these ideas get further traction in the industry. On the flip side, the client-side
Live Operating Environment is a technology whose benefits elude me. I admit it is
kind of cool but I can't see its utility. 
</p>
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Legend</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=John Legend+Green Light (feat. Andre 3000)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Green
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      <title>Live Framework (LiveFX), Is it Microsoft's GData or Something More?</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Disclaimer:&lt;/u&gt; What follows are my personal impressions from investigating
the community technology preview version of the Live Framwork (LiveFX). It is not
meant to be an official description of the project from Microsoft, you can find that &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At Microsoft's recent Professional Developer Conference, a new set of Web services
called &lt;em&gt;Live Framework&lt;/em&gt; (aka LiveFX) was unveiled. As I've spent the past year
working on &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/11/13/ComingSoonUpdatedWindowsLiveOnlineServices.aspx"&gt;platforms
for user experiences in Windows Live&lt;/a&gt;, I actually haven't been keeping up to date
with what's going on in developer API land when it comes to programming against our
services. So I decided to check out the &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/"&gt;Live
Framework website&lt;/a&gt; and find out exactly what was announced. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;What is it?
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Although the main website is somewhat light on details, I eventually gleaned enough
information from the &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd156996.aspx"&gt;Live
Framework SDK documentation on MSDN&lt;/a&gt; to conclude that LiveFX consists of the following
pieces
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;A Resource Model:&lt;/u&gt; A set of RESTful APIs for interacting with &lt;a href="http://www.mesh.com/"&gt;Live
Mesh&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://windowslive.com/"&gt;Windows Live&lt;/a&gt; data. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Libraries:&lt;/u&gt; A set of libraries for the .NET Framework, Silverlight and Javascript
for accessing the REST APIs. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;The Live Operating Environment:&lt;/u&gt; A local web server that implements #1 above
so it can be programmed against using #2 above. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Scary Architecture Diagram
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/livefxposter.pdf"&gt;&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1poU3JTRFYPtr3GUjpZH2-PBePemVpRR3Yyxab_sPz7mwZFzz18l0Wuzg7TZis_UPWxrcnjp82_2o/liveframework.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This diagram tries to capture all the ideas in LiveFX in a single image. I found it
somewhat overwhelming and after learning more about LiveFX I consider it to be a rather
poor way of conveying across its key concepts.&amp;#160; It doesn't help that this diagram
is somewhat &lt;em&gt;aspirational&lt;/em&gt; given that some key pieces of the diagram are missing
from the current technology preview.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Resource Model
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Live Mesh and Windows Live data is exposed by LiveFX as a set of resources identified
by URIs which can be interacted with via the Atom Publishing Protocol (&lt;a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023"&gt;RFC
5023&lt;/a&gt;). Relationships between resources are exposed as hyperlinks between resources.
The hierarchical data model currently exposed in the CTP is shown in the diagram below
taken from &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137022.aspx"&gt;the MSDN
documentation&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pWWC2WGWlmf-BfV_Vts2s-qpygqHbtrizczkJ_sxVHm8pAaM1is9szesTqKiwRLrePW2a_eZNPvk/Dd137022.388f66f0-e190-434f-89f8-030abeca78e8(en-us,MSDN.10)[1].jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It should be noted that although AtomPub is the primary protocol for interacting with
resources in LiveFX, multiple serialization formats can be used to retrieve data from
the service including Atom, RSS, Plain Old XML (POX), JSON or even binary XML. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Since LiveFX is a fully compliant implementation of the Atom Publishing Protocol,
one can browse to the &lt;a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8"&gt;service
document&lt;/a&gt; of a user's Mesh or other top level resource and traverse links to various
Atom collections and feeds in the hierarchy. Below is a screenshot of the &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199662.aspx"&gt;LiveFX
resource browser&lt;/a&gt; showing the service document for a user's Mesh with the links
to various child collections exposed as hyperlinks. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pho5T8W3Nzh_ULVSWtS9oqFCUnUhN4KDB42_2KKag64dvV9EeqAmaAdiCQjmZ1Q7gdrhbaqngJPI/datamodelbrowser2.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Besides supporting multiple serialization formats, there are a number of other features
of LiveFX that separate it from a vanilla implementation of the Atom Publishing Protocol. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Synchronization via FeedSync:&lt;/u&gt; Mesh resources in LiveFX can be synchronized
using &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/feedsync/spec/"&gt;FeedSync&lt;/a&gt; (formerly Simple Sharing
Extensions). FeedSync is a family of extensions to RSS and Atom that enables bidirectional
synchronization of XML feeds and the resources they reference. However synchronization
in LiveFX is based on a client/server model instead of a peer-to-peer model which
means that instead of the server subscribing to changes from the client and vice versa,
clients subscribe to changes from the server and then inform the server when they
make a change. More information about how LiveFX implements FeedSync can be found &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199343.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Query Model and Linq to REST:&lt;/u&gt; LiveFX supports the same URI query parameters
for &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd199194.aspx"&gt;paging&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd198842.aspx"&gt;sorting&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd198867.aspx"&gt;filtering&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136803.aspx"&gt;inline
expansion of linked resources&lt;/a&gt; as other Microsoft cloud-based data APIs including
ADO.NET Data Services (formerly Astoria), SQL Server Data Services and Windows Azure
Storage services. One of the benefits of this consistency is that the ADO.NET client
libraries can be used to perform Linq queries over the LiveFX data types using a technology
that has been colloquially described as &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/aconrad/archive/2007/12/10/linq-to-rest.aspx"&gt;Linq
to REST&lt;/a&gt;. For example, the following C# Linq query actually executes HTTP GET requests
using the $filter parameter under the covers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;pre class="code"&gt;MeshObject GetMeshObjectByTitle(&lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;string &lt;/span&gt;title)
{ MeshObject meshObject = (&lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;from &lt;/span&gt;mo &lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;in &lt;/span&gt;mesh.CreateQuery&amp;lt;MeshObject&amp;gt;() &lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;where &lt;/span&gt;mo.Resource.Title
== title &lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;select &lt;/span&gt;mo).FirstOrDefault&amp;lt;MeshObject&amp;gt;(); &lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;return &lt;/span&gt;meshObject;
}&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The HTTP request this makes over the wire is 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;code&gt;GET https://user-ctp.windows.net/V0.1/Mesh/MeshObjects/{meshObjectID}/DataFeeds/?$filter=(Title
eq ‘WhateverWasPassedIn’)&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Batch Requests via Resource Scripts:&lt;/u&gt; LiveFX supports batching using a construct
known as &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx"&gt;resource
scripts&lt;/a&gt;. Using resource scripts a developer can submit a single request which
contains multiple create, retrieve, update and delete operations at once. A resource
script consists of a &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#ControlFlowStatements"&gt;control
flow statement&lt;/a&gt; which can contain one or more &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#ControlFlowStatements"&gt;control
flow statements&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#WebOperationStatements"&gt;web
operation statements&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#SynchronizationStatements"&gt;synchronization
statements&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#DataFlowConstructs"&gt;data
flow constructs&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd217638.aspx#DataFlowStatements"&gt;data
flow statements&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160; You can find out more about resource scripts by reading
the document &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/LiveFrameworkResourceScripts.pdf"&gt;About
Live Framework Resource Scripts&lt;/a&gt; on the LiveFX developer site. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Resource Introspection via OPTIONS:&lt;/u&gt; One problem that commonly occurs in REST
APIs is determining which operations a resource supports. Some protocols like OpenSocial
specify a mechanism where &lt;a href="http://www.opensocial.org/Technical-Resources/opensocial-spec-v081/restful-protocol#TOC-6.5-Standard-Query-Parameters"&gt;HTTP
responses should indicate which parameters are not supported&lt;/a&gt;. The problem with
this approach is that the client has to first make an HTTP request then have it fail
before determining if the feature is supported. LiveFX supports the HTTP OPTIONS verb
on every resource. By performing the following HTTP request
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;code&gt; &lt;pre&gt;OPTIONS https:// user-ctp.windows.net/V0.1/{UserID}/Mesh/MeshObjects/{meshObjectID}&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
a client can retrieve an &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137144.aspx"&gt;introspection
metadata document&lt;/a&gt; which describes what query parameters and serialization formats
the resource supports. The $metadata query parameter can also be used to retrieve
the introspection metadata document. This enables clients using libraries that don't
support making HTTP OPTIONS requests to also be able to retrieve introspection metadata. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Support for Portable Contacts:&lt;/u&gt; By specifying the parameter &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137202.aspx"&gt;$type=portable&lt;/a&gt; when
requesting contact data, the results will be returned in the &lt;a href="http://portablecontacts.net/"&gt;Portable
Contacts schema format&lt;/a&gt; as either JSON or Plain Old XML.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Libraries
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Like most major Web vendors who have exposed REST APIs, Microsoft has provided client
libraries to make interacting with the LiveFX service more natural for developers
who aren't comfortable programming directly against HTTP. The following client libraries
are provided 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
A generic AtomPub client library for the .NET Framework. Learn more about programming
with it &lt;a title="Using the .NET AtomPub Library" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd137315.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
A .NET Framework library which provides a high-level object model for interacting
with the LiveFX service. More details &lt;a title="Using the .NET Libraries" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136352.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
A Javascript library which provides a high-level object model for interacting with
the LiveFX service. Programming samples can be found &lt;a title="Using the JavaScript Library" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd136961.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Live Operating Environment
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Live Operating Environment refers to two things. The first is the Web platform
upon which the LiveFX REST APIs are implemented. The second is a&amp;#160; local cache
which runs on your PC or other device which exposes the same REST interface as the
LiveFX Web service. This is somewhat similar to &lt;a href="http://gears.google.com/"&gt;Google
Gears&lt;/a&gt; except that the database is accessed RESTfully instead of via a SQL API. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The intent of the local version of the Live Operating Environment is to enable developers
to be able to build apps that target the desktop or the Web without having to change
their programming model. All that needs to be altered is changing the base URI from &lt;a href="https://user-ctp.windows.net"&gt;https://user-ctp.windows.net&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://localhost:2048"&gt;http://localhost:2048&lt;/a&gt; when
accessing LiveFX resources. Everything else works exactly the same. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Bottom Line
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As the title of this blog post states there is a lot of similarity in concept between
LiveFX and &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/"&gt;Google's Data APIs (GData)&lt;/a&gt;.
Like GData, LiveFX provides a consistent set of AtomPub based APIs for accessing resources
from a particular vendor's online services along with a set of client libraries that
wrap these RESTful APIs. And just like GData, there are Microsoft-specific extensions
to the Atom syndication format and custom query parameters for sorting, filtering
and paging.&amp;#160; LiveFX also supports batching like GData, however from my perspective
adding batching to a Web service seems like an attempt to reinvent distributed transactions.
This is a bad idea given the flaws of distributed transactions that are well discussed
in Pat Helland's excellent paper &lt;a href="http://www.cidrdb.org/cidr2007/papers/cidr07p15.pdf"&gt;Life
beyond Distributed Transactions: An Apostate's Opinion&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A number of LiveFX's additional features such as synchronization and resource introspection
which have no analog in GData are fairly interesting and I wouldn't be surprised to
see these ideas get further traction in the industry. On the flip side, the client-side
Live Operating Environment is a technology whose benefits elude me. I admit it is
kind of cool but I can't see its utility. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
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Legend&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=John Legend+Green Light (feat. Andre 3000)&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Green
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        <p>
About a year ago I wrote up a definition of a social operating system in my post <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/30/TheDifferenceBetweenASocialNetworkSiteASocialGraphApplicationAndASocialOS.aspx">The
Difference between a Social Network Site, a Social Graph Application and a Social
OS</a> which I think is worth revisiting today. In that post I defined a Social OS
as 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>
              <u>Social Operating System:</u> These are a subset of social networking sites.
In fact, the only application in this category today is </em>
            <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">
              <em>Facebook</em>
            </a>
            <em>. 
Before you use your computer, you have to boot your operating system and every interaction
with your PC goes through the OS. However instead of interacting directly with the
OS, most of the time you interact with applications written on top of the OS. Similarly
a Social OS is the primary application you use for interacting with your social circles
on the Web. All your social interactions whether they be hanging out, chatting, playing
games, watching movies, listening to music, engaging in private gossip or public conversations
occurs within this context. This flexibilty is enabled by the fact that the Social
OS is a platform that enables one to build various social graph applications on top
of it.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
In retrospect, the fundamental flaw with this definition is that it encourages services
that want to become social operating systems to aspire to become walled gardens. The
problem with walled gardens on the Web is that they shortchange users. This is because
the Web is about sharing and communicating with people from all over the world while
walled gardens are about limiting you to interacting with people (and content) that
are part of a particular online service or Web site. Thus walled gardens <u>limit</u> their
users. 
</p>
        <p>
Jeremy Zawodny had a great post about this entitled <a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/009417.html">There
is no Web Operating System (or WebOS)</a> where he wrote 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Luckily, two of my coworkers caught on to what I was saying and managed to help
put it into context a bit. First off was Matt McAlister (who runs YDN, the group I
work in). In </em>
            <a href="http://www.mattmcalister.com/blog/2007/08/15/187/the-business-of-network-effects/">
              <em>The
Business of Network Effects</em>
            </a>
            <em> he does a good job of explaining how businesses
and services in a network are fundamentally different from those which are isolated
islands.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Recalling a brief conversation we had a couple weeks ago, he says:</em>
          </p>
          <blockquote>
            <em>Jeremy Zawodny shed light on this concept for me using building construction
analogies.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote>
            <em>He noted that my building contractor
doesn't exclusively buy Makita or DeWalt or Ryobi tools, though some tools make more
sense in bundles. He buys the tool that is best for the job and what he needs.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote>
            <em>My
contractor doesn't employ plumbers, roofers and electricians himself. Rather he maintains
a network of favorite providers who will serve different needs on different jobs.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote>
            <em>He
provides value to me as an experienced distribution and aggregation point, but I am
not exclusively tied to using him for everything I want to do with my house, either.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <blockquote>
            <em>Similarly,
the Internet market is a network of services. The trick to understanding what the
business model looks like is figuring out how to open and connect services in ways
that add value to the business.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Bingo.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>The web is a marketplace of services, just like the "real world" is.
Everyone is free to choose from all the available services when building or doing
whatever it is they do. The web just happens to be a far more efficient marketplace
than the real world for many things. And it happens to run on computers that each
need an operating system.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>But nobody ever talks about a "Wall Street Operating System" or a "Small
Business Operating System" do they? Why not?</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Ian Kennedy followed up to Matt's post with </em>
            <a href="http://everwas.com/2007/08/the-web-as-a-loose-federation-of-contractors.html">
              <em>The
Web as a Loose Federation of Contractors</em>
            </a>
            <em> in which he says:</em>
          </p>
          <blockquote>
            <em>I like Jeremy's illustration - an OS gives you the impression of an
integrated stack which leads to strategies which favor things like user lock-in to
guarantee performance and consistency of experience. If you think of the web as a
loose collections of services that work together on discreet projects, then you start
to think of value in other ways such as making your meta-data as portable and accessible
as possible so it can be accessed over and over again in many different contexts.</em>
          </blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Bingo again.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
No matter how popular a particular website becomes it will not be the only service
used by its customers. So it follows that no matter how popular a social networking
site becomes, it will not be the only social networking service used by its customers
or their friends. Thus a true Social Operating System shouldn't be about creating
a prettier walled garden than your competitors but instead about making sure you can
bring together all of a user's social experiences together regardless of whether they
are on your site or on those of a competing service. If I use <a href="http://www.twitter.com">Twitter</a> and
my wife doesn't, I'd like her to know what I'm doing via the service even though she
isn't a Twitter user. If my friends use <a href="http://www.yelp.com">Yelp</a> to
recommend restaurants in the area, I'd like to find out about the restaurants even
though I'm not a Yelp user. And so on. 
</p>
        <p>
With the latest release of Windows Live, we're working towards bringing this vision
one step closer to reality. You can read more about it <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-12WinLiveServicesPR.mspx">in
the official announcement</a> and the <a title="Windows Live – Keeping your life in sync" href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!17757.entry">accompanying
blog post</a>. I guess the statement <a href="http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/09/18/windows-life-without-walls.aspx">"life
without walls"</a> also applies to Windows Live. <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="http://shared.live.com/s7gl5EMEJP0VLJFPoPGgTw/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" /></p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=T-Pain&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">T-Pain</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=T-Pain+Chopped N Skrewed (Feat. Ludacris)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Chopped
N Skrewed (Feat. Ludacris)</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Some Thoughts on Walled Gardens and Social Operating Systems</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:30:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
About a year ago I wrote up a definition of a social operating system in my post &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/30/TheDifferenceBetweenASocialNetworkSiteASocialGraphApplicationAndASocialOS.aspx"&gt;The
Difference between a Social Network Site, a Social Graph Application and a Social
OS&lt;/a&gt; which I think is worth revisiting today. In that post I defined a Social OS
as 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Social Operating System:&lt;/u&gt; These are a subset of social networking sites.
In fact, the only application in this category today is &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Facebook&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&amp;#160;
Before you use your computer, you have to boot your operating system and every interaction
with your PC goes through the OS. However instead of interacting directly with the
OS, most of the time you interact with applications written on top of the OS. Similarly
a Social OS is the primary application you use for interacting with your social circles
on the Web. All your social interactions whether they be hanging out, chatting, playing
games, watching movies, listening to music, engaging in private gossip or public conversations
occurs within this context. This flexibilty is enabled by the fact that the Social
OS is a platform that enables one to build various social graph applications on top
of it.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
In retrospect, the fundamental flaw with this definition is that it encourages services
that want to become social operating systems to aspire to become walled gardens. The
problem with walled gardens on the Web is that they shortchange users. This is because
the Web is about sharing and communicating with people from all over the world while
walled gardens are about limiting you to interacting with people (and content) that
are part of a particular online service or Web site. Thus walled gardens &lt;u&gt;limit&lt;/u&gt; their
users. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jeremy Zawodny had a great post about this entitled &lt;a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/009417.html"&gt;There
is no Web Operating System (or WebOS)&lt;/a&gt; where he wrote 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Luckily, two of my coworkers caught on to what I was saying and managed to help
put it into context a bit. First off was Matt McAlister (who runs YDN, the group I
work in). In &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mattmcalister.com/blog/2007/08/15/187/the-business-of-network-effects/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The
Business of Network Effects&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; he does a good job of explaining how businesses
and services in a network are fundamentally different from those which are isolated
islands.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Recalling a brief conversation we had a couple weeks ago, he says:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jeremy Zawodny shed light on this concept for me using building construction
analogies.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;He noted that my building contractor
doesn't exclusively buy Makita or DeWalt or Ryobi tools, though some tools make more
sense in bundles. He buys the tool that is best for the job and what he needs.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;My
contractor doesn't employ plumbers, roofers and electricians himself. Rather he maintains
a network of favorite providers who will serve different needs on different jobs.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;He
provides value to me as an experienced distribution and aggregation point, but I am
not exclusively tied to using him for everything I want to do with my house, either.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Similarly,
the Internet market is a network of services. The trick to understanding what the
business model looks like is figuring out how to open and connect services in ways
that add value to the business.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Bingo.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The web is a marketplace of services, just like the &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot; is.
Everyone is free to choose from all the available services when building or doing
whatever it is they do. The web just happens to be a far more efficient marketplace
than the real world for many things. And it happens to run on computers that each
need an operating system.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;But nobody ever talks about a &amp;quot;Wall Street Operating System&amp;quot; or a &amp;quot;Small
Business Operating System&amp;quot; do they? Why not?&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Ian Kennedy followed up to Matt's post with &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://everwas.com/2007/08/the-web-as-a-loose-federation-of-contractors.html"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The
Web as a Loose Federation of Contractors&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; in which he says:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I like Jeremy's illustration - an OS gives you the impression of an
integrated stack which leads to strategies which favor things like user lock-in to
guarantee performance and consistency of experience. If you think of the web as a
loose collections of services that work together on discreet projects, then you start
to think of value in other ways such as making your meta-data as portable and accessible
as possible so it can be accessed over and over again in many different contexts.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Bingo again.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
No matter how popular a particular website becomes it will not be the only service
used by its customers. So it follows that no matter how popular a social networking
site becomes, it will not be the only social networking service used by its customers
or their friends. Thus a true Social Operating System shouldn't be about creating
a prettier walled garden than your competitors but instead about making sure you can
bring together all of a user's social experiences together regardless of whether they
are on your site or on those of a competing service. If I use &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; and
my wife doesn't, I'd like her to know what I'm doing via the service even though she
isn't a Twitter user. If my friends use &lt;a href="http://www.yelp.com"&gt;Yelp&lt;/a&gt; to
recommend restaurants in the area, I'd like to find out about the restaurants even
though I'm not a Yelp user. And so on. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With the latest release of Windows Live, we're working towards bringing this vision
one step closer to reality. You can read more about it &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-12WinLiveServicesPR.mspx"&gt;in
the official announcement&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a title="Windows Live – Keeping your life in sync" href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!17757.entry"&gt;accompanying
blog post&lt;/a&gt;. I guess the statement &lt;a href="http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/09/18/windows-life-without-walls.aspx"&gt;&amp;quot;life
without walls&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; also applies to Windows Live. &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="http://shared.live.com/s7gl5EMEJP0VLJFPoPGgTw/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=T-Pain&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;T-Pain&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=T-Pain+Chopped N Skrewed (Feat. Ludacris)&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Chopped
N Skrewed (Feat. Ludacris)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Windows Live</category>
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        <p>
From the Microsoft press release <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-12WinLiveServicesPR.mspx">Microsoft
Introduces Updated Windows Live Service</a> we learn
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>
              <b>REDMOND, Wash. — Nov. 12, 2008 —</b> Microsoft Corp. today announced the next
generation of Windows Live, an integrated set of online services that make it easier
and more fun for consumers to communicate and share with the people they care about
most. The new generation of Windows Live includes updated experiences for photo sharing,
e-mail, instant messaging, as well as integration with multiple third-party sites.
The release also includes Windows Live Essentials, free downloadable software that
enhances consumers’ Windows experience by helping them simplify and enjoy digital
content scattered across their PC, phone and on Web sites. For more information about
windows live go to </em>
            <a href="http://www.windowslive.com/">
              <em>http://www.windowslive.com</em>
            </a>
            <em>. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Consumers today are creating online content and sharing it in many places across
the Web. To help make is simple for the more than 460 million Windows Live customers
to keep their friends up to date, <font color="#ff0000">Microsoft is collaborating
with leading companies including Flickr, LinkedIn Corp., Pandora Media Inc., Photobucket
Inc., Twitter, WordPress and Yelp Inc. to integrate activities on third-party sites
into Windows Live through a new profile and What’s New feed.</font> The new Windows
Live also gives consumers the added convenience of having a central place to organize
and manage information.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
It's really exciting to know that hundreds of millions of people will soon be able
to take advantage of what we've been thinking about and working on over the past year.
I plan to hold my tongue until everyone can play with the new version themselves.
For now I'll leave some links and screenshots from various blogs showing our baby
off.
</p>
        <p>
From TechCrunch: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/sweeping-changes-at-livecom-its-a-social-network/">Sweeping
Changes At Live.com: It’s A Social Network!</a></p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew%5B1%5D.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
From Windows Live Wire:<a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!17757.entry">Windows
Live – Keeping your life in sync</a></p>
        <p>
 <img src="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER" width="600" height="537" /></p>
        <p>
From Mary Jo Foley on All About Microsoft: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1714">Windows
Live Wave 3: Microsoft’s kinder and simpler consumer services strategy?</a></p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pRZXb9N6K-3SkJk79rQy22mzwqjlMGW0r9YG4MosodyRdK2PdymG8gWHz8cocqmV4YLSZ9xsJT8Z6uWPdHrr7Bw/windows-live-home%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="646" />
        </p>
        <p>
        </p>
        <p>
From Kara Swisher on BoomTown: <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081112/microsoft-officially-facebooks-oops-socializes-windows-live-internet-services/">Microsoft
Officially Facebooks, Oops, Socializes Windows Live Internet Services</a></p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pqQWJELAHNmiuHn0QAH_437IUxmTr49qzVri869QoIHbxbmgydSDRv4pDf2wpG1dzuisyGB36tPhFoc35qIaNDg/windows-live-web-activites%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="418" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="407" />
        </p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Terence Trent D'Arby&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Terence
Trent D'Arby</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Terence Trent D'Arby+Sign Your Name&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Sign
Your Name</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Coming Soon: Updated Windows Live Online Services</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:06:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
From the Microsoft press release &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-12WinLiveServicesPR.mspx"&gt;Microsoft
Introduces Updated Windows Live Service&lt;/a&gt; we learn
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;REDMOND, Wash. — Nov. 12, 2008 —&lt;/b&gt; Microsoft Corp. today announced the next
generation of Windows Live, an integrated set of online services that make it easier
and more fun for consumers to communicate and share with the people they care about
most. The new generation of Windows Live includes updated experiences for photo sharing,
e-mail, instant messaging, as well as integration with multiple third-party sites.
The release also includes Windows Live Essentials, free downloadable software that
enhances consumers’ Windows experience by helping them simplify and enjoy digital
content scattered across their PC, phone and on Web sites. For more information about
windows live go to &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.windowslive.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;http://www.windowslive.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Consumers today are creating online content and sharing it in many places across
the Web. To help make is simple for the more than 460 million Windows Live customers
to keep their friends up to date, &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Microsoft is collaborating
with leading companies including Flickr, LinkedIn Corp., Pandora Media Inc., Photobucket
Inc., Twitter, WordPress and Yelp Inc. to integrate activities on third-party sites
into Windows Live through a new profile and What’s New feed.&lt;/font&gt; The new Windows
Live also gives consumers the added convenience of having a central place to organize
and manage information.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
It's really exciting to know that hundreds of millions of people will soon be able
to take advantage of what we've been thinking about and working on over the past year.
I plan to hold my tongue until everyone can play with the new version themselves.
For now I'll leave some links and screenshots from various blogs showing our baby
off.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From TechCrunch: &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/sweeping-changes-at-livecom-its-a-social-network/"&gt;Sweeping
Changes At Live.com: It’s A Social Network!&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH6KH_dM9gmgYpsgLvrGNQmc00gg6N-hKBNPueoBBSPggiBzK9K0U3YCzT09Eje1zqgRQRf3JOJoTiEzbMVMfSg/livenew%5B1%5D.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From Windows Live Wire:&lt;a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!17757.entry"&gt;Windows
Live – Keeping your life in sync&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;#160;&lt;img src="http://xpmtog.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p6tb-sty2sx5Yl6_Khy1GLvTv3mFzhOqi6vyEiEkvzA37TgRMNVIryBCANqTVHog5QjXBr28zssw?PARTNER=WRITER" width="600" height="537" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From Mary Jo Foley on All About Microsoft: &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1714"&gt;Windows
Live Wave 3: Microsoft’s kinder and simpler consumer services strategy?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pRZXb9N6K-3SkJk79rQy22mzwqjlMGW0r9YG4MosodyRdK2PdymG8gWHz8cocqmV4YLSZ9xsJT8Z6uWPdHrr7Bw/windows-live-home%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="646" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From Kara Swisher on BoomTown: &lt;a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081112/microsoft-officially-facebooks-oops-socializes-windows-live-internet-services/"&gt;Microsoft
Officially Facebooks, Oops, Socializes Windows Live Internet Services&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pqQWJELAHNmiuHn0QAH_437IUxmTr49qzVri869QoIHbxbmgydSDRv4pDf2wpG1dzuisyGB36tPhFoc35qIaNDg/windows-live-web-activites%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="418" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://5hjm4a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1peC2unWfVEexsR6eFquXGXajMH4_h5gkWGvfURhnoG9u2_o4scgCWNi4EzxHvoVIrRwFfHc9pePgfJul7TN3UtA/windows-live-groups%5B1%5D.jpg" width="600" height="407" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Terence Trent D'Arby&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Terence
Trent D'Arby&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Terence Trent D'Arby+Sign Your Name&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Sign
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          <em>
            <u>Disclaimer:</u> What follows are my personal impressions from using the beta
version of Windows Azure. It is not meant to be an official description of the project
from Microsoft, you can find that <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure">here</a>.</em> 
</p>
        <p>
Earlier this week I scored an invite to try out the beta version of <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/">Windows
Azure</a> which is a new hosted services (aka cloud computing) platform from Microsoft.
Since there's been <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/081027/h2225">a ridiculous amount
of press</a> about the project I was interested in actually trying it out by developing
and deploying some code using this platform and sharing my experiences with others. 
</p>
        <h4>What is it?
</h4>
        <p>
Before talking about a cloud computing platform, it is useful to agree on definitions
of the term <em>cloud computing</em>. Tim O'Reilly has an excellent post entitled <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/10/web-20-and-cloud-computing.html">Web
2.0 and Cloud Computing</a> where he breaks the technologies typically described as
cloud computing into three broad categories 
</p>
        <ol>
          <li>
            <u>Utility Computing:</u> In this approach, a vendor provides access to virtual server
instances where each instance runs a traditional server operating system such as Linux
or Windows Server. Computation and storage resources are metered and the customer
can "scale infinitely" by simply creating new server instances. The most
popular example of this approach is <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2">Amazon EC2</a>. 
</li>
          <li>
            <u>Platform as a Service:</u> In this approach, a vendor abstracts away the notion
of accessing traditional 
<abbr title="Linux Apache MySQL PHP/Perl/Python">
LAMP
</abbr>
or 
<abbr title="Windows IIS SQL Server C#">
WISC
</abbr>
stacks from their customers and instead provides an environment for running programs
written using a particular platform. In addition, data storage is provided via a custom
storage layer and API instead of traditional relational database access. The most
popular example of this approach is <a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/">Google
App Engine</a>. 
</li>
          <li>
            <u>Cloud-based end user applications:</u> This typically refers to Web-based applications
that have previously been provided as desktop or server based applications. Examples
include <a href="http://docs.google.com/">Google Docs</a>, <a href="http://www.salesforce.com/">Salesforce</a> and <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">Hotmail</a>.
Technically every Web application falls under this category, however the term often
isn't used that inclusively. 
</li>
        </ol>
        <p>
With these definitions clearly stated it is easier to talk about what Windows Azure
is and is not. Windows Azure is currently #2; a Platform as a Service offering. Although
there have been numerous references to Amazon's offerings both by Microsoft and bloggers
covering the Azure announcements, Windows Azure is not a utility computing offering
[as defined above]. 
</p>
        <p>
There has definitely been some confusion about this as evidenced by Dave Winer's post <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/10/27/microsoftsCloudStrategy.html">Microsoft's
cloud strategy?</a> and commentary from other sources. 
</p>
        <h4>Getting Started
</h4>
        <p>
To try out Azure you need to be running Windows Server 2008 or Windows Vista with
a bunch of prerequisites you can get from running the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/web/channel/products/WebPlatformInstaller.aspx">Microsoft
Web Platform installer</a>. Once you have the various prerequisites installed (SQL
Server, IIS 7, .NET Framework 3.5, etc) you should then grab the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=BB893FB0-AD04-4FE8-BB04-0C5E4278D3E9&amp;displaylang=en">Windows
Azure SDK</a>. Users of Visual Studio will also benefit from grabbing the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=63D0D248-1B08-4F7D-ABDE-62EB75CB1E69&amp;displaylang=en">Windows
Azure Tools for Visual Studio</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
After this process, you should be able to fire up Visual Studio and see the option
to create a Cloud Service if you go to File-&gt;New-&gt;Project. 
</p>
        <h4>Building Cloud-based Applications with Azure
</h4>
        <p>
The diagram below taken from the Windows Azure SDK shows the key participants in a
typical Windows Azure service
</p>
        <p>
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        </p>
        <p>
        </p>
        <p>
The work units that make up a Windows Azure hosted service can have one of two roles.
A Web role is an application that listens for and responds to Web requests while a
Worker role is a background processing task which acts autonomously but cannot be
accessed over the Web. A Windows Azure application can have multiple instances of
Web and Worker roles that make up the service. For example, if I was developing a
Web-based RSS reader I would need a worker role for polling feeds and Web role for
displaying the UI that the user interacts with. Both Web and Worker roles are .NET
applications that can be developed locally and then deployed on Microsoft's servers
when they are ready to go. 
</p>
        <p>
Azure applications have access to a storage layer that provides the following three
storage services 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Blob Storage:</u> This is used for storing binary data. A user account can have
one or more containers which in turn can contain one or more blobs of binary data.
Containers cannot be nested so one cannot create hierarchical folder structures. However
Azure allows applications to work around this by (i) allowing applications to query
containers based on substring matching on prefixes and (ii) delimiters such as '\'
and other path characters are valid blob names. So I can create blobs with names like
'mypics\wife.jpg' and 'mypics\son.jpg' in the media container and then query for blobs
beginning with 'mypics\' thus simulating a folder hierarchy somewhat.  
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Queue Service:</u> This is a straightforward message queuing service. A user account
can have one or more queues from which they can add items to the end of each queue
and remove items from the front. Items have a maximum time-to-live of 7 days within
the queue. When an item is retrieved from the queue, an associated 'pop receipt' is
provided. The item is then hidden from other client applications until some interval
(by default 30 seconds) has passed after which the item becomes visible. The item
can be deleted from the queue during that interval if the pop receipt from when it
was retrieved is provided as part of the DELETE operation.  The queue service
is valuable as a way for Web roles to talk to Worker roles and vice versa. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Table Storage:</u> This exposes a subset of the capabilities of the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668792.aspx">ADO.NET
Data Services Framework</a> (aka Astoria). In general, this is a schema-less table
based model similar to <a href="http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html">Google's
BigTable</a> and <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/">Amazon's SimpleDB</a>.
The data model consists of tables and entities (aka rows). Each entity has a primary
key made of two parts {PartitionKey, RowKey}, a last modified timestamp and an arbitrary
number of user-defined properties. Properties can be one of several primitive types
including integer, strings, doubles, long integers, GUIDs, booleans and binary. Like
Astoria, the Table Storage service supports performing LINQ queries on rows but only
supports the FROM, WHERE and TAKE operators. Other differences from Astoria are that
it doesn't support batch operations nor is it possible to retrieve individual properties
from an entity without retrieving the entire entity. 
</p>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <p>
These storage services are accessible to any HTTP client and not just Azure applications.  
</p>
        <h4>Deploying Cloud-based Applications with Azure
</h4>
        <p>
The following diagram taken from the Windows Azure SDK shows the development lifecycle
of an Windows Azure application
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pQbWsn6JW6oiwlOTaUOOov84uvuZdsN8NBA3buNdVJBoWO26NSkThZYK2KtXa3Si_FJgPfb3Plts/Azure Deployment.jpg" />  
</p>
        <p>
        </p>
        <p>
The SDK ships with a development fabric which enables you to deploy an Azure an application
locally via IIS 7.0 and development storage which uses SQL Server Express as a storage
layer which mimics the Windows Azure storage services. 
</p>
        <p>
As the diagram shows above, once the application is tested locally it can be deployed
entirely or in part on Microsoft's storage and cloud computation services. 
</p>
        <h4>The Azure Services Platform: Windows Azure + Microsoft's Family of REST Web Services
</h4>
        <p>
In addition to Windows Azure, Microsoft also announced the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/services.mspx">Azure
Services Platform</a> which is a variety of Web APIs and Web Services that can be
used in combination with Windows Azure (or by themselves) to build cloud-based applications.
Each of these Web services is worthy of its own post (or whitepaper and O'Reilly animal
book) but I'll limit myself to one sentence descriptions for now. 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Live Services:</u> A set of REST APIs for consumer-centric data types (e.g. calendar,
profile, etc) and scenarios (communication, presence, sync, etc). You can see the
set of APIs in the <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/livefxposter.pdf">Live
Framework poster</a> and keep up with the goings on by following the <a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/">Live
Services blogs</a>. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Microsoft SQL Services</u>: Relational database in the cloud accessible via REST
APIs. You can learn more from the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/dataservices/default.aspx">SSDS
developer center</a> and keep up with the goings on by following the <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ssds/">SQL
Server Data Services team blog</a>. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Microsoft .NET Services:</u> Three fairly different services for now; hosted access
control, hosted workflow engine and a service bus in the cloud. Boring enterprise
stuff. :)  
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Microsoft Sharepoint Services:</u> I couldn't figure out if anything concrete was
announced here or whether stuff was pre-announced (i.e. actual announcement to come
at a later date).
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <p>
              <u>Microsoft Dynamics CRM Services:</u> Ditto. 
</p>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <p>
From the above list, I find the Live Services piece (access to user data in a uniform
way) and the SQL Services (hosted storage) most interesting. I will likely revisit
them in more depth at a later date. 
</p>
        <h4>The Bottom Line
</h4>
        <p>
From my perspective, Windows Azure is easiest viewed as a competitor to <a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/">Google
App Engine</a>. As comparisons go, Azure already brings a number of features to the
table that aren't even on the <a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html">Google
App Engine road map</a>. The key important feature is the ability to run background
tasks instead of just being limited to writing applications that respond to Web requests.
This limitation of App Engine means you can't write any application that does any
serious background computation like a search engine, email service, or RSS reader
on Google App Engine. So Azure can run an entire class of applications that are simply <u>not
possible</u> on Google App Engine. 
</p>
        <p>
The second key feature is that by supporting the .NET Framework, developers <em>theoretically</em> get
a plethora of languages to choose from including Ruby (IronRuby), Python (IronPython),
F#, VB.NET and C#. In practice, the Azure SDK only supports creating cloud applications
using C# and VB.NET out of the box. However I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
be able to support development with other .NET enabled languages like IronPython.
On the flipside, App Engine only supports Python and the timeline for it supporting
other languages [and exactly which other languages] is still To Be Determined. 
</p>
        <p>
Finally, <a title="High Scalability: Google AppEngine - A Second Look" href="http://highscalability.com/google-appengine-second-look">App
Engine has a number of scalability limitations</a> both from a data storage and a
query performance perspective. Azure definitely does better than App Engine on a number
of these axes. For example, <a title="Understanding Application Quotas with Google App Engine" href="http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/quotas.html">App
Engine has a 1MB limit per file</a> while Azure has a 64MB limit on individual blobs
and also allows you to split a blob into blocks of 4MB each. Similarly, I've been
watching <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/dataservices/default.aspx">SQL
Server Data Services (SSDS)</a> for a while and I haven't seen or heard complaints
about query performance. 
</p>
        <p>
Azure makes it possible for me to reuse my existing skills as a .NET developer who
is savvy with using RESTful APIs to build cloud based applications without having
to worry about scalability concerns (e.g. database sharding, replication strategies,
server failover, etc). In addition, it puts pressure on competitors to step up to
the plate and deliver. However you look at it, this is a massive WIN for Web developers. 
</p>
        <p>
The two small things I'd love to see addressed are first class support for IronPython
and some clarity on the difference between SSDS and Windows Azure Storage services.
Hopefully we can avoid a <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/adonet/archive/2008/10/31/clarifying-the-message-on-l2s-futures.aspx">LINQ
to Entities vs. LINQ to SQL</a>-style situation in the future. 
</p>
        <h4>Postscript: Food for Thought
</h4>
        <p>
It would be interesting to read [or write] further thoughts on the pros and cons of
Platform as a Service offerings when compared to Utility Computing offerings. In a <a title="Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life: Cloud Computing and Vendor Lock-In" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/CommentView.aspx?guid=8d0777b1-d74a-482e-805f-55f1af6880a8#commentstart">previous
discussion on my blog</a> there was some consensus that utility computing approaches
are more resistant to vendor lock-in than platform as a service approaches since it
is easier to find multiple vendors who are providing virtual servers with LAMP/WISC
hosting than it will be to find multiple vendors providing the exact same proprietary
cloud APIs as Google, Amazon or Microsoft. However it would be informative to look
at the topic from more angles, for instance what is the cost/benefit tradeoff of using
SimpleDB/BigTable/SSDS for data access instead of MySQL running on multiple virtual
hosts? With my paternity leave ending today, I doubt I'll have time to go over these
topics in depth but I'd appreciate reading any such analysis. 
</p>
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      <title>Windows Azure from a Developer's Perspective</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Disclaimer:&lt;/u&gt; What follows are my personal impressions from using the beta
version of Windows Azure. It is not meant to be an official description of the project
from Microsoft, you can find that &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;#160;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Earlier this week I scored an invite to try out the beta version of &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/"&gt;Windows
Azure&lt;/a&gt; which is a new hosted services (aka cloud computing) platform from Microsoft.
Since there's been &lt;a href="http://www.techmeme.com/081027/h2225"&gt;a ridiculous amount
of press&lt;/a&gt; about the project I was interested in actually trying it out by developing
and deploying some code using this platform and sharing my experiences with others. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;What is it?
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Before talking about a cloud computing platform, it is useful to agree on definitions
of the term &lt;em&gt;cloud computing&lt;/em&gt;. Tim O'Reilly has an excellent post entitled &lt;a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/10/web-20-and-cloud-computing.html"&gt;Web
2.0 and Cloud Computing&lt;/a&gt; where he breaks the technologies typically described as
cloud computing into three broad categories 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Utility Computing:&lt;/u&gt; In this approach, a vendor provides access to virtual server
instances where each instance runs a traditional server operating system such as Linux
or Windows Server. Computation and storage resources are metered and the customer
can &amp;quot;scale infinitely&amp;quot; by simply creating new server instances. The most
popular example of this approach is &lt;a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2"&gt;Amazon EC2&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Platform as a Service:&lt;/u&gt; In this approach, a vendor abstracts away the notion
of accessing traditional 
&lt;abbr title="Linux Apache MySQL PHP/Perl/Python"&gt;
LAMP
&lt;/abbr&gt;
or 
&lt;abbr title="Windows IIS SQL Server C#"&gt;
WISC
&lt;/abbr&gt;
stacks from their customers and instead provides an environment for running programs
written using a particular platform. In addition, data storage is provided via a custom
storage layer and API instead of traditional relational database access. The most
popular example of this approach is &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/"&gt;Google
App Engine&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Cloud-based end user applications:&lt;/u&gt; This typically refers to Web-based applications
that have previously been provided as desktop or server based applications. Examples
include &lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/"&gt;Google Docs&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.salesforce.com/"&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.hotmail.com"&gt;Hotmail&lt;/a&gt;.
Technically every Web application falls under this category, however the term often
isn't used that inclusively. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With these definitions clearly stated it is easier to talk about what Windows Azure
is and is not. Windows Azure is currently #2; a Platform as a Service offering. Although
there have been numerous references to Amazon's offerings both by Microsoft and bloggers
covering the Azure announcements, Windows Azure is not a utility computing offering
[as defined above]. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There has definitely been some confusion about this as evidenced by Dave Winer's post &lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/10/27/microsoftsCloudStrategy.html"&gt;Microsoft's
cloud strategy?&lt;/a&gt; and commentary from other sources. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Getting Started
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To try out Azure you need to be running Windows Server 2008 or Windows Vista with
a bunch of prerequisites you can get from running the &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/web/channel/products/WebPlatformInstaller.aspx"&gt;Microsoft
Web Platform installer&lt;/a&gt;. Once you have the various prerequisites installed (SQL
Server, IIS 7, .NET Framework 3.5, etc) you should then grab the &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=BB893FB0-AD04-4FE8-BB04-0C5E4278D3E9&amp;amp;displaylang=en"&gt;Windows
Azure SDK&lt;/a&gt;. Users of Visual Studio will also benefit from grabbing the &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=63D0D248-1B08-4F7D-ABDE-62EB75CB1E69&amp;amp;displaylang=en"&gt;Windows
Azure Tools for Visual Studio&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
After this process, you should be able to fire up Visual Studio and see the option
to create a Cloud Service if you go to File-&amp;gt;New-&amp;gt;Project. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Building Cloud-based Applications with Azure
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The diagram below taken from the Windows Azure SDK shows the key participants in a
typical Windows Azure service
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1plCnU_252ak7bWiCp9S8PNV-snsMvHmGH9Xa1x2ZfRLBwDLRnHxO_1R7Y3ZmdXLgluhhr-C6Lw5k/Azure.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The work units that make up a Windows Azure hosted service can have one of two roles.
A Web role is an application that listens for and responds to Web requests while a
Worker role is a background processing task which acts autonomously but cannot be
accessed over the Web. A Windows Azure application can have multiple instances of
Web and Worker roles that make up the service. For example, if I was developing a
Web-based RSS reader I would need a worker role for polling feeds and Web role for
displaying the UI that the user interacts with. Both Web and Worker roles are .NET
applications that can be developed locally and then deployed on Microsoft's servers
when they are ready to go. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Azure applications have access to a storage layer that provides the following three
storage services 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Blob Storage:&lt;/u&gt; This is used for storing binary data. A user account can have
one or more containers which in turn can contain one or more blobs of binary data.
Containers cannot be nested so one cannot create hierarchical folder structures. However
Azure allows applications to work around this by (i) allowing applications to query
containers based on substring matching on prefixes and (ii) delimiters such as '\'
and other path characters are valid blob names. So I can create blobs with names like
'mypics\wife.jpg' and 'mypics\son.jpg' in the media container and then query for blobs
beginning with 'mypics\' thus simulating a folder hierarchy somewhat.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Queue Service:&lt;/u&gt; This is a straightforward message queuing service. A user account
can have one or more queues from which they can add items to the end of each queue
and remove items from the front. Items have a maximum time-to-live of 7 days within
the queue. When an item is retrieved from the queue, an associated 'pop receipt' is
provided. The item is then hidden from other client applications until some interval
(by default 30 seconds) has passed after which the item becomes visible. The item
can be deleted from the queue during that interval if the pop receipt from when it
was retrieved is provided as part of the DELETE operation.&amp;#160; The queue service
is valuable as a way for Web roles to talk to Worker roles and vice versa. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Table Storage:&lt;/u&gt; This exposes a subset of the capabilities of the &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668792.aspx"&gt;ADO.NET
Data Services Framework&lt;/a&gt; (aka Astoria). In general, this is a schema-less table
based model similar to &lt;a href="http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html"&gt;Google's
BigTable&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/"&gt;Amazon's SimpleDB&lt;/a&gt;.
The data model consists of tables and entities (aka rows). Each entity has a primary
key made of two parts {PartitionKey, RowKey}, a last modified timestamp and an arbitrary
number of user-defined properties. Properties can be one of several primitive types
including integer, strings, doubles, long integers, GUIDs, booleans and binary. Like
Astoria, the Table Storage service supports performing LINQ queries on rows but only
supports the FROM, WHERE and TAKE operators. Other differences from Astoria are that
it doesn't support batch operations nor is it possible to retrieve individual properties
from an entity without retrieving the entire entity. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
These storage services are accessible to any HTTP client and not just Azure applications.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Deploying Cloud-based Applications with Azure
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The following diagram taken from the Windows Azure SDK shows the development lifecycle
of an Windows Azure application
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pQbWsn6JW6oiwlOTaUOOov84uvuZdsN8NBA3buNdVJBoWO26NSkThZYK2KtXa3Si_FJgPfb3Plts/Azure Deployment.jpg" /&gt;&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The SDK ships with a development fabric which enables you to deploy an Azure an application
locally via IIS 7.0 and development storage which uses SQL Server Express as a storage
layer which mimics the Windows Azure storage services. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As the diagram shows above, once the application is tested locally it can be deployed
entirely or in part on Microsoft's storage and cloud computation services. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Azure Services Platform: Windows Azure + Microsoft's Family of REST Web Services
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In addition to Windows Azure, Microsoft also announced the &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/services.mspx"&gt;Azure
Services Platform&lt;/a&gt; which is a variety of Web APIs and Web Services that can be
used in combination with Windows Azure (or by themselves) to build cloud-based applications.
Each of these Web services is worthy of its own post (or whitepaper and O'Reilly animal
book) but I'll limit myself to one sentence descriptions for now. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Live Services:&lt;/u&gt; A set of REST APIs for consumer-centric data types (e.g. calendar,
profile, etc) and scenarios (communication, presence, sync, etc). You can see the
set of APIs in the &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveframework/livefxposter.pdf"&gt;Live
Framework poster&lt;/a&gt; and keep up with the goings on by following the &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/"&gt;Live
Services blogs&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Microsoft SQL Services&lt;/u&gt;: Relational database in the cloud accessible via REST
APIs. You can learn more from the &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/dataservices/default.aspx"&gt;SSDS
developer center&lt;/a&gt; and keep up with the goings on by following the &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ssds/"&gt;SQL
Server Data Services team blog&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Microsoft .NET Services:&lt;/u&gt; Three fairly different services for now; hosted access
control, hosted workflow engine and a service bus in the cloud. Boring enterprise
stuff. :)&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Microsoft Sharepoint Services:&lt;/u&gt; I couldn't figure out if anything concrete was
announced here or whether stuff was pre-announced (i.e. actual announcement to come
at a later date).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;u&gt;Microsoft Dynamics CRM Services:&lt;/u&gt; Ditto. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From the above list, I find the Live Services piece (access to user data in a uniform
way) and the SQL Services (hosted storage) most interesting. I will likely revisit
them in more depth at a later date. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;The Bottom Line
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From my perspective, Windows Azure is easiest viewed as a competitor to &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/"&gt;Google
App Engine&lt;/a&gt;. As comparisons go, Azure already brings a number of features to the
table that aren't even on the &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html"&gt;Google
App Engine road map&lt;/a&gt;. The key important feature is the ability to run background
tasks instead of just being limited to writing applications that respond to Web requests.
This limitation of App Engine means you can't write any application that does any
serious background computation like a search engine, email service, or RSS reader
on Google App Engine. So Azure can run an entire class of applications that are simply &lt;u&gt;not
possible&lt;/u&gt; on Google App Engine. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The second key feature is that by supporting the .NET Framework, developers &lt;em&gt;theoretically&lt;/em&gt; get
a plethora of languages to choose from including Ruby (IronRuby), Python (IronPython),
F#, VB.NET and C#. In practice, the Azure SDK only supports creating cloud applications
using C# and VB.NET out of the box. However I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
be able to support development with other .NET enabled languages like IronPython.
On the flipside, App Engine only supports Python and the timeline for it supporting
other languages [and exactly which other languages] is still To Be Determined. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Finally, &lt;a title="High Scalability: Google AppEngine - A Second Look" href="http://highscalability.com/google-appengine-second-look"&gt;App
Engine has a number of scalability limitations&lt;/a&gt; both from a data storage and a
query performance perspective. Azure definitely does better than App Engine on a number
of these axes. For example, &lt;a title="Understanding Application Quotas with Google App Engine" href="http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/quotas.html"&gt;App
Engine has a 1MB limit per file&lt;/a&gt; while Azure has a 64MB limit on individual blobs
and also allows you to split a blob into blocks of 4MB each. Similarly, I've been
watching &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/dataservices/default.aspx"&gt;SQL
Server Data Services (SSDS)&lt;/a&gt; for a while and I haven't seen or heard complaints
about query performance. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Azure makes it possible for me to reuse my existing skills as a .NET developer who
is savvy with using RESTful APIs to build cloud based applications without having
to worry about scalability concerns (e.g. database sharding, replication strategies,
server failover, etc). In addition, it puts pressure on competitors to step up to
the plate and deliver. However you look at it, this is a massive WIN for Web developers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The two small things I'd love to see addressed are first class support for IronPython
and some clarity on the difference between SSDS and Windows Azure Storage services.
Hopefully we can avoid a &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/adonet/archive/2008/10/31/clarifying-the-message-on-l2s-futures.aspx"&gt;LINQ
to Entities vs. LINQ to SQL&lt;/a&gt;-style situation in the future. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Postscript: Food for Thought
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It would be interesting to read [or write] further thoughts on the pros and cons of
Platform as a Service offerings when compared to Utility Computing offerings. In a &lt;a title="Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life: Cloud Computing and Vendor Lock-In" href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/CommentView.aspx?guid=8d0777b1-d74a-482e-805f-55f1af6880a8#commentstart"&gt;previous
discussion on my blog&lt;/a&gt; there was some consensus that utility computing approaches
are more resistant to vendor lock-in than platform as a service approaches since it
is easier to find multiple vendors who are providing virtual servers with LAMP/WISC
hosting than it will be to find multiple vendors providing the exact same proprietary
cloud APIs as Google, Amazon or Microsoft. However it would be informative to look
at the topic from more angles, for instance what is the cost/benefit tradeoff of using
SimpleDB/BigTable/SSDS for data access instead of MySQL running on multiple virtual
hosts? With my paternity leave ending today, I doubt I'll have time to go over these
topics in depth but I'd appreciate reading any such analysis. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
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Game&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=The Game+Money&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Money&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
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        <p>
The second most interesting announcement out of PDC this morning is that <a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/10/27/421.aspx">Windows
Live ID is becoming an OpenID Provider</a>. The information below explains how to
try it out and give feedback to the team responsible. 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <h4>
            <b>
              <em>Try It Now. Tell Us What You Think</em>
            </b>
          </h4>
          <p>
            <em>We want you to try the Windows Live ID OpenID Provider CTP release, let us know
your feedback, and tell us about any problems you find.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>To prepare:</em>
          </p>
          <ol>
            <li>
              <em>G</em>
              <em>o to <a href="https://login.live-int.com/">https://login.live-int.com</a> and
use the sign-up button to set up a Windows Live ID test account in the INT environment</em>
              <em>. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Go to </em>
              <a href="https://login.live-int.com/beta/ManageOpenID.srf">
                <em>https://login.live-int.com/beta/ManageOpenID.srf</em>
              </a>
              <em> to
set up your OpenID test alias. </em>
            </li>
          </ol>
          <p>
            <em>Then:</em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>Users - </b>At any Web site that supports OpenID 2.0, type <b>openid.live-INT.com</b> in
the OpenID login box to sign in to that site by means of your Windows Live ID OpenID
alias. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>Library developers </b>- Test your libraries against the Windows Live ID OP
endpoint and let us know of any problems you find. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>Web site owners </b>- Test signing in to your site by using a Windows Live
ID OpenID alias and let us know of any problems you find. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>You can send us feedback at: </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <b>E-mail</b> - </em>
              <a href="mailto:openidfb@microsoft.com">
                <em>openidfb@microsoft.com</em>
              </a>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
This is awesome news. I've been interested in Windows Live supporting OpenID for a
while and I'm glad to see that we've taken the plunge. Please try it out and send
the team your feedback. 
</p>
        <p>
I've tried it out already and sent some initial feedback. In general, my feedback
was on applying the lessons from the <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/openid/bestpractices.html">Yahoo!
OpenID Usability Study</a> since it looks like our implementation has some of the
same usability issues that inspired <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atwitter.com%2Fcodinghorror+openid+yahoo&amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS281US281">Jeff
Atwood's rants</a> about Yahoo's OpenID implementation. Since it is still a Community
Technology Preview, I'm sure the user experience will improve as feedback trickles
in. 
</p>
        <p>
Kudos to <a href="http://www.thearchitect.co.uk/weblog/">Jorgen Thelin</a> and the
rest of the folks on the Identity Services team for getting this out. Great work,
guys. 
</p>
        <p>
          <b>UPDATE:</b> Angus Logan posted a comment with a link to the following screencast
of the current user experience when using Windows Live ID as an OpenID provider experience
</p>
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Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Christina%20Aguilera&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Christina
Aguilera</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Christina%20Aguilera+Keeps%20Gettin%27%20Better&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Keeps
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      <title>Windows Live is now an OpenID Provider</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
The second most interesting announcement out of PDC this morning is that &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/10/27/421.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live ID is becoming an OpenID Provider&lt;/a&gt;. The information below explains how to
try it out and give feedback to the team responsible. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;h4&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;Try It Now. Tell Us What You Think&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;We want you to try the Windows Live ID OpenID Provider CTP release, let us know
your feedback, and tell us about any problems you find.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;To prepare:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;G&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;o to &lt;a href="https://login.live-int.com/"&gt;https://login.live-int.com&lt;/a&gt; and
use the sign-up button to set up a Windows Live ID test account in the INT environment&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Go to &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="https://login.live-int.com/beta/ManageOpenID.srf"&gt;&lt;em&gt;https://login.live-int.com/beta/ManageOpenID.srf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; to
set up your OpenID test alias. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Then:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Users - &lt;/b&gt;At any Web site that supports OpenID 2.0, type &lt;b&gt;openid.live-INT.com&lt;/b&gt; in
the OpenID login box to sign in to that site by means of your Windows Live ID OpenID
alias. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Library developers &lt;/b&gt;- Test your libraries against the Windows Live ID OP
endpoint and let us know of any problems you find. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Web site owners &lt;/b&gt;- Test signing in to your site by using a Windows Live
ID OpenID alias and let us know of any problems you find. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;You can send us feedback at: &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;E-mail&lt;/b&gt; - &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:openidfb@microsoft.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;openidfb@microsoft.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
This is awesome news. I've been interested in Windows Live supporting OpenID for a
while and I'm glad to see that we've taken the plunge. Please try it out and send
the team your feedback. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I've tried it out already and sent some initial feedback. In general, my feedback
was on applying the lessons from the &lt;a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/openid/bestpractices.html"&gt;Yahoo!
OpenID Usability Study&lt;/a&gt; since it looks like our implementation has some of the
same usability issues that inspired &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atwitter.com%2Fcodinghorror+openid+yahoo&amp;amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS281US281"&gt;Jeff
Atwood's rants&lt;/a&gt; about Yahoo's OpenID implementation. Since it is still a Community
Technology Preview, I'm sure the user experience will improve as feedback trickles
in. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kudos to &lt;a href="http://www.thearchitect.co.uk/weblog/"&gt;Jorgen Thelin&lt;/a&gt; and the
rest of the folks on the Identity Services team for getting this out. Great work,
guys. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;UPDATE:&lt;/b&gt; Angus Logan posted a comment with a link to the following screencast
of the current user experience when using Windows Live ID as an OpenID provider experience
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
Just because you aren't attending Microsoft's Professional Developer Conference doesn't
mean you can't follow the announcements. The most exciting announcement so far [from
my perspective] has been <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/">Windows Azure</a> which
is described as follows from <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/whatisazure.mspx">the
official site</a></p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>The Azure™ Services Platform (Azure) is an internet-scale cloud services platform
hosted in Microsoft data centers, which provides an operating system and a set of
developer services that can be used individually or together. Azure’s flexible and
interoperable platform can be used to build new applications to run from the cloud
or enhance existing applications with cloud-based capabilities. Its open architecture
gives developers the choice to build web applications, applications running on connected
devices, PCs, servers, or hybrid solutions offering the best of online and on-premises.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Azure reduces the need for up-front technology purchases, and it enables developers
to quickly and easily create applications running in the cloud by using their existing
skills with the Microsoft Visual Studio development environment and the Microsoft
.NET Framework. In addition to managed code languages supported by .NET, Azure will
support more programming languages and development environments in the near future.
Azure simplifies maintaining and operating applications by providing on-demand compute
and storage to host, scale, and manage web and connected applications. Infrastructure
management is automated with a platform that is designed for high availability and
dynamic scaling to match usage needs with the option of a pay-as-you-go pricing model.
Azure provides an open, standards-based and interoperable environment with support
for multiple internet protocols, including HTTP, REST, SOAP, and XML.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
It will be interesting to read what developers make of this announcement and what
kind of apps start getting built on this platform. I'll also be on the look out for
any in depth discussions on the platform, there is lots to chew on in this announcement. 
</p>
        <p>
For a quick overview of what Azure means to developers, take a look at <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/business.mspx">Azure
for Business</a> and <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/webdev.mspx">Azure for
Web Developers</a>.  
</p>
        <p>
          <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /> Now
Playing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Guns N' Roses&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Guns
N' Roses</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Guns N' Roses+Welcome to the Jungle&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Welcome
to the Jungle</a><img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /></p>
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      <title>Microsoft Announces Windows Azure</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:39:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Just because you aren't attending Microsoft's Professional Developer Conference doesn't
mean you can't follow the announcements. The most exciting announcement so far [from
my perspective] has been &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/"&gt;Windows Azure&lt;/a&gt; which
is described as follows from &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/whatisazure.mspx"&gt;the
official site&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Azure™ Services Platform (Azure) is an internet-scale cloud services platform
hosted in Microsoft data centers, which provides an operating system and a set of
developer services that can be used individually or together. Azure’s flexible and
interoperable platform can be used to build new applications to run from the cloud
or enhance existing applications with cloud-based capabilities. Its open architecture
gives developers the choice to build web applications, applications running on connected
devices, PCs, servers, or hybrid solutions offering the best of online and on-premises.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Azure reduces the need for up-front technology purchases, and it enables developers
to quickly and easily create applications running in the cloud by using their existing
skills with the Microsoft Visual Studio development environment and the Microsoft
.NET Framework. In addition to managed code languages supported by .NET, Azure will
support more programming languages and development environments in the near future.
Azure simplifies maintaining and operating applications by providing on-demand compute
and storage to host, scale, and manage web and connected applications. Infrastructure
management is automated with a platform that is designed for high availability and
dynamic scaling to match usage needs with the option of a pay-as-you-go pricing model.
Azure provides an open, standards-based and interoperable environment with support
for multiple internet protocols, including HTTP, REST, SOAP, and XML.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
It will be interesting to read what developers make of this announcement and what
kind of apps start getting built on this platform. I'll also be on the look out for
any in depth discussions on the platform, there is lots to chew on in this announcement. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For a quick overview of what Azure means to developers, take a look at &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/business.mspx"&gt;Azure
for Business&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/azure/webdev.mspx"&gt;Azure for
Web Developers&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt; Now
Playing: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Guns N' Roses&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Guns
N' Roses&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Guns N' Roses+Welcome to the Jungle&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Welcome
to the Jungle&lt;/a&gt; &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Note" alt="Note" src="http://shared.live.com/HjKMzTS-xzcms40%21CabizA/emoticons/music_note.gif" /&gt;
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        <p>
A few days ago, Omar Shahine wrote about the new features of Windows Live Calendar
in a post entitled <a title="Windows Live Calendar gets To Dos" href="http://www.shahine.com/omar/WindowsLiveCalendarGetsToDos.aspx">Windows
Live Calendar gets To Dos</a> where he writes 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>At long last, </em>
            <a href="http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49703.entry">
              <em>we
have shipped To Dos</em>
            </a>
            <em>. It’s been a long time since I worked on </em>
            <a href="http://calendar.live.com/">
              <em>Windows
Live Calendar</em>
            </a>
            <em> and we were talking about building To Dos. The best part
about To Dos is that they work with Shared Calendars. In other words, if you and your
spouse have a “Family Calendar” you can now create and manage a shared task list…
something Google Calendar still doesn’t have. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>With the new release of Windows Live Calendar and the new Beta releases of the
Windows Live Suite there is a ton of great end to end Calendar functionality. </em>
          </p>
          <ol>
            <li>
              <strong>
                <a href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx">
                  <em>Outlook
Connector</em>
                </a>
                <em>
                </em>
              </strong>
              <em>to sync all your <strong>Windows Live Calendars</strong> to <strong>Outlook</strong>,
including your <strong>Birthday Calendar</strong> for all your Contacts. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <strong>
                <a href="http://download.live.com/wlmail">
                  <em>Windows Live Mail</em>
                </a>
                <em>
                </em>
              </strong>
              <em>now
with <strong>Calendar Sync</strong> will also sync all your <strong>Windows Live Calendars</strong></em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <strong>Shared Calendars</strong> that you can create, share and manage with other
Windows Live Users </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>
                <strong>Calendar Subscriptions</strong> to public internet calendars that you
can subscribe and sync to all the products above. </em>
            </li>
          </ol>
          <p>
            <em>And of course now To Dos. </em>
            <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/09/17/PublicBetaOfTheLatestWaveOfTheWindowsLiveDesktopSuiteIsNowAvailable.aspx">
              <em>Dare</em>
            </a>
            <em> should
be happy about this. He’ll need it when the baby comes :-).</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
One thing has been frustrating me for months is that there was no easy way to incorporate
shared calendaring into my wife and I's workflow even though we both used calendaring
products from Microsoft. Typically my wife would add an item to her calendar (in Windows
Calendar) and then have to literally tell me about the appointment at which point
I'd either enter it into my Windows Mobile phone which would synchronize it with Outlook
+ Exchange or I'd fire up my laptop and enter it directly into Outlook. The big problem
with this "approach" is when she tells me about something and I don't immediately
enter it into my phone (e.g. when i don't want to be inappropriate at our midwife
appointments) in which case I forget and end up being late or missing shared appointments. 
</p>
        <p>
This has all changed with the usage of two <u>free</u> products from Microsoft. The
first is the <a title="Windows Live Mail Beta Available Today!" href="http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!B7DD1FF3F141F9A1!6476.entry">newest
version of Windows Live Mail</a> (Wave 3 beta) which now has a built in calendar with
synchronizes with <a href="http://calendar.live.com">Windows Live Calendar</a> which
my wife now uses. The second is <a href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx">Microsoft
Office Outlook Connector</a> which allows you to synchronize email with Windows Live
Hotmail and calendars from Windows Live Calendar directly into Outlook which I use
at work. 
</p>
        <p>
Besides installing both pieces of software the only setup step needed was for my wife
to share her calendar with me from Windows Live Calendar. Now that my wife has begun
her maternity leave in preparation for the birth of our son, I'm glad I can fire up
Outlook and see what's going on with her during my work day. For example, looking
in my Outlook calendar for tomorrow shows an appointment I'd almost forgotten
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ppnG9YPYMqlwbZKQMWVxZhX-G_bo8AIhqdbgZv6_JcwTE0-pmgQyAMAr5RHAsBSk1ZXG-AsvZOts/shared calendars.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
That would have been embarrassing. <img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/s7gl5EMEJP0VLJFPoPGgTw/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /></p>
        <p>
          <b>Now Playing:</b>
          <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=Stevie Wonder&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">Stevie
Wonder</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=Stevie Wonder+I Was Made To Love Her&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">I
Was Made To Love Her</a></p>
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      <title>Windows Live + Outlook: Shared Calendaring that Just Works</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:22:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
A few days ago, Omar Shahine wrote about the new features of Windows Live Calendar
in a post entitled &lt;a title="Windows Live Calendar gets To Dos" href="http://www.shahine.com/omar/WindowsLiveCalendarGetsToDos.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Calendar gets To Dos&lt;/a&gt; where he writes 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;At long last, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49703.entry"&gt;&lt;em&gt;we
have shipped To Dos&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. It’s been a long time since I worked on &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://calendar.live.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows
Live Calendar&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and we were talking about building To Dos. The best part
about To Dos is that they work with Shared Calendars. In other words, if you and your
spouse have a “Family Calendar” you can now create and manage a shared task list…
something Google Calendar still doesn’t have. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;With the new release of Windows Live Calendar and the new Beta releases of the
Windows Live Suite there is a ton of great end to end Calendar functionality. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Outlook
Connector&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;to sync all your &lt;strong&gt;Windows Live Calendars&lt;/strong&gt; to &lt;strong&gt;Outlook&lt;/strong&gt;,
including your &lt;strong&gt;Birthday Calendar&lt;/strong&gt; for all your Contacts. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/wlmail"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows Live Mail&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;now
with &lt;strong&gt;Calendar Sync&lt;/strong&gt; will also sync all your &lt;strong&gt;Windows Live Calendars&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Shared Calendars&lt;/strong&gt; that you can create, share and manage with other
Windows Live Users &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Calendar Subscriptions&lt;/strong&gt; to public internet calendars that you
can subscribe and sync to all the products above. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;And of course now To Dos. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/09/17/PublicBetaOfTheLatestWaveOfTheWindowsLiveDesktopSuiteIsNowAvailable.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dare&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; should
be happy about this. He’ll need it when the baby comes :-).&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
One thing has been frustrating me for months is that there was no easy way to incorporate
shared calendaring into my wife and I's workflow even though we both used calendaring
products from Microsoft. Typically my wife would add an item to her calendar (in Windows
Calendar) and then have to literally tell me about the appointment at which point
I'd either enter it into my Windows Mobile phone which would synchronize it with Outlook
+ Exchange or I'd fire up my laptop and enter it directly into Outlook. The big problem
with this &amp;quot;approach&amp;quot; is when she tells me about something and I don't immediately
enter it into my phone (e.g. when i don't want to be inappropriate at our midwife
appointments) in which case I forget and end up being late or missing shared appointments. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This has all changed with the usage of two &lt;u&gt;free&lt;/u&gt; products from Microsoft. The
first is the &lt;a title="Windows Live Mail Beta Available Today!" href="http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!B7DD1FF3F141F9A1!6476.entry"&gt;newest
version of Windows Live Mail&lt;/a&gt; (Wave 3 beta) which now has a built in calendar with
synchronizes with &lt;a href="http://calendar.live.com"&gt;Windows Live Calendar&lt;/a&gt; which
my wife now uses. The second is &lt;a href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx"&gt;Microsoft
Office Outlook Connector&lt;/a&gt; which allows you to synchronize email with Windows Live
Hotmail and calendars from Windows Live Calendar directly into Outlook which I use
at work. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Besides installing both pieces of software the only setup step needed was for my wife
to share her calendar with me from Windows Live Calendar. Now that my wife has begun
her maternity leave in preparation for the birth of our son, I'm glad I can fire up
Outlook and see what's going on with her during my work day. For example, looking
in my Outlook calendar for tomorrow shows an appointment I'd almost forgotten
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://4vwitg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ppnG9YPYMqlwbZKQMWVxZhX-G_bo8AIhqdbgZv6_JcwTE0-pmgQyAMAr5RHAsBSk1ZXG-AsvZOts/shared calendars.jpg" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That would have been embarrassing. &lt;img style="vertical-align: middle" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/s7gl5EMEJP0VLJFPoPGgTw/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Now Playing:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=Stevie Wonder&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;Stevie
Wonder&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=Stevie Wonder+I Was Made To Love Her&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;I
Was Made To Love Her&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img width="0" height="0" src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/aggbug.ashx?id=c4ad7d79-2fe5-4ea7-8cde-ff79300ce82b" /&gt;</description>
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        <p>
Darren Neimke a post entitled <a href="http://neimke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21F964EB605E70A5CA%21300.entry">The
“What’s New” feature in Live Messenger</a> where he gives some feedback on a new feature
of Windows Live Messenger which shows updates from the user's social network at the
bottom of the Messenger window in a slideshow/carousel. Although I don't work on the
Windows Live Messenger team, I did work on the platform that powers this feature and
I am intimately familiar with how it works. So here are his questions and my answers 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pJwvuYJ2tIsVwrHXKpC8LFLhyKMc5Zt2q4O46L9gs9DMKiqu21MQXmTZxpjuV2Rdp?PARTNER=WRITER">
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                <img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pWt1UWm5923IcWclW1JmNitSj9cEOUC-8ihiXzDujhN6D7Bzfzkr2Go35BhBUnfx5kPprNJ8JZfU?PARTNER=WRITER" align="left" border="0" width="315" height="163" />
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          <p>
            <em>The new beta for Windows Live Messenger has given us an interesting new featured
called “What’s new” which displays updates from your friends at the bottom of the
Messenger application.  As you can see from the promotional image for this feature,
it displays Who, What, and When information from your friends updates. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>I really like the idea behind this feature and watching “What’s new” updates has
already led me to information that I might previously have missed.  I would say
that in the current beta, some parts appear not to be working correctly.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
I'm glad to see that bringing activity streams down to the desktop client has led
Darren to find out information about his social network that he would have otherwise
missed. Serendipitous discovery is what this feature is about and its great to see
people getting value out of it within the first few days of using the feature. 
</p>
        <p>
Since this is a beta some features may not seem to work correctly either because we
haven't gotten around to implementing them or because we would like user feedback
on how people expect the features to work. 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>The actual feature as it is installed on my machine does not seem to display the
“When” part of the information as you can see from the following image: </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pbKXLSq7q8z6ef5n3-RjjHwTz3dF89G_t7rKBgYUr4wiqM_5IRzL7iEs-RZJ8PPhqoaFB2D7uuxo?PARTNER=WRITER">
              <em>
                <img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pn-miWSMZ74PH5CObMCTE-wn-5iKJZ_BJo1l__9P-F1fRGDKlItcLoh69sPZzDOd-B97JVsG0mBQ?PARTNER=WRITER" border="0" width="271" height="68" />
              </em>
            </a>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Actually the "When" part of the activity is available in the beta. By default the
"What's New" carousel is in collapsed mode but you can expand it by clicking on the
divider that separates the "What's New" carousel from the contact list as shown below. 
</p>
        <p>
STEP 1: Hover over divider 
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1phz1Gx8Hscgtva10OsxOJ2wEZVFBAPoP5oDaT5wwfA6CBmhSCAFYWz8fWbj7mqCV6wdGa75-7J-c/wn-collapsed.jpg" />
        </p>
        <p>
STEP 2: Click to expand 
</p>
        <p>
 <img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pAFp2BtRNHVO8Cjp3B7HL6o8fsWwkPLoaXfWJqs5xTJba9N6NuRXykAwCvRlMTebR6V9X_DevVO0/wn-expanded.jpg" /></p>
        <p>
As you can see from the screenshot above, the expanded view takes a lot of real estate
from the contact list which is why the default is the collapsed mode. We did have
some concerns that users wouldn't discover that they could expand the carousel which
seems to have been borne out by Darren's assumption that the feature wasn't there. 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Another issue with the status update shown above is that the link that is displayed
does not take me to the post that Jamie commented on.  Instead, it takes me to
Jamie’s profile page.  Probably not what I’d be interested in seeing here as
I’d be much more interested in reading the post and the comment that Jamie made. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Another feature which doesn’t appear to have been implemented as yet is a “Post
a note” link.  Currently this appears as a non-clickable piece of text. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1prtlBxfT_RthFljiRSLe4QbTROATcvKSN7q7txsrpNJ5YDeuWLETde9gOmsRt5Fn6S9z7phFcMXE?PARTNER=WRITER">
              <em>
                <img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pMoajNb17UFDpp-ogmOwqYz3LsIm9-zEc9dKTVcUNNgEmZ-am8eeA7j5zhSa_J6DTh-ErLRm2kv8?PARTNER=WRITER" border="0" width="218" height="68" />
              </em>
            </a>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
The fact that various links don't work in the "What's New" is a known issue. You can
expect that these links should work in subsequent releases. 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>I haven’t really seen much discussion or documentation about the “What’s new”
feature as yet to see what events get added and whether there is an SDK behind all
of this.</em>  
</p>
        </blockquote>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>I’m interested in seeing where this feature goes as it appears to have a lot of
promise.  Overall, I think that the current UX is lacking in some way – most
popular applications that display feeds tend to show more than just a single entry. 
I’m also wondering whether it would make sense to see some sort of provider model
that would allow me to publish updates into the feed somehow.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Jamie Thomson has a blog post on the <a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21550F681DAD532637%215914.entry">new
notification types in the What's New feed</a> where he references the original list
from <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%213C8CA60F8F925FEC%21884.entry">Rob
Dolin</a> who's actually responsible for PMing the content of the feed. There are
also comments from other Windows Live users discussing the kind of updates they've
seen in the feed thus far. I assume Rob is waiting until Wave 3 is final before writing
a post on the various update types that show up in the feed. However it should be
noted that part of the platform work our team did in this release was to make the
process of adding new update types to the feed easier. Thus even if Rob Dolin does
post a list of the current update types in the What's New feed, that list could change
in a matter of days, weeks or months.  
</p>
        <p>
I've thought a little bit about what a public API for interacting with the What's
New feed should be like but I'm currently not sold on whether we should have one and
if so what capabilities it should expose. I'd be interested in hearing more from people
who would be interested in such an SDK. 
</p>
        <p>
          <b>Now Playing:</b>
          <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;unfiltered=1&amp;field-keywords=&amp;field-artist=The%20Game&amp;field-title=&amp;field-label=&amp;field-binding=&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6">The
Game</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=The%20Game+Money&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Money</a></p>
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      <title>Response to Some Feedback on "What's New" in Windows Live Messenger</title>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:21:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Darren Neimke a post entitled &lt;a href="http://neimke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21F964EB605E70A5CA%21300.entry"&gt;The
“What’s New” feature in Live Messenger&lt;/a&gt; where he gives some feedback on a new feature
of Windows Live Messenger which shows updates from the user's social network at the
bottom of the Messenger window in a slideshow/carousel. Although I don't work on the
Windows Live Messenger team, I did work on the platform that powers this feature and
I am intimately familiar with how it works. So here are his questions and my answers 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pJwvuYJ2tIsVwrHXKpC8LFLhyKMc5Zt2q4O46L9gs9DMKiqu21MQXmTZxpjuV2Rdp?PARTNER=WRITER"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pWt1UWm5923IcWclW1JmNitSj9cEOUC-8ihiXzDujhN6D7Bzfzkr2Go35BhBUnfx5kPprNJ8JZfU?PARTNER=WRITER" align="left" border="0" width="315" height="163"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The new beta for Windows Live Messenger has given us an interesting new featured
called “What’s new” which displays updates from your friends at the bottom of the
Messenger application.&amp;nbsp; As you can see from the promotional image for this feature,
it displays Who, What, and When information from your friends updates. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I really like the idea behind this feature and watching “What’s new” updates has
already led me to information that I might previously have missed.&amp;nbsp; I would say
that in the current beta, some parts appear not to be working correctly.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I'm glad to see that bringing activity streams down to the desktop client has led
Darren to find out information about his social network that he would have otherwise
missed. Serendipitous discovery is what this feature is about and its great to see
people getting value out of it within the first few days of using the feature. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Since this is a beta some features may not seem to work correctly either because we
haven't gotten around to implementing them or because we would like user feedback
on how people expect the features to work. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The actual feature as it is installed on my machine does not seem to display the
“When” part of the information as you can see from the following image: &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pbKXLSq7q8z6ef5n3-RjjHwTz3dF89G_t7rKBgYUr4wiqM_5IRzL7iEs-RZJ8PPhqoaFB2D7uuxo?PARTNER=WRITER"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pn-miWSMZ74PH5CObMCTE-wn-5iKJZ_BJo1l__9P-F1fRGDKlItcLoh69sPZzDOd-B97JVsG0mBQ?PARTNER=WRITER" border="0" width="271" height="68"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Actually the "When" part of the activity is available in the beta. By default the
"What's New" carousel is in collapsed mode but you can expand it by clicking on the
divider that separates the "What's New" carousel from the contact list as shown below. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
STEP 1: Hover over divider 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1phz1Gx8Hscgtva10OsxOJ2wEZVFBAPoP5oDaT5wwfA6CBmhSCAFYWz8fWbj7mqCV6wdGa75-7J-c/wn-collapsed.jpg"&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
STEP 2: Click to expand 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://cqmbka.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pAFp2BtRNHVO8Cjp3B7HL6o8fsWwkPLoaXfWJqs5xTJba9N6NuRXykAwCvRlMTebR6V9X_DevVO0/wn-expanded.jpg"&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As you can see from the screenshot above, the expanded view takes a lot of real estate
from the contact list which is why the default is the collapsed mode. We did have
some concerns that users wouldn't discover that they could expand the carousel which
seems to have been borne out by Darren's assumption that the feature wasn't there. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Another issue with the status update shown above is that the link that is displayed
does not take me to the post that Jamie commented on.&amp;nbsp; Instead, it takes me to
Jamie’s profile page.&amp;nbsp; Probably not what I’d be interested in seeing here as
I’d be much more interested in reading the post and the comment that Jamie made. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Another feature which doesn’t appear to have been implemented as yet is a “Post
a note” link.&amp;nbsp; Currently this appears as a non-clickable piece of text. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1prtlBxfT_RthFljiRSLe4QbTROATcvKSN7q7txsrpNJ5YDeuWLETde9gOmsRt5Fn6S9z7phFcMXE?PARTNER=WRITER"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img title="image" alt="image" src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1pMoajNb17UFDpp-ogmOwqYz3LsIm9-zEc9dKTVcUNNgEmZ-am8eeA7j5zhSa_J6DTh-ErLRm2kv8?PARTNER=WRITER" border="0" width="218" height="68"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
The fact that various links don't work in the "What's New" is a known issue. You can
expect that these links should work in subsequent releases. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I haven’t really seen much discussion or documentation about the “What’s new”
feature as yet to see what events get added and whether there is an SDK behind all
of this.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I’m interested in seeing where this feature goes as it appears to have a lot of
promise.&amp;nbsp; Overall, I think that the current UX is lacking in some way – most
popular applications that display feeds tend to show more than just a single entry.&amp;nbsp;
I’m also wondering whether it would make sense to see some sort of provider model
that would allow me to publish updates into the feed somehow.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Jamie Thomson has a blog post on the &lt;a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21550F681DAD532637%215914.entry"&gt;new
notification types in the What's New feed&lt;/a&gt; where he references the original list
from &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%213C8CA60F8F925FEC%21884.entry"&gt;Rob
Dolin&lt;/a&gt; who's actually responsible for PMing the content of the feed. There are
also comments from other Windows Live users discussing the kind of updates they've
seen in the feed thus far. I assume Rob is waiting until Wave 3 is final before writing
a post on the various update types that show up in the feed. However it should be
noted that part of the platform work our team did in this release was to make the
process of adding new update types to the feed easier. Thus even if Rob Dolin does
post a list of the current update types in the What's New feed, that list could change
in a matter of days, weeks or months.&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I've thought a little bit about what a public API for interacting with the What's
New feed should be like but I'm currently not sold on whether we should have one and
if so what capabilities it should expose. I'd be interested in hearing more from people
who would be interested in such an SDK. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Now Playing:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_m_pop/?search-alias=popular&amp;amp;unfiltered=1&amp;amp;field-keywords=&amp;amp;field-artist=The%20Game&amp;amp;field-title=&amp;amp;field-label=&amp;amp;field-binding=&amp;amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.x=19&amp;amp;Adv-Srch-Music-Album-Submit.y=6"&gt;The
Game&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;amp;field-keywords=The%20Game+Money&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0"&gt;Money&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
          <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/cjones/default.aspx">Chris Jones</a> has
a blog post entitled <a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!6822.entry">Building
Windows Live</a> where he talks about the what all of us on Windows Live have been
working on over the past year. He writes 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>We have spent the last year working on our next major wave of releases for Windows
Live. This wave is part of our ongoing work to build a great set of communication
and sharing experiences that help keep your life in sync. This wave includes significant
updates to our software applications for your Windows PC, and in the next few hours,
we will release </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/">
              <em>public betas</em>
            </a>
            <em> of
the latest version of the Windows Live suite of PC applications, including </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/messenger">
              <em>Messenger</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/wlmail">
              <em>Mail</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/photogallery">
              <em>Photo
Gallery</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/moviemaker">
              <em>Movie
Maker</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/writer">
              <em>Writer</em>
            </a>
            <em>, </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/toolbar">
              <em>Toolbar</em>
            </a>
            <em>,
and </em>
            <a href="http://download.live.com/familysafety">
              <em>Family Safety</em>
            </a>
            <em>.
You’ll find new features across the products and most notably, Windows Live Messenger
has been almost entirely redesigned. I’m sure many of you will have questions, and,
over the coming weeks, we’ll have individuals from the engineering team share more
about what we have built and why we made the investments we made. Our intent is to
post regularly to this blog, and if there are topics you think we should cover, please
leave a comment or send me an e-mail at </em>
            <a href="mailto:chris.jones@microsoft.com">
              <em>chris.jones@microsoft.com</em>
            </a>
            <em>.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
It seems the download links were found early by <a href="http://liveside.net/main/archive/2008/09/16/windows-live-wave-3-betas-download-now.aspx">those
intrepid correspondents over at LiveSide</a> and a number of people have already started
trying the new versions out. The download URLs are <b><a href="http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-web.exe">http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-web.exe</a></b>and <b><a href="http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-all.exe">http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-all.exe</a> </b>depending
on whether you want to download a subset of the Windows Live desktop applications
or all of them. 
</p>
        <p>
I probably won't be blogging in detail about what I've worked on over the past few
months until the products are out of beta but I will leave with this screenshot from
Darren Neimke's post <a href="http://neimke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F964EB605E70A5CA!287.entry">Loving
the new Live Beta’s</a>.
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <img src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1p_HRyp9HaqrqxVJNEItx33eY3LYG0otCBcoNPHu8PpqigN345aB0YP3HGD2wJYZsgqolygPL9PZI?PARTNER=WRITER" />
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
I'm sure you can <a title="Windows Live Events and Updated &quot;What's New&quot; page on Windows Live Spaces" href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!616444EE7A34F417!2023.entry">guess</a> which
of the features called out above I worked on. 
</p>
        <p>
PS: My favorite thing about the new wave of Windows Live products is that the world
now has <a title="Wave 3: Windows Live Mail - Calendar, Calendar, Calendar (And More)" href="http://liveside.net/main/archive/2008/09/17/windows-live-mail-wave-3-calendar-calendar-calendar-and-more.aspx">a
seamless calendar sharing solution</a> that works. If <a href="http://www.shahine.com/omar">Omar</a> doesn't
write something similar first, I'll probably throw a blog up about how my wife and
I plan to use Outlook + Outlook Connector and Windows Live Mail + Windows Live Calendar
to share our schedules so I no longer miss birth center appointments. :) 
</p>
        <p>
          <b>Now Playing:</b>
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Khaled</a> - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&amp;field-keywords=DJ Khaled+Go Hard (Feat. Kanye West &amp; T-Pain)&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">Go
Hard (Feat. Kanye West &amp; T-Pain)</a></p>
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      <title>Public Beta of the Latest Wave of the Windows Live desktop suite is now Available</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:07:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/cjones/default.aspx"&gt;Chris Jones&lt;/a&gt; has
a blog post entitled &lt;a href="http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!6822.entry"&gt;Building
Windows Live&lt;/a&gt; where he talks about the what all of us on Windows Live have been
working on over the past year. He writes 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;We have spent the last year working on our next major wave of releases for Windows
Live. This wave is part of our ongoing work to build a great set of communication
and sharing experiences that help keep your life in sync. This wave includes significant
updates to our software applications for your Windows PC, and in the next few hours,
we will release &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;public betas&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; of
the latest version of the Windows Live suite of PC applications, including &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/messenger"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Messenger&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/wlmail"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mail&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/photogallery"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Photo
Gallery&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/moviemaker"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Movie
Maker&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/writer"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Writer&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/toolbar"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Toolbar&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;,
and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.live.com/familysafety"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Family Safety&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.
You’ll find new features across the products and most notably, Windows Live Messenger
has been almost entirely redesigned. I’m sure many of you will have questions, and,
over the coming weeks, we’ll have individuals from the engineering team share more
about what we have built and why we made the investments we made. Our intent is to
post regularly to this blog, and if there are topics you think we should cover, please
leave a comment or send me an e-mail at &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:chris.jones@microsoft.com"&gt;&lt;em&gt;chris.jones@microsoft.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
It seems the download links were found early by &lt;a href="http://liveside.net/main/archive/2008/09/16/windows-live-wave-3-betas-download-now.aspx"&gt;those
intrepid correspondents over at LiveSide&lt;/a&gt; and a number of people have already started
trying the new versions out. The download URLs are &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-web.exe"&gt;http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-web.exe&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;and &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-all.exe"&gt;http://g.live.com/1rebeta3/en/wlsetup-all.exe&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/b&gt;depending
on whether you want to download a subset of the Windows Live desktop applications
or all of them. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I probably won't be blogging in detail about what I've worked on over the past few
months until the products are out of beta but I will leave with this screenshot from
Darren Neimke's post &lt;a href="http://neimke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F964EB605E70A5CA!287.entry"&gt;Loving
the new Live Beta’s&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://blufiles.storage.msn.com/y1p_HRyp9HaqrqxVJNEItx33eY3LYG0otCBcoNPHu8PpqigN345aB0YP3HGD2wJYZsgqolygPL9PZI?PARTNER=WRITER" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I'm sure you can &lt;a title="Windows Live Events and Updated &amp;quot;What&amp;#39;s New&amp;quot; page on Windows Live Spaces" href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!616444EE7A34F417!2023.entry"&gt;guess&lt;/a&gt; which
of the features called out above I worked on. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
PS: My favorite thing about the new wave of Windows Live products is that the world
now has &lt;a title="Wave 3: Windows Live Mail - Calendar, Calendar, Calendar (And More)" href="http://liveside.net/main/archive/2008/09/17/windows-live-mail-wave-3-calendar-calendar-calendar-and-more.aspx"&gt;a
seamless calendar sharing solution&lt;/a&gt; that works. If &lt;a href="http://www.shahine.com/omar"&gt;Omar&lt;/a&gt; doesn't
write something similar first, I'll probably throw a blog up about how my wife and
I plan to use Outlook + Outlook Connector and Windows Live Mail + Windows Live Calendar
to share our schedules so I no longer miss birth center appointments. :) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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        <p>
          <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/treadwell/">David Treadwell</a> has
a blog post on the Windows Live Developer blog entitled <a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/02/27/213.aspx">David
Treadwell on New and Updated Windows Live Platform Services</a> where he previews
some of the announcements that folks will get to dig into at <a href="http://visitmix.com/2008/">MIX
08</a>. There are a lot of items of note in his post but there is some stuff that
stands out that I felt was worth calling out. 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <h4>
            <em>Windows Live Messenger Library (new to beta) – “Develop your own IM experience”</em>
          </h4>
          <p>
            <em>We are also opening up the Windows Live Messenger network for third-party web
sites to reach the 300 million+ Windows Live Messenger users. The library is a </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc298458.aspx" target="_blank">
              <em>JavaScript
client API</em>
            </a>
            <em>, so the user experience is primarily defined by the third
party. When a third party integrates the Windows Live Messenger Library into their
site they can define the look &amp; feel to create their own IM experience. Unlike
the existing third party wrappers for the MSN Protocol (the underlying protocol for
Windows Live Messenger) the Windows Live Messenger Library securely authenticates
users, therefore their Windows Live ID credentials are safe.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
A couple of months ago we announced the <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb936682.aspx">Windows
Live Messenger IM Control</a> which enables you to embed an AJAX instant
messaging window on any webpage so people can start IM conversations with you.
I have one placed at <a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/">http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com</a> and it’s
cool to have random readers of my blog start up conversations with me in the middle
of my work day or at home via the IM control. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
The team who delivered this has been hard at work and now they’ve built a library
that enables any developer to build similar experiences on top of the Windows Live
Messenger network. Completely customized IM integration is now available for
anyone that wants it.  Sweet. Kudos to <a href="http://keiji.spaces.live.com/">Keiji</a>, <a href="http://stephen.spaces.live.com/">Steve
Gordon</a>, <a href="http://inkysblog.spaces.live.com/">Siebe</a> and everyone
else who had something to do with this for getting it out the door. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
An interesting tidbit is that the library was developed in <a href="http://www.nikhilk.net/ScriptSharpIntro.aspx">Script#</a>.
Three cheers for code generation. 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <h4>
            <em>Contacts API (progressed to Beta) – “Bring your friends”</em>
          </h4>
          <p>
            <em>Our goal is to help developers keep users at the center of their experience by
letting them control their data and contact portability, while keeping their personal
information private. A big step forward in that effort is today’s release to beta
of </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx" target="_blank">
              <em>Windows
Live Contacts API</em>
            </a>
            <em>. Web developers can use this API in production to enable
their customers to transfer and share their contacts lists in a secure, trustworthy
way (i.e., <u>no more screen scraping</u>)—a great step on the road toward data portability.
(For more on Microsoft’s view on data portability, check out Inder Sethi’s </em>
            <a href="http://silverlight.services.live.com/invoke/6579/DataPortabilityInder15MB/iframe.html" target="_blank">
              <em>video</em>
            </a>
            <em>.)
By creating an optimized mode for invitations, it allows users to share only the minimum
amount of information required to invite friends to a site, this includes firstname
/ lastname / preferred email address. The Contacts API uses the new Windows Live ID
Delegated Authentication framework; you can find out more </em>
            <a href="http://dev.live.com/liveid" target="_blank">
              <em>here</em>
            </a>
            <em>. </em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
A lot of the hubbub around “data portability” has really been about exporting
contact lists. Those of us working on the Contacts platform at Windows Live
realize that there is a great demand for users to be able to access their social graph
data <em>securely</em> from non-Microsoft services.  
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
The <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx" target="_blank">Windows
Live Contacts API</a> provides a way for Windows Live users to give an application
permission to access their contact list in Windows Live (i.e. Hotmail address
book/Live Messenger buddy list) without giving the application their username and
password. It is our plan to kill <a href="http://adactio.com/journal/1357">the password
anti-pattern</a> when it comes to Windows Live services. If you are a developer of
an application or Web site that screen scrapes Hotmail contacts, I’d suggest taking
a look at this API instead of continuing in this unsavory practice. 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <h4>
            <em>Atom Publishing Protocol (AtomPub) as the future direction</em>
          </h4>
          <p>
            <em>Microsoft is making a large investment in unifying our developer platform protocols
for services on the open, standards-based Atom format (</em>
            <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287.txt" target="_blank">
              <em>RFC
4287</em>
            </a>
            <em>) and the Atom Publishing Protocol (</em>
            <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5023.txt" target="_blank">
              <em>RFC
5023</em>
            </a>
            <em>). At MIX we are enabling several new Live services with AtomPub
endpoints which enable any HTTP-aware application to easily consume Atom feeds of
photos and for unstructured application storage (see below for more details). Or you
can use any Atom-aware public tools or libraries, such as </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb412202.aspx">
              <em>.NET
WCF Syndication</em>
            </a>
            <em> to read or write these cloud service-based feeds.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>In addition, these same protocols and the same services are now </em>
            <a href="http://astoria.mslivelabs.com/" target="_blank">
              <em>ADO.NET
Data Services</em>
            </a>
            <em> (formerly known as “ Project Astoria”) compatible. This
means we now support </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb308959.aspx" target="_blank">
              <em>LINQ</em>
            </a>
            <em> queries
from .NET code directly against our service endpoints, leveraging a large amount of
existing knowledge and tooling shared with on-premise SQL deployments.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
The first question that probably pops into the mind of regular readers of my blog
is, “What happened to <a href="http://dev.live.com/livedata/web3s.htm">Web3S</a> and
all that talk about <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/09/WhyGDataAPPFailsAsAGeneralPurposeEditingProtocolForTheWeb.aspx">AtomPub</a> not
being a general purpose editing format for the Web?”. The fact is when we listened
to the community of Web developers <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/11/GDataIsntABestPracticeImplementationOfTheAtomPublishingProtocol.aspx">the
feedback was overwhelmingly clear</a> that people would prefer if we worked together
with the community to make AtomPub work for the scenarios we felt it wasn’t suited
for than Microsoft creating a competing proprietary protocol. 
</p>
        <p>
We listened and now here we are. If you are interested in the technical details
of how Microsoft plans to use AtomPub and how we’ve dealt with the various issues
we originally had with the protocol. I suggest subscribing to the <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/astoriateam/">Astoria
team’s blog</a> and check out the various posts on this topic by Pablo Castro. There’s
a good post by Pablo discussing how Astoria <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/astoriateam/archive/2008/02/18/related-entries-and-feeds-links-and-link-expansion.aspx">describes
relations between elements in AtomPub and suggests a mechanism for doing inline expansion
of links</a>. I’ll be providing my thoughts on each of Pablo’s posts and the
responses as I find time during the coming weeks. 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <h4>
            <em>Windows Live Photo API (CTP Refresh with AtomPub end point)</em>
          </h4>
          <p>
            <em>The </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx" target="_blank">
              <em>Windows
Live Photo API</em>
            </a>
            <em> allows users to securely grant permission (via Delegated
Authentication) for a third party web site to create/read/update/delete on their photos
store in Windows Live. The </em>
            <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx" target="_blank">
              <em>Photo
API</em>
            </a>
            <em> refresh has several things which make it easier and faster for third
parties to implement.</em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>Third party web sites can you link/refer to images directly from the web browser
so they no longer need to proxy images, and effectively save on image bandwidth bills. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>A new AtomPub end point which makes it even easier to integrate.</em>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
At the current time, I can’t find the AtomPub endpoint but that’s probably because
the documentation hasn’t been refreshed. Moving the API to AtomPub is one of the consequences
of the decision to standardize on AtomPub for Web services provided by Windows Live.
Although I was part of the original decision to expose the API using WebDAV,
I like the fact that all of our APIs will utilize a standard protocol and can
take advantage of the breadth of Atom and AtomPub libraries that exist on various
platforms. 
</p>
        <p>
I need to track down the AtomPub end point so I can compare and contrast it to the
WebDAV version to see what we’ve gained and/or lost in the translation. Stay
tuned. 
</p>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/treadwell/"&gt;David Treadwell&lt;/a&gt; has
a blog post on the Windows Live Developer blog entitled &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/02/27/213.aspx"&gt;David
Treadwell on New and Updated Windows Live Platform Services&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;where he previews
some of the announcements that folks will get to dig into&amp;nbsp;at &lt;a href="http://visitmix.com/2008/"&gt;MIX
08&lt;/a&gt;. There are a lot of items of note in his post but there is some stuff that
stands out that I felt was worth calling out. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;h4&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows Live Messenger Library (new to beta) – “Develop your own IM experience”&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;We are also opening up the Windows Live Messenger network for third-party web
sites to reach the 300 million+ Windows Live Messenger users. The library is a &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc298458.aspx" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;JavaScript
client API&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, so the user experience is primarily defined by the third
party. When a third party integrates the Windows Live Messenger Library into their
site they can define the look &amp;amp; feel to create their own IM experience. Unlike
the existing third party wrappers for the MSN Protocol (the underlying protocol for
Windows Live Messenger) the Windows Live Messenger Library securely authenticates
users, therefore their Windows Live ID credentials are safe.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
A couple of months ago we announced the &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb936682.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Messenger IM Control&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;enables you to embed an AJAX&amp;nbsp;instant
messaging&amp;nbsp;window on any webpage so people can start IM conversations with you.
I have one&amp;nbsp;placed at &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/"&gt;http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com&lt;/a&gt; and&amp;nbsp;it’s
cool to have random readers of my blog start up conversations with me in the middle
of my work day or at home via the IM control. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
The team who delivered this has been&amp;nbsp;hard at work and now they’ve built a library
that enables any developer to build similar experiences on top of the Windows Live
Messenger network. Completely customized IM integration is now available&amp;nbsp;for
anyone that wants it.&amp;nbsp; Sweet. Kudos to &lt;a href="http://keiji.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Keiji&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://stephen.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Steve
Gordon&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://inkysblog.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Siebe&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and everyone
else who had something to do with this for getting it out the door. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
An interesting tidbit is that the library was developed in &lt;a href="http://www.nikhilk.net/ScriptSharpIntro.aspx"&gt;Script#&lt;/a&gt;.
Three cheers for code generation. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;h4&gt;&lt;em&gt;Contacts API (progressed to Beta) – “Bring your friends”&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Our goal is to help developers keep users at the center of their experience by
letting them control their data and contact portability, while keeping their personal
information private. A big step forward in that effort is today’s release to beta
of &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. Web developers can use this API in production to enable
their customers to transfer and share their contacts lists in a secure, trustworthy
way (i.e., &lt;u&gt;no more screen scraping&lt;/u&gt;)—a great step on the road toward data portability.
(For more on Microsoft’s view on data portability, check out Inder Sethi’s &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.services.live.com/invoke/6579/DataPortabilityInder15MB/iframe.html" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;video&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.)
By creating an optimized mode for invitations, it allows users to share only the minimum
amount of information required to invite friends to a site, this includes firstname
/ lastname / preferred email address. The Contacts API uses the new Windows Live ID
Delegated Authentication framework; you can find out more &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/liveid" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;here&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
A lot of the&amp;nbsp;hubbub around “data portability” has really been about exporting
contact lists. Those of us&amp;nbsp;working on the&amp;nbsp;Contacts platform at Windows Live
realize that there is a great demand for users to be able to access their social graph
data&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;securely&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;from non-Microsoft services. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
The &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx" target=_blank&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt; provides a way for Windows Live users to give an application
permission to access their&amp;nbsp;contact list in Windows Live (i.e. Hotmail address
book/Live Messenger buddy list) without giving the application their username and
password. It is our plan to kill &lt;a href="http://adactio.com/journal/1357"&gt;the password
anti-pattern&lt;/a&gt; when it comes to Windows Live services. If you are a developer of
an application or Web site that screen scrapes Hotmail contacts, I’d suggest taking
a look at this API instead of continuing in this unsavory practice. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;h4&gt;&lt;em&gt;Atom Publishing Protocol (AtomPub) as the future direction&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Microsoft is making a large investment in unifying our developer platform protocols
for services on the open, standards-based Atom format (&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287.txt" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;RFC
4287&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;) and the Atom Publishing Protocol (&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5023.txt" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;RFC
5023&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;). At MIX we are enabling several new Live services with AtomPub
endpoints which enable any HTTP-aware application to easily consume Atom feeds of
photos and for unstructured application storage (see below for more details). Or you
can use any Atom-aware public tools or libraries, such as &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb412202.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;.NET
WCF Syndication&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; to read or write these cloud service-based feeds.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;In addition, these same protocols and the same services are now &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://astoria.mslivelabs.com/" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;ADO.NET
Data Services&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; (formerly known as “ Project Astoria”) compatible. This
means we now support &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb308959.aspx" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;LINQ&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; queries
from .NET code directly against our service endpoints, leveraging a large amount of
existing knowledge and tooling shared with on-premise SQL deployments.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
The first question that probably pops into the mind of regular readers of my blog
is, “What happened to &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/livedata/web3s.htm"&gt;Web3S&lt;/a&gt; and
all that talk about &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/09/WhyGDataAPPFailsAsAGeneralPurposeEditingProtocolForTheWeb.aspx"&gt;AtomPub&lt;/a&gt; not
being a general purpose editing format for the Web?”. The fact is when&amp;nbsp;we listened
to the community of Web developers &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/11/GDataIsntABestPracticeImplementationOfTheAtomPublishingProtocol.aspx"&gt;the
feedback was overwhelmingly clear&lt;/a&gt; that people would prefer if we worked together
with the community to make AtomPub work for the scenarios we felt it wasn’t suited
for than Microsoft creating a competing proprietary protocol. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
We listened and now here we are. If you are interested in the&amp;nbsp;technical details
of how Microsoft plans to use AtomPub and how we’ve dealt with the various issues
we originally had with the protocol. I suggest subscribing to the &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/astoriateam/"&gt;Astoria
team’s blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and check out the various posts on this topic by Pablo Castro.&amp;nbsp;There’s
a good post by Pablo&amp;nbsp;discussing how Astoria &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/astoriateam/archive/2008/02/18/related-entries-and-feeds-links-and-link-expansion.aspx"&gt;describes
relations between elements in AtomPub and suggests a mechanism for doing inline expansion
of links&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;I’ll be providing my thoughts on each of Pablo’s posts and the
responses as I find time during the coming weeks. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;h4&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows Live Photo API (CTP Refresh with AtomPub end point)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows
Live Photo API&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; allows users to securely grant permission (via Delegated
Authentication) for a third party web site to create/read/update/delete on their photos
store in Windows Live. The &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;Photo
API&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; refresh has several things which make it easier and faster for third
parties to implement.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Third party web sites can you link/refer to images directly from the web browser
so they no longer need to proxy images, and effectively save on image bandwidth bills. &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;A new AtomPub end point which makes it even easier to integrate.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
At the current time, I can’t find the AtomPub endpoint but that’s probably because
the documentation hasn’t been refreshed. Moving the API to AtomPub is one of the consequences
of the decision to standardize on AtomPub for Web services provided by Windows Live.
Although I was part of the original decision&amp;nbsp;to expose the API using WebDAV,
I like the fact that all of our APIs will&amp;nbsp;utilize a standard protocol and can
take advantage of the breadth of Atom and AtomPub libraries that exist on various
platforms. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I need to track down the AtomPub end point so I can compare and contrast it to the
WebDAV version to see what we’ve gained&amp;nbsp;and/or lost in the translation. Stay
tuned. 
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        <p>
Over the past week, two Windows Live teams have shipped some good news to their users. The <a href="http://skydrive.live.com/">Windows
Live SkyDrive</a> team addressed the two most often raised issues with their service with
the announcements in their post <a href="http://skydriveteam.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!977F793E846B3C96!1697.entry">Welcome
to the bigger, better, faster SkyDrive!</a> which reads 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <div>
            <em>You've made two things clear since our first release: You want more space;
and you want SkyDrive where you are. Today we're giving you both. You now have five
times the space you had before — that’s <strong>5GB of free online storage</strong> for
your favorite documents, pictures, and other files.</em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em> </em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em>
              <img src="http://oupxlq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pfARZhB-evsusoRkrb8oQYAbC-j8jAAXYV--mW0-_rEhj0JL4p_WMpAQl6vkU-PwChGJJ2q_0QixD9dMAo7RIpw/SkyDrive_storage.gif" />
            </em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em> </em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em>SkyDrive is also available now in <strong>38 countries/regions</strong>.
In addition to Great Britain, India, and the U.S., we’re live in Argentina, Australia,
Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, the Dominican
Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Finland, France, Guatemala, Honduras, Italy, Japan,
Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto
Rico, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, and Turkey.</em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em> </em>
          </div>
          <div>
            <em>
              <img src="http://oupxlq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pfARZhB-evsu6yV-fd6IIq4mvz5VLSpwLUSfciP_gVOedasn8vpbM-iPPIUKRYS7IuDNmXi-5Ccqp6PxUSX9QrA/SkyDrive_Map.gif" />
            </em>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Wow, Windows Live is just drowning our customers with free storage. Thats 5GB
in SkyDrive and 5GB for Hotmail.  
</p>
        <p>
The <a href="http://spaces.live.com/">Windows Live Spaces</a> team also shipped
some sweetness to their customers as well. This feature is a little nearer to my heart
since it relies on Contact platform APIs I worked on a little while ago.
The feature is described by Michelle in on the their team blog in a post entitled <a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!41672.entry">More
information on Friends in common</a> which states
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p>
            <em>In the friends module on another person’s space, there is a new area that highlights
friends you have in common.  Right away you can see the number of people you
both know and the profile pictures of some of those friends.  </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Want to see the rest of your mutual friends?  Click on <strong>In common</strong> and
you’re taken to a full page view that shows all of your friends as well as separate
lists of friends in common and friends that you don't have in common.  This way
you can also discover new people that you might know in real life, but are not connected
with on Windows Live. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>           </em>
            <a href="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIooiBtxQcoqMOfZ8XvvhrB6zJT0vh45nAVHRdLeOqWyjxf_8Mj8Mm3npfMK6TVngXxRdyYNgYk3ftw" target="_blank">
              <em>
                <img style="WIDTH: 199px; HEIGHT: 275px" height="148" alt="Friend_in_common_1" src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIooiBtxQcoqMOfZ8XvvhrB6zJT0vh45nAVHRdLeOqWyjxf_8Mj8Mm3npfMK6TVngXxRdyYNgYk3ftw" width="93" />
              </em>
            </a>
            <em>                                      </em>
            <a href="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIopK8BoG_0360unc_C8vn4waE35wWkfCjibt8LDaBRgVobZbhpsIUFhwVEZOr7t20LQLIfPvK5OsDg" target="_blank">
              <em>
                <img style="WIDTH: 361px; HEIGHT: 223px" height="204" alt="Friends_in_common_2" src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIopK8BoG_0360unc_C8vn4waE35wWkfCjibt8LDaBRgVobZbhpsIUFhwVEZOr7t20LQLIfPvK5OsDg" width="366" />
              </em>
            </a>
            <em>
            </em>
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            <em>  </em>
            <table cellspacing="5" cellpadding="10" width="771" border="0">
              <tbody>
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                    <p>
                      <em>Finding friends in common is also especially important when planning an event
on </em>
                      <a href="http://events.live.com/" target="_blank">
                        <em>Windows Live Events</em>
                      </a>
                      <em>. 
Who wants to go to a party when none of your friends are going?  </em>
                    </p>
                    <p>
                      <em>On the Guest list area of every event, you can now quickly see how many of your
friends have also been invited to the event.  Just click on <strong>See who’s
going</strong> and see whether or not your friends are planning to go.</em>  
</p>
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                      <img height="208" alt="Friends_in_common_3" src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIop7L67QZpamBRc6TqaQ8-IUCnTfaDD9lwff-jiylyl3d_NEjyZquQXz1jT-EWSm9FcD-y7JrAbYmg" width="391" />
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        <p dir="ltr">
Showing mutual friends as shown above is one of those small features that makes a
big impact on the user experience. Nice work Michelle and Shu on getting this out
the door. 
</p>
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      <title>Spaces &amp; SkyDrive: Recent Releases from Windows Live</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Over the past week, two Windows Live teams have shipped some good news to their users.&amp;nbsp;The &lt;a href="http://skydrive.live.com/"&gt;Windows
Live SkyDrive&lt;/a&gt; team addressed the two most often raised issues with their service&amp;nbsp;with
the announcements in their post&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://skydriveteam.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!977F793E846B3C96!1697.entry"&gt;Welcome
to the bigger, better, faster SkyDrive!&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which reads 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;You've made two things clear since our first release: You want more space;
and you want SkyDrive where you are. Today we're giving you both. You now have five
times the space you had before — that’s &lt;strong&gt;5GB of free online storage&lt;/strong&gt; for
your favorite documents, pictures, and other files.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img src="http://oupxlq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pfARZhB-evsusoRkrb8oQYAbC-j8jAAXYV--mW0-_rEhj0JL4p_WMpAQl6vkU-PwChGJJ2q_0QixD9dMAo7RIpw/SkyDrive_storage.gif"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;SkyDrive is also available now in &lt;strong&gt;38 countries/regions&lt;/strong&gt;.
In addition to Great Britain, India, and the U.S., we’re live in Argentina, Australia,
Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, the Dominican
Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Finland, France, Guatemala, Honduras, Italy, Japan,
Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto
Rico, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, and Turkey.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img src="http://oupxlq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pfARZhB-evsu6yV-fd6IIq4mvz5VLSpwLUSfciP_gVOedasn8vpbM-iPPIUKRYS7IuDNmXi-5Ccqp6PxUSX9QrA/SkyDrive_Map.gif"&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Wow, Windows Live&amp;nbsp;is just drowning our customers with free storage. Thats 5GB
in SkyDrive and&amp;nbsp;5GB for Hotmail.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://spaces.live.com/"&gt;Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt; team also shipped
some sweetness to their customers as well. This feature is a little nearer to my heart
since it relies on&amp;nbsp;Contact platform APIs&amp;nbsp;I worked on a little while ago.
The feature is described by Michelle in on the their team blog in a post entitled &lt;a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8AA773FE0A12B9E3!41672.entry"&gt;More
information on Friends in common&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which states
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;In the friends module on another person’s space, there is a new area that highlights
friends you have in common.&amp;nbsp; Right away you can see the number of people you
both know and the profile pictures of some of those friends.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Want to see the rest of your mutual friends?&amp;nbsp; Click on &lt;strong&gt;In common&lt;/strong&gt; and
you’re taken to a full page view that shows all of your friends as well as separate
lists of friends in common and friends that you don't have in common.&amp;nbsp; This way
you can also discover new people that you might know in real life, but are not connected
with on Windows Live. &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIooiBtxQcoqMOfZ8XvvhrB6zJT0vh45nAVHRdLeOqWyjxf_8Mj8Mm3npfMK6TVngXxRdyYNgYk3ftw" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img style="WIDTH: 199px; HEIGHT: 275px" height=148 alt=Friend_in_common_1 src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIooiBtxQcoqMOfZ8XvvhrB6zJT0vh45nAVHRdLeOqWyjxf_8Mj8Mm3npfMK6TVngXxRdyYNgYk3ftw" width=93&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIopK8BoG_0360unc_C8vn4waE35wWkfCjibt8LDaBRgVobZbhpsIUFhwVEZOr7t20LQLIfPvK5OsDg" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img style="WIDTH: 361px; HEIGHT: 223px" height=204 alt=Friends_in_common_2 src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIopK8BoG_0360unc_C8vn4waE35wWkfCjibt8LDaBRgVobZbhpsIUFhwVEZOr7t20LQLIfPvK5OsDg" width=366&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;table cellspacing=5 cellpadding=10 width=771 border=0&gt;
&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td valign=top width=465&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Finding friends in common is also especially important when planning an event
on &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://events.live.com/" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;Windows Live Events&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&amp;nbsp;
Who wants to go to a party when none of your friends are going?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;On the Guest list area of every event, you can now quickly see how many of your
friends have also been invited to the event.&amp;nbsp; Just click on &lt;strong&gt;See who’s
going&lt;/strong&gt; and see whether or not your friends are planning to go.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;td valign=top width=289&gt;
&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIop7L67QZpamBRc6TqaQ8-IUCnTfaDD9lwff-jiylyl3d_NEjyZquQXz1jT-EWSm9FcD-y7JrAbYmg" target=_blank&gt;&lt;img height=208 alt=Friends_in_common_3 src="http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pL5FiVW-WIop7L67QZpamBRc6TqaQ8-IUCnTfaDD9lwff-jiylyl3d_NEjyZquQXz1jT-EWSm9FcD-y7JrAbYmg" width=391&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
Showing mutual friends as shown above is one of those small features that makes a
big impact on the user experience. Nice work Michelle and Shu on getting this out
the door. 
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        <p>
It's a testament to how busy I've been at work focusing on the Contacts platform that
I missed an announcement by Angus Logan a few months ago that there had been <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/angus_logan/archive/2007/11/14/announcement-windows-live-spaces-photo-api-alpha-available-interactive-sdk.aspx">an
alpha release of a REST API for accessing photos on Windows Live Spaces</a>. 
The <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx">MSDN page for
the API</a> describes the API as 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <p>
            <em>Welcome to the Alpha release of the Windows Live Spaces Photos API. The Windows
Live Spaces Photo API allows Web sites to view and update Windows Live Spaces photo
albums using the </em>
            <a href="http://www.webdav.org/">
              <em>WebDAV</em>
            </a>
            <em> protocol.
Web sites can incorporate the following functionality:</em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>Upload or download photos. </em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Create, edit, or delete photo albums.</em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Request a list of a user's albums, photos, or comments.</em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Edit or delete content for an existing entry.</em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Query the content in an existing entry.</em>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
This news is of particular interest to me since this API is the fruits of my labor
that was first hinted at in my post <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2006/01/18/AFlickrlikeAPIForMSNSpaces.aspx">A
Flickr-like API for MSN Spaces?</a> from a little over two years ago. At the time,
I was responsible for the public APIs for <strike>MSN</strike> Windows Live Spaces
and had just finished working on the the <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2005/12/12/MetaWeblogAPIForMSNSpacesNowWidelyAvailable.aspx">MetaWeblog
API for Windows Live Spaces</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
The biggest design problem we faced at the time was how to give applications the ability
to access a user's personal data which required the user to be authenticated without
having dozens of hastily written applications collecting people's usernames and passwords.
In general, if we were just a blogging site it may not have been a big deal (e.g.
the <a href="http://twitter.com/help/api">Twitter API</a> requires that you give your
username &amp; password to random apps which may or may not be trustworthy). 
However we were part of <strike>MSN</strike> Windows Live which meant that we had
to ensure that users credentials were safeguarded and we didn't end up training users
on how to be phished by entering their <strike>Passport</strike> Windows Live ID credentials
into random applications and Web sites. 
</p>
        <p>
To get around this problem with our <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb259702.aspx">implementation
of the MetaWeblog API</a>, I came up with a scheme where users had to use a special
username and password when accessing their Windows Live Spaces blog via the API. This
was a quick &amp; dirty hack which had plenty of long term problems with it. For one,
users had to go through the process of "enabling API access" before they
could use blogging tools or other Metaweblog API clients with the service. Another
problem was that the problem still wasn't solved for other Windows Live services that
wanted to enable APIs. Should each API have its own username and password? That would
be quite confusing and overwhelming for users. Should they re-use our API specific
username and password? In that case we would be back to square one by exposing an
important set of user credentials to random applications. 
</p>
        <p>
The right solution eventually decided upon was to come up with a delegated authentication
model where a user grants application permission to act on his or her behalf without
having to share credentials with the application. This is the model followed by the <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx">Windows
Live Contacts API</a>, <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/documentation.php?v=1.0&amp;doc=auth">the
Facebook API</a>, <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/AuthForWebApps.html">Google
AuthSub</a>, <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/auth/">Yahoo! BBAuth</a>, the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/">Flickr
API</a> and a number of other services on the Web that provide APIs to access a user's
private data. 
</p>
        <p>
Besides that decision, there was also the question of what form the API should take.
Should we embrace &amp; extend the MetaWeblog API with extensions for managing photos
&amp; media? Should we propose a proprietary API based on SOAP or REST? Adopt someone
else's proprietary API (e.g. the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/">Flickr
API</a>)? At the end, I pushed for completely RESTful and completely standards based.
Thus we built the API on WebDAV (<a href="http://www.webdav.org/specs/rfc2518.html">RFC
2518</a>). 
</p>
        <p>
WebDAV seemed like a great fit for a lot of reasons. 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
Photo albums map quite well to collections which are often modeled as folders by WebDAV
clients.  
</li>
          <li>
Support for WebDAV already baked into a lot of client applications on numerous platforms</li>
          <li>
It is RESTful which is important when building a protocol for the Web</li>
          <li>
Proprietary metadata could easily be represented as WebDAV properties</li>
          <li>
Support for granular updates of properties via PROPPATCH</li>
        </ul>
        <p>
The last one turns out to be pretty important as it is an issue today with everyone's
favorite REST protocol du jour. More on that topic in my following post.  
</p>
        <p>
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      <title>The Windows Live Spaces Photo API (alpha)</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:28:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
It's a testament to how busy I've been at work focusing on the Contacts platform that
I missed an announcement by Angus Logan a few months ago that there had been &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/angus_logan/archive/2007/11/14/announcement-windows-live-spaces-photo-api-alpha-available-interactive-sdk.aspx"&gt;an
alpha release of a REST API for accessing photos on Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160;
The &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932323.aspx"&gt;MSDN page for
the API&lt;/a&gt; describes the API as 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Welcome to the Alpha release of the Windows Live Spaces Photos API. The Windows
Live Spaces Photo API allows Web sites to view and update Windows Live Spaces photo
albums using the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.webdav.org/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;WebDAV&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; protocol.
Web sites can incorporate the following functionality:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Upload or download photos. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Create, edit, or delete photo albums.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Request a list of a user's albums, photos, or comments.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Edit or delete content for an existing entry.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Query the content in an existing entry.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
This news is of particular interest to me since this API is the fruits of my labor
that was first hinted at in my post &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2006/01/18/AFlickrlikeAPIForMSNSpaces.aspx"&gt;A
Flickr-like API for MSN Spaces?&lt;/a&gt; from a little over two years ago. At the time,
I was responsible for the public APIs for &lt;strike&gt;MSN&lt;/strike&gt; Windows Live Spaces
and had just finished working on the the &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2005/12/12/MetaWeblogAPIForMSNSpacesNowWidelyAvailable.aspx"&gt;MetaWeblog
API for Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The biggest design problem we faced at the time was how to give applications the ability
to access a user's personal data which required the user to be authenticated without
having dozens of hastily written applications collecting people's usernames and passwords.
In general, if we were just a blogging site it may not have been a big deal (e.g.
the &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/help/api"&gt;Twitter API&lt;/a&gt; requires that you give your
username &amp;amp; password to random apps which may or may not be trustworthy).&amp;#160;
However we were part of &lt;strike&gt;MSN&lt;/strike&gt; Windows Live which meant that we had
to ensure that users credentials were safeguarded and we didn't end up training users
on how to be phished by entering their &lt;strike&gt;Passport&lt;/strike&gt; Windows Live ID credentials
into random applications and Web sites. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To get around this problem with our &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb259702.aspx"&gt;implementation
of the MetaWeblog API&lt;/a&gt;, I came up with a scheme where users had to use a special
username and password when accessing their Windows Live Spaces blog via the API. This
was a quick &amp;amp; dirty hack which had plenty of long term problems with it. For one,
users had to go through the process of &amp;quot;enabling API access&amp;quot; before they
could use blogging tools or other Metaweblog API clients with the service. Another
problem was that the problem still wasn't solved for other Windows Live services that
wanted to enable APIs. Should each API have its own username and password? That would
be quite confusing and overwhelming for users. Should they re-use our API specific
username and password? In that case we would be back to square one by exposing an
important set of user credentials to random applications. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The right solution eventually decided upon was to come up with a delegated authentication
model where a user grants application permission to act on his or her behalf without
having to share credentials with the application. This is the model followed by the &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://developers.facebook.com/documentation.php?v=1.0&amp;amp;doc=auth"&gt;the
Facebook API&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/AuthForWebApps.html"&gt;Google
AuthSub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/auth/"&gt;Yahoo! BBAuth&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/"&gt;Flickr
API&lt;/a&gt; and a number of other services on the Web that provide APIs to access a user's
private data. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Besides that decision, there was also the question of what form the API should take.
Should we embrace &amp;amp; extend the MetaWeblog API with extensions for managing photos
&amp;amp; media? Should we propose a proprietary API based on SOAP or REST? Adopt someone
else's proprietary API (e.g. the &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/"&gt;Flickr
API&lt;/a&gt;)? At the end, I pushed for completely RESTful and completely standards based.
Thus we built the API on WebDAV (&lt;a href="http://www.webdav.org/specs/rfc2518.html"&gt;RFC
2518&lt;/a&gt;). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
WebDAV seemed like a great fit for a lot of reasons. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Photo albums map quite well to collections which are often modeled as folders by WebDAV
clients.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Support for WebDAV already baked into a lot of client applications on numerous platforms&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
It is RESTful which is important when building a protocol for the Web&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Proprietary metadata could easily be represented as WebDAV properties&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Support for granular updates of properties via PROPPATCH&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The last one turns out to be pretty important as it is an issue today with everyone's
favorite REST protocol du jour. More on that topic in my following post.&amp;#160; 
&lt;/p&gt;
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        </p>
        <p>
According to the blog post entitled on <a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/01/24/203.aspx">Microsoft
Joins DataPortability.org</a> on dev.live.com we learn 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
          <p>
            <em>Today Microsoft is announcing that it has joined DataPortability.org, a group
committed to advancing the conversation about the portability, security and privacy
of individuals’ information online.  There are important security and privacy
issues to solve as the internet evolves, and we are committed to being an integral
part of the industry conversation <font color="#ff0000">on behalf of our users.</font></em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>The decision to join DataPortability.org is an outgrowth of a deeper theme that
technology and the internet should be deployed to help people be at the center of
their online worlds, a theme that has begun to permeate our products and services
over the past few years. We believe the logical evolution of the internet is to enable
the removal of barriers to provide integrated, seamless experiences, but to <font color="#ff0000">do
so in a manner that ensures that users retain full control over the security and privacy
of their information</font>. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Windows Live is focused on providing tools and a platform to enable these types
of seamless experiences.  Windows Live has more than 420 million active Live
IDs that work across our services and across partner sites. </em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
I’m sure some folks are wondering exactly what this means. Even though I was close
to the decision making around this, I believe it is still too early to tell. Personally, <a href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/dataportabilityorg-gradually-eeking-its-way-out-of-the-reality-distortion-echo-chamber#comments">I
share Marc Canter’s skepticism about Dataportability.org</a> given that so far
there’s been a lot of hype but no real meat. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
However we have real problems to solve as an industry. The lack of interoperability
between various social software applications is troubling given that the Internet
(especially the Web) got to be a success today by embracing interoperability instead
of being about walled gardens fighting over who can build the prettiest gilded cage
for their <strike>prisoners</strike> customers. The fact that when interoperability
happens, it is in back room deals (e.g. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/confirmed-myspace-to-join-google-opensocial/">Google
OpenSocial</a>, <a href="http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/18/the-hard-side-of-mister-softie/">Microsoft’s
conversations with startups</a>, etc) instead of being open to all using standard
and unencumbered protocols is similarly troubling. Even worse, insecure practices
that expose social software users to privacy violations have become commonplace
due to the lack of a common framework for interoperability. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
As far as I can tell, <a href="http://www.dataportability.org/">Dataportability.org</a> seems
like a good forum for various social software vendors to start talking about how we
can get to a world where there is actual interoperability between social software
applications. I’d like to see real meat fall out of this effort not fluff. One of
the representatives Microsoft has chosen is the dev lead from the product team
I am on (Inder Sethi) which implies we want technical discussion of protocols
and technologies not just feel good jive. We’ll also be sending a product planning/marketing
type as well (John Richards) to make sure the end user perspective is also being covered. You
can assume that even though I am not on the working group in person, I will be there
in spirit since I communicate with both John and Inder on a regular basis. <img title="Smile" style="vertical-align: middle;" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /> 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
I’ll also be at the O’Reilly offices during <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII">Super
Bowl weekend</a> attending the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=o%27reilly+social+graph+foo+camp&amp;btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky">O’Reilly
Social Graph FOO Camp</a> which I hope will be another avenue to sit together with
technical decision makers from the various major social software vendors and talk
about how we can move this issue forward as an industry. 
</p>
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      <title>Microsoft Joins Dataportability.org</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:11:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
According to the blog post entitled&amp;nbsp;on &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/blogs/devlive/archive/2008/01/24/203.aspx"&gt;Microsoft
Joins DataPortability.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on dev.live.com&amp;nbsp;we learn 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Today Microsoft is announcing that it has joined DataPortability.org, a group
committed to advancing the conversation about the portability, security and privacy
of individuals’ information online.&amp;nbsp; There are important security and privacy
issues to solve as the internet evolves, and we are committed to being an integral
part of the industry conversation &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;on behalf of our users.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The decision to join DataPortability.org is an outgrowth of a deeper theme that
technology and the internet should be deployed to help people be at the center of
their online worlds, a theme that has begun to permeate our products and services
over the past few years. We believe the logical evolution of the internet is to enable
the removal of barriers to provide integrated, seamless experiences, but to &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;do
so in a manner that ensures that users retain full control over the security and privacy
of their information&lt;/font&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Windows Live is focused on providing tools and a platform to enable these types
of seamless experiences.&amp;nbsp; Windows Live has more than 420 million active Live
IDs that work across our services and across partner sites.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
I’m sure some folks are wondering exactly what this means. Even though I was close
to the decision making around this, I believe it is still too early to tell. Personally, &lt;a href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008/01/dataportabilityorg-gradually-eeking-its-way-out-of-the-reality-distortion-echo-chamber#comments"&gt;I
share Marc Canter’s skepticism about Dataportability.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;given that so far
there’s been a lot of hype but no real meat. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
However we have real problems to solve as an industry. The&amp;nbsp;lack of interoperability
between various social software applications is troubling given that the Internet
(especially the Web) got to be a success today by embracing interoperability instead
of being about walled gardens fighting over who can build the prettiest gilded cage
for their &lt;strike&gt;prisoners&lt;/strike&gt; customers. The fact that when interoperability
happens, it is in back room deals (e.g. &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/confirmed-myspace-to-join-google-opensocial/"&gt;Google
OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/18/the-hard-side-of-mister-softie/"&gt;Microsoft’s
conversations with startups&lt;/a&gt;, etc) instead of being open to all using&amp;nbsp;standard
and&amp;nbsp;unencumbered protocols is similarly troubling. Even worse, insecure practices
that expose&amp;nbsp;social software users to privacy violations have become commonplace
due to the lack of a common&amp;nbsp;framework for interoperability. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
As far as I can tell, &lt;a href="http://www.dataportability.org/"&gt;Dataportability.org&lt;/a&gt; seems
like a good forum for various social software vendors to start talking about how we
can get to a world where there is actual interoperability between social software
applications. I’d like to see real meat fall out of this effort not fluff. One of
the representatives Microsoft has chosen is the dev lead from&amp;nbsp;the product team
I am on (Inder Sethi) which&amp;nbsp;implies we want technical discussion of protocols
and technologies not just feel good jive. We’ll also be sending a product planning/marketing
type as well (John Richards) to make sure the end user perspective is also being covered.&amp;nbsp;You
can assume that even though I am not on the working group in person, I will be there
in spirit since I communicate with both John and Inder on a regular basis. &lt;img title="Smile" style="vertical-align: middle;" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
I’ll also be at the O’Reilly offices during &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII"&gt;Super
Bowl weekend&lt;/a&gt; attending the &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=o%27reilly+social+graph+foo+camp&amp;amp;btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky"&gt;O’Reilly
Social Graph FOO Camp&lt;/a&gt; which I hope will be another avenue to sit together with
technical decision makers from the various major social software vendors and talk
about how we can move this issue forward as an industry. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Now playing:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Bone%20Thugs%20%27N%20Harmony"&gt;Bone
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I Could Teach The World&lt;/a&gt;
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        <p>
I was reading the blog post entitled <a href="http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/18/the-hard-side-of-mister-softie/">The
hard side of Mister Softie</a> from Josh Quittner of Fortune magazine which
ends with the following excerpt
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p>
            <em>Hall said that Microsoft’s main concern, and the reason it sent out Big Foot letters
in the first place, was security. “If you look at what a number of sites are doing,
they’re asking for your Hotmail login info, They’re storing your identity, which is
not a best practices [approach] for anyone’s data from a security standpoint. We want
to make sure our data is kept between our users and our servers.”</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>The thrust of the term sheets, he said, was to create a process whereby Hotmail
and other Windows Live data could be shared securely with third parties. Added Hall:
“There are models for federation where you can trust other services—and that’s what
we’re trying to do with our partners.”</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <font color="#ff0000">Thats what doesn’t make sense to me. If this is such a security
problem, why do Google and Yahoo let their users take their contacts with them?</font>
            </em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Besides the obvious observation that folks at Google &amp; Yahoo! probably don’t
think it’s a good idea for random fly-by-night social networking services to be collecting 
usernames and password from users of their services (see posts like <a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/009370.html">Spock
sign-up flow demonstrates how to scare users away...</a> from Jeremy Zawodny
of Yahoo!), I am amused by the <em>“if the geniuses at Google and Yahoo! think it’s
OK, who are the Microsoft morons to think different”</em> sentiment
exposed by that statement<em>.</em></p>
        <p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Maybe I’m getting snarky in my old age. <img title="Wink" style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" alt="Wink" src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" /></p>
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          <strong>Now playing:</strong>
          <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Red Hot Chili Peppers">Red
Hot Chili Peppers</a> - <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Torture Me&amp;artistTerm=Red Hot Chili Peppers">Torture
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I was reading the blog post entitled &lt;a href="http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/18/the-hard-side-of-mister-softie/"&gt;The
hard side of Mister Softie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from Josh Quittner of Fortune magazine&amp;nbsp;which
ends with the following excerpt
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Hall said that Microsoft’s main concern, and the reason it sent out Big Foot letters
in the first place, was security. “If you look at what a number of sites are doing,
they’re asking for your Hotmail login info, They’re storing your identity, which is
not a best practices [approach] for anyone’s data from a security standpoint. We want
to make sure our data is kept between our users and our servers.”&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The thrust of the term sheets, he said, was to create a process whereby Hotmail
and other Windows Live data could be shared securely with third parties. Added Hall:
“There are models for federation where you can trust other services—and that’s what
we’re trying to do with our partners.”&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=#ff0000&gt;Thats what doesn’t make sense to me. If this is such a security
problem, why do Google and Yahoo let their users take their contacts with them?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;
Besides the obvious&amp;nbsp;observation that folks at Google &amp;amp; Yahoo! probably don’t
think it’s a good idea for random fly-by-night social networking services to be collecting&amp;nbsp;
usernames and password from users of their services (see posts like &lt;a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/009370.html"&gt;Spock
sign-up flow demonstrates how to scare users away...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from Jeremy Zawodny
of Yahoo!), I am amused by the &lt;em&gt;“if the geniuses at Google and Yahoo! think it’s
OK, who&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;the Microsoft morons&amp;nbsp;to think different”&lt;/em&gt; sentiment
exposed by that statement&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;
Maybe I’m getting snarky in my old age. &lt;img title=Wink style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" alt=Wink src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_wink.gif"&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Now playing:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Red Hot Chili Peppers"&gt;Red
Hot Chili Peppers&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Torture Me&amp;amp;artistTerm=Red Hot Chili Peppers"&gt;Torture
Me&lt;/a&gt;
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        <p>
In his blog post entitled <a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2008/01/joining-microsoft-live-labs.html">Joining
Microsoft Live Labs</a> Greg Linden writes
</p>
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          <p>
            <em>I am starting at </em>
            <a href="http://labs.live.com/">
              <em>Microsoft Live Labs</em>
            </a>
            <em> next
week.<br /><br />
Live Labs is an applied research group affiliated with Microsoft Research and MSN.
The group has the enjoyable goal of not only trying to solve hard problems with broad
impact, but also getting useful research work out the door and into products so it
can help as many people as possible as quickly as possible.<br /><br />
Live Labs is lead by </em>
            <a href="http://flakenstein.net/">
              <em>Gary Flake</em>
            </a>
            <em>,
the former head of Yahoo Research. It is a fairly new group, formed only two years
ago. Gary wrote a </em>
            <a href="http://labs.live.com/Live+Labs+Manifesto.aspx">
              <em>manifesto</em>
            </a>
            <em> that
has more information about Live Labs.</em>
            <br />
            <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Bitter Sweet Symphony&amp;artistTerm=The Verve">
            </a>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
when I found out <a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2007/09/findory-to-shut-down-november-1.html">Greg
was shutting down Findory</a> I thought myself that he’d be a great hire for Microsoft
especially since he already lived in the area. It seems someone else though the same
thing and now Greg has been assimilated. Congratulations, Greg.
</p>
        <p>
I seem to be bumping into more and more people who are either working for <strong>or</strong> with
Live Labs. Besides <a href="http://justinrudd.wordpress.com/">Justin Rudd</a> who
I just referred to the team, there’s <a href="http://themaimedleech.spaces.live.com/">Mike
Deem</a> and <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/~emeijer/">Erik Meijer</a>, two
people I know from my days on the XML team. I wonder what Gary Flake is cooking
up in those swanky offices in Bellevue that has so many smart folks gravitating to
his group?
</p>
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          <strong>Now playing:</strong>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In his blog post entitled&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2008/01/joining-microsoft-live-labs.html"&gt;Joining
Microsoft Live Labs&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Greg Linden writes
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I am starting at &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://labs.live.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Microsoft Live Labs&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; next
week.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Live Labs is an applied research group affiliated with Microsoft Research and MSN.
The group has the enjoyable goal of not only trying to solve hard problems with broad
impact, but also getting useful research work out the door and into products so it
can help as many people as possible as quickly as possible.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Live Labs is lead by &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://flakenstein.net/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gary Flake&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;,
the former head of Yahoo Research. It is a fairly new group, formed only two years
ago. Gary wrote a &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://labs.live.com/Live+Labs+Manifesto.aspx"&gt;&lt;em&gt;manifesto&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; that
has more information about Live Labs.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Bitter Sweet Symphony&amp;amp;artistTerm=The Verve"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
when I found out &lt;a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2007/09/findory-to-shut-down-november-1.html"&gt;Greg
was shutting down Findory&lt;/a&gt; I thought myself that he’d be a great hire for Microsoft
especially since he already lived in the area. It seems someone else though the same
thing and now Greg has been assimilated. Congratulations, Greg.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I seem to be bumping into more and more people&amp;nbsp;who are either working for &lt;strong&gt;or&lt;/strong&gt; with
Live Labs. Besides &lt;a href="http://justinrudd.wordpress.com/"&gt;Justin Rudd&lt;/a&gt; who
I just referred to the team, there’s &lt;a href="http://themaimedleech.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Mike
Deem&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://research.microsoft.com/~emeijer/"&gt;Erik Meijer&lt;/a&gt;, two
people I know from my days on the XML team.&amp;nbsp;I wonder what Gary Flake is cooking
up in those swanky offices in Bellevue that has so many smart folks gravitating to
his group?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Now playing:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Kool &amp;amp; The Gang"&gt;Kool
&amp;amp; The Gang&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Celebration&amp;amp;artistTerm=Kool &amp;amp; The Gang"&gt;Celebration&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <category>Mindless Link Propagation</category>
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        <p>
          <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Buchheit">Paul Buchheit</a>, creator of
Gmail now the founder of <a href="http://www.friendfeed.com">FriendFeed</a>, has a
blog post entitled <a href="http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2008/01/should-gmail-yahoo-and-hotmail-block.html">Should
Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail block Facebook?</a> where he writes 
</p>
        <blockquote>
          <i>Apparently <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/03/i-was-about-to-get-my-friends-email-addresses-out-of-facebook/">Facebook
will ban you</a> (or at least Robert Scoble) if you attempt to extract your friend's
email addresses from the service. Automated access is a difficult issue for any web
service, so I won't argue with their decision -- it's their service and they own you.
However, when I signed up for Facebook I gave them my Gmail address and password,
using their <a href="https://register.facebook.com/findfriends.php?tabs&amp;ref=friends">find
friends</a> feature:</i>
          <br />
...<br /><i>So the question is, should Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail block Facebook (or close the
accounts of anyone who uses Facebook's "friend finder") for violating their Terms
of Use?</i></blockquote>
        <p>
I don't want to single out Facebook here since pretty much every "Web 2.0" website
with social features is very in-your-face about asking for your credentials from your
email provider and then screen scraping your contact's email addresses. I just signed
up for <a href="http://www.twitter.com">Twitter</a> and the user interface makes it
cumbersome to even start using the service after creating an account without giving
up your email username and password. 
<br /></p>
        <p>
I think there are two questions here. The first is whether users should be able to
extract their data [including social graph data] from one service and import it into
another. I personally believe the answer is Yes and this philosophy underlies what
we've been working on at Windows Live and specifically <a href="http://dev.live.com/contacts">the
team I'm on</a> which is responsible for the <strike>social graph</strike> contacts
platform. 
</p>
        <p>
        </p>
The next question is whether screen scraping is the way to get this data? I think
the answer is <i>definitely not</i>. The first problem with this approach is that
when I give some random "Web 2.0" social network my email username and password, I’m
not only giving them access to my address book but also access to 
<ul><li>
my blog posts and all my photos (<a href="http://spaces.live.com/">http://spaces.live.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my travel history (<a href="http://www.expedia.com/">http://www.expedia.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my search history (<a href="http://www.google.com/psearch">http://www.google.com/psearch</a>) 
</li><li>
my personal email (<a href="http://www.hotmail.com/">http://www.hotmail.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my medical information (<a href="http://www.healthvault.com/">http://www.healthvault.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my business documents (<a href="http://www.officelive.com/">http://www.officelive.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my personal documents (<a href="http://docs.google.com/">http://docs.google.com</a>) 
</li><li>
my purchase history (<a href="https://checkout.google.com/">https://checkout.google.com</a>)</li><li>
and so on… 
</li></ul>
This seems like a lot of valuable data to trust  to some fly by night "Web 2.0" 
service that can't seem to hire a full time sys admin or a full rack in a data center
let alone know how to properly safeguard my personal information. 
<p></p><p>
Another problem with this approach is that it encourages users to give up their usernames
and passwords when prompted by any random Web site which increases incidences of phishing.
Some have gone as far as calling this approach <a href="http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2008/01/04/this-antipattern-is-kryptonite-to-the-open-social-web/">an
anti-pattern that is kryptonite to the Open Web</a>. 
<br /></p><p>
Finally, there is no way to identify the application that is accessing data on the
user's behalf if it turns out to be a malicious application. For example, if you read
articles like <a href="http://mashable.com/2007/09/02/quechup/">Are you getting Quechup
spammed</a> you'll note that there's been more than one incident where a "Web 2.0"
company turned out to either be spamming users via the email addresses they had harvested
in this manner or straight up just resold the email addresses to spammers. Have you
ever wondered how much spam you get because someone who has your email address blithely
gave up your email credentials to some social network site who in turn used a Web
service that is run by spammers to retrieve your contact details? 
<br /></p><p>
So if I think that user's should be able to get out their data yet screen scraping
isn't the way, what should we do? At Windows Live, we believe the right approach is
to provide user-centric APIs which allow users to grant and revoke permission to third
party applications to access their personal data. For the specific case of social
graph data, we've provided an <b>ALPHA</b><a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx">Windows
Live Contacts API</a> which is intended to meet exactly this scenario. The approach
taken by this API and similar patterns (e.g. using <a href="http://oauth.net/">OAuth</a>)
solves all three concerns I've raised above. 
</p><p>
Now given what I've written above, do you think Hotmail should actively block or hinder
screen scraping applications used to obtain the email addresses of a user's contacts?
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:48:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Buchheit"&gt;Paul Buchheit&lt;/a&gt;, creator of
Gmail now the founder of &lt;a href="http://www.friendfeed.com"&gt;FriendFeed&lt;/a&gt;, has a
blog post entitled &lt;a href="http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2008/01/should-gmail-yahoo-and-hotmail-block.html"&gt;Should
Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail block Facebook?&lt;/a&gt; where he writes 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Apparently &lt;a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/03/i-was-about-to-get-my-friends-email-addresses-out-of-facebook/"&gt;Facebook
will ban you&lt;/a&gt; (or at least Robert Scoble) if you attempt to extract your friend's
email addresses from the service. Automated access is a difficult issue for any web
service, so I won't argue with their decision -- it's their service and they own you.
However, when I signed up for Facebook I gave them my Gmail address and password,
using their &lt;a href="https://register.facebook.com/findfriends.php?tabs&amp;amp;ref=friends"&gt;find
friends&lt;/a&gt; feature:&lt;/i&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;
...&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;So the question is, should Gmail, Yahoo, and Hotmail block Facebook (or close the
accounts of anyone who uses Facebook's "friend finder") for violating their Terms
of Use?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I don't want to single out Facebook here since pretty much every "Web 2.0" website
with social features is very in-your-face about asking for your credentials from your
email provider and then screen scraping your contact's email addresses. I just signed
up for &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; and the user interface makes it
cumbersome to even start using the service after creating an account without giving
up your email username and password. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I think there are two questions here. The first is whether users should be able to
extract their data [including social graph data] from one service and import it into
another. I personally believe the answer is Yes and this philosophy underlies what
we've been working on at Windows Live and specifically &lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/contacts"&gt;the
team I'm on&lt;/a&gt; which is responsible for the &lt;strike&gt;social graph&lt;/strike&gt; contacts
platform. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
The next question is whether screen scraping is the way to get this data? I think
the answer is &lt;i&gt;definitely not&lt;/i&gt;. The first problem with this approach is that
when I give some random "Web 2.0" social network my email username and password, I’m
not only giving them access to my address book but also access to 
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my blog posts and all my photos (&lt;a href="http://spaces.live.com/"&gt;http://spaces.live.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my travel history (&lt;a href="http://www.expedia.com/"&gt;http://www.expedia.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my search history (&lt;a href="http://www.google.com/psearch"&gt;http://www.google.com/psearch&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my personal email (&lt;a href="http://www.hotmail.com/"&gt;http://www.hotmail.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my medical information (&lt;a href="http://www.healthvault.com/"&gt;http://www.healthvault.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my business documents (&lt;a href="http://www.officelive.com/"&gt;http://www.officelive.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my personal documents (&lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/"&gt;http://docs.google.com&lt;/a&gt;) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
my purchase history (&lt;a href="https://checkout.google.com/"&gt;https://checkout.google.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
and so on… 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
This seems like a lot of valuable data to trust&amp;nbsp; to some fly by night "Web 2.0"&amp;nbsp;
service that can't seem to hire a full time sys admin or a full rack in a data center
let alone know how to properly safeguard my personal information. 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Another problem with this approach is that it encourages users to give up their usernames
and passwords when prompted by any random Web site which increases incidences of phishing.
Some have gone as far as calling this approach &lt;a href="http://www.brianoberkirch.com/2008/01/04/this-antipattern-is-kryptonite-to-the-open-social-web/"&gt;an
anti-pattern that is kryptonite to the Open Web&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Finally, there is no way to identify the application that is accessing data on the
user's behalf if it turns out to be a malicious application. For example, if you read
articles like &lt;a href="http://mashable.com/2007/09/02/quechup/"&gt;Are you getting Quechup
spammed&lt;/a&gt; you'll note that there's been more than one incident where a "Web 2.0"
company turned out to either be spamming users via the email addresses they had harvested
in this manner or straight up just resold the email addresses to spammers. Have you
ever wondered how much spam you get because someone who has your email address blithely
gave up your email credentials to some social network site who in turn used a Web
service that is run by spammers to retrieve your contact details? 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So if I think that user's should be able to get out their data yet screen scraping
isn't the way, what should we do? At Windows Live, we believe the right approach is
to provide user-centric APIs which allow users to grant and revoke permission to third
party applications to access their personal data. For the specific case of social
graph data, we've provided an &lt;b&gt;ALPHA&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt; which is intended to meet exactly this scenario. The approach
taken by this API and similar patterns (e.g. using &lt;a href="http://oauth.net/"&gt;OAuth&lt;/a&gt;)
solves all three concerns I've raised above. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Now given what I've written above, do you think Hotmail should actively block or hinder
screen scraping applications used to obtain the email addresses of a user's contacts?
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      <title>Facebook Right, Scoble Wrong: Social Network Interoperability and the O'Reilly Social Graph FOO Camp</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
I&amp;rsquo;ve read a number of stories this week that highlight that interoperability
between social networking sites will be a &amp;ldquo;top ask&amp;rdquo; in 2008 (as we say
at Microsoft). Earlier this week I read the Wired article &lt;a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/magazine/16-01/ff_scraping?currentPage=all"&gt;Should
Web Giants Let Startups Use the Information They Have About You?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which does
a good job of telling both sides of the story when it comes to startups &lt;strike&gt;screen
scraping&lt;/strike&gt; importing user data&amp;nbsp;such as social graphs (i.e. friend and
contact lists)&amp;nbsp;from more successful sites as a way to bootstrap their social
networks. The Wired article is a good read if you want to hear all sides of the story
when it comes to the issue of sharing user social data between sites. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yesterday, I saw &lt;a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/02/1314233&amp;amp;from=rss"&gt;Social
Network Aggregation, Killer App in 2008?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which points out the problem that
users often belong to multiple social networks at once and that bridging between them
is key. However I&amp;nbsp;disagree with the premise that&amp;nbsp;this points to&amp;nbsp;need
for a&amp;nbsp;&amp;ldquo;Social Network Aggregator&amp;rdquo; category of applications. I personally&amp;nbsp;believe
that the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://mashable.com/2007/07/17/social-network-aggregators/"&gt;list
of 20 or so Social Network Aggregators on Mashable&lt;/a&gt; are all companies that would
cease to exist if the industry got off it&amp;rsquo;s behind and worked towards actual
interoperability between social networking sites. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Today, I saw saw &lt;a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/01/03/ive-been-kicked-off-of-facebook/"&gt;Facebook
disabled Robert Scoble&amp;rsquo;s account&lt;/a&gt;. After reading Robert&amp;rsquo;s account of
the incident, I completely agree with Facebook. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Why Robert Scoble is Wrong and Facebook is Right
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Here&amp;rsquo;s what Robert Scoble wrote about the incident 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
My account has been &amp;ldquo;disabled&amp;rdquo; for breaking Facebook&amp;rsquo;s Terms of
Use. I was running a script that got them to keep me from accessing my account&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;hellip;&lt;br /&gt;
I am working with a company to move my social graph to other places and that isn&amp;rsquo;t
allowable under Facebook&amp;rsquo;s terms of service. Here&amp;rsquo;s the email I received:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
+++++
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Hello,&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Our systems indicate that you&amp;rsquo;ve been highly active on Facebook lately and
viewing pages at a quick enough rate that we suspect you may be running an automated
script. This kind of Activity would be a violation of &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/terms.php"&gt;our
Terms of Use&lt;/a&gt; and potentially of federal and state laws. &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;As a result, your account has been disabled. Please reply to this email with a
description of your recent activity on Facebook. In addition, please confirm with
us that in the future you will not scrape or otherwise attempt to obtain in any manner
information from our website except as permitted by &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/terms.php"&gt;our
Terms of Use&lt;/a&gt;, and that you will immediately delete and not use in any manner any
such information you may have previously obtained. &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
The first thing to note is that &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; allows
you to extract your social graph data from their site using the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook
platform&lt;/a&gt;. In fact, right now whenever I get an email from someone on my Facebook
friend list in Outlook or I get a phone call from them, I see the picture from their
Facebook profile. I did this using &lt;a href="http://www.melsam.com/outsync/"&gt;OutSync &lt;/a&gt;which
is an application that utilizes the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook
platform&lt;/a&gt; to merge data from my contacts in Outlook/Exchange with my Facebook contacts. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
So if Facebook allows you to extract information about your Facebook friends via their
APIs, why would Robert Scoble need to run a screen scraping script? The fact is that
the &lt;a href="http://developers.facebook.com/documentation.php?v=1.0&amp;amp;method=users.getInfo"&gt;information
returned by the Facebook API about a user&lt;/a&gt; contains no contact information (no
email address, no IM screen names, no telephone numbers, no street address).&amp;nbsp;Thus
if you are trying to &amp;ldquo;grow virally&amp;rdquo; by spamming the Facebook friend&amp;nbsp;list
of one of your new users about the&amp;nbsp;benefits of your brand new Web 2.0 site&amp;nbsp;then
you have to screen scrape Facebook. &amp;nbsp;However there is the additional wrinkle
that unlike address books&amp;nbsp;in Web email applications &lt;strong&gt;Robert Scoble did
not enter any of this contact information about his friends&lt;/strong&gt;. With this in
mind, it is hard for Robert Scoble to argue that the data is &amp;ldquo;his&amp;rdquo; to
extract from Facebook.&amp;nbsp;In addition, as a Facebook user I consider it a &lt;em&gt;feature&lt;/em&gt; that
Facebook makes it hard for my personal data to be harvested in this way. Secondly,
since Robert&amp;rsquo;s script was screen scraping it means that&amp;nbsp;it had to hit the
site five thousand times (once for each of his contacts) to fetch all of&amp;nbsp;Robert&amp;rsquo;s&amp;nbsp;friends
personally idenitifiable information (PII). &amp;nbsp;Given that &lt;a href="http://legal.web.aol.com/decisions/dldecen/ebay.html"&gt;eBay
won a court injunction against Bidder&amp;rsquo;s Edge for running 100,000 queries a day&lt;/a&gt;,
it isn&amp;rsquo;t hard to imagine that the kind of screen scraping script that Robert
is using would be considered malicious even by a court of law. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
I should note that Facebook is being a bit hypocritical here since they do screen
scrape other sites to get the email addresses of the contacts of new users. This is
why I&amp;rsquo;ve called them &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/21/FacebookTheSocialGraphRoachMotel.aspx"&gt;the
Social Graph Roach Motel &lt;/a&gt;in the recent past.&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;O&amp;rsquo;Reilly Social Graph FOO Camp
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This past weekend I got an email from &lt;a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/27"&gt;Tim
O'Reilly&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.davidrecordon.com/"&gt;David Recordon&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://kveton.com/blog/"&gt;Scott
Kveton&lt;/a&gt; inviting me to a Friends of O&amp;rsquo;Reilly Camp (aka FOO Camp) dedicated
to &amp;ldquo;social graph&amp;rdquo; problems. I&amp;rsquo;m still trying to figure out if I
can make it based on my schedule and whether I&amp;rsquo;m really the best person to be
representing Microsoft at such an event given that I&amp;rsquo;m a technical person and
&amp;ldquo;social graph problems&amp;rdquo; for the most part are not technical issues. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Regardless of whether I am able to attend or not, there were some topics I wanted
to recommend should be added to a list of &amp;ldquo;red herring&amp;rdquo; topics that shouldn&amp;rsquo;t
be discussed until the important issues have been hashed out. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Google OpenSocial:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; This
was an example of unfortunate branding. Google should really have called this &amp;ldquo;Google
OpenWidgets&amp;rdquo; or &amp;ldquo;Google Gadgets for your Domain&amp;rdquo; since the goal
was competing with &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&amp;rsquo;s widget&amp;nbsp;platform&lt;/a&gt; not
actually opening up social networks. Since widget platforms aren&amp;rsquo;t a &amp;ldquo;social
graph problem&amp;rdquo; it doesn&amp;rsquo;t seem fruitful the spend time discussing this
when there are bigger fish to fry. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://groups.google.com/group/social-network-portability"&gt;Social
Network Portability:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; When startups talk about &amp;ldquo;social network portability&amp;rdquo;
it&amp;rsquo;s usually a euphemism for collecting a person&amp;rsquo;s username and password
for another site, retrieving their contact/friend list and spamming those people about
their hot new Web 2.0 startup. As a user of the Web, making it easier to receive spam
from startups isn&amp;rsquo;t something I think should be done let alone a &amp;ldquo;problem&amp;rdquo;
that needs solving.&amp;nbsp;I understand that lots of people will disagree with this
[even at Microsoft]&amp;nbsp;but I&amp;rsquo;m convinced that this is not the real problem
facing the &lt;strong&gt;majority&lt;/strong&gt; of users of social networking sites on the the
Web today. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;What I Want When It Comes to Social Network Interoperability
&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Having I&amp;rsquo;ve said what I don&amp;rsquo;t think is important to discuss when it comes
to &amp;ldquo;social graph problems&amp;rdquo;, it would be rude not to provide an example
fof what I think would be fruitful discussion. I wrote the problem I think we should
be solving as an industry a while back in a post entitled &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/13/AProposalForSocialNetworkInteroperabilityViaOpenID.aspx"&gt;A
Proposal for Social Network Interoperability via OpenID&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which is excerpted
below
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I have a &lt;a title="Dare Obasanjo's Facebook profile" href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Dare_Obasanjo/500050028"&gt;Facebook
profile&lt;/a&gt; while my &lt;strike&gt;fiancée&lt;/strike&gt; wife has a &lt;a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;amp;friendID=99552648"&gt;MySpace
profile&lt;/a&gt;. Since I&amp;rsquo;m now an active user of &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;,
I&amp;rsquo;d like her to be able to be part of my activities on the site such as being
able to view my photos, read my wall posts and leave wall posts of her own. I could
ask her to create a Facebook account, but I already asked her to create a &lt;a href="http://jennao52.spaces.live.com/"&gt;profile
on Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt; so we could be friends on that service and quite frankly
I don&amp;rsquo;t think she&amp;rsquo;ll find it reasonable if I keep asking her to jump from
social network to social network because I happen to try out a lot of these services
as part of my day job. So how can this problem be solved in the general case?&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
This is a genuine user problem which the established players have&amp;nbsp;little incentive
to fix. The data portability folks want to make it easy for you to jump from service
to service.&amp;nbsp;I want to make it easy for users of one service to talk to people
on another service. Can you imagine if email interoperability was achieved by making
it easy for Gmail users to export their contacts to Yahoo! mail instead of it being
that Gmail users can send email to Yahoo! Mail users and vice versa?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
Think about that. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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        <p>
Recently I’ve read a number of negative posts about the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">Facebook
Beacon</a> which highlight how easy it is for a company to completely misjudge
the privacy implications and ramifications of certain features in social software
applications. 
</p>
        <p>
Charlene Li, a Principal Analyst at Forrester Research who specializing in social
software trends and marketing, writes in her blog post <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html">Close
encounter with Facebook Beacon</a>  
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        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p>
            <em>I put a lot of trust in sites like Facebook to do the right thing when it comes
to privacy. After all, the only stuff that gets out into the public is the stuff that
I actually put in. Until now. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Earlier this week, I bought a coffee table on </em>
            <a href="http://www.overstock.com/">
              <em>Overstock.com</em>
            </a>
            <em>.
When I next logged into Facebook and saw this at the top of my newsfeed:</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <font color="#ff0000">
              <em>I was pretty surprised to see this, because I received no
notification while I was on Overstock.com that they had the </em>
            </font>
            <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">
              <font color="#ff0000">
                <em>Facebook
Beacon</em>
              </font>
            </a>
            <font color="#ff0000">
              <em> installed on the site. If they had,
I would have turned it off. </em>
            </font>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>I used my personal email address to buy the coffee table, so I was puzzled why
and how this "personal" activity was being associated with my "public" Facebook profile.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
David Treadwell, a corporate vice president of Windows Live, writes in his blog post
entitled <a href="http://davidtreadwell.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!556BCC6296CD41D7!899.entry">Blockbuster,
you're fired</a></p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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            <p>
              <em>Yesterday evening, I decided to add a few movies to my Blockbuster queue. Upon
adding movies, I was surprised to see toasts from Facebook showing up on the Blockbuster
site indicating that something was being added to my Facebook news feed. When I finished
adding movies, I went to Facebook to see what was going on. I was then quite surprised
to learn that Blockbuster and Facebook were conspiring to broadcast my movie selections
to my Facebook friends. </em>
            </p>
            <p>
              <em>I am not normally uptight about privacy issues, but you guys really crossed the
line on this one: </em>
            </p>
            <ul>
              <li>
                <em>
                  <font color="#ff0000">I had never told either Blockbuster or Facebook that you
should share my movie selections with friends.</font>
                </em>
              </li>
              <li>
                <em>Neither of you asked me if you could take this action. You just went ahead and
did it, assuming that I would not mind. </em>
              </li>
              <li>
                <em>This sharing of information about me without my informed consent about the mechanism
of sharing is absolutely unacceptable to me.</em>
              </li>
            </ul>
          </span>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
You can find similar complaints all over the Web from similarly Web savvy folks who
you typically don’t see griping about privacy issues. In all of the complaints raised,
the underlying theme is that Facebook violated the principle of <strong><a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/09/02/PutTheUserInControlOtherwiseThingsFallApart.aspx">putting
the user in control of their user experience</a></strong>. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
As someone who works on a competing service I have to give the folks on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a> credit
for shipping the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">Facebook Beacon</a> so
quickly. I assumed something like that was still about six months away from being
on their radar. I do give them poor marks when it comes to how this feature has been
rolled out. There are several problems with how this feature has been rolled out when
it comes to how it affects their users. 
</p>
        <ol dir="ltr">
          <li>
            <p>
              <strong>Linking identities and data sharing without user permission:</strong> One
of the thinks people have found creepy about this feature is that they are automatically
discovered to be Facebook users on sites that they have not told they use Facebook.
In Charlene’s case, she actually uses different email addresses to log in on both
sites which must have seemed even doubly weird to her at first. As Ethan Zuckerman
points out in his post <a href="http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2007/11/15/facebook-changes-the-norms-for-web-purchasing-and-privacy/">Facebook
changes the norms for web purchasing and privacy</a> this completely upturns
user expectations of how privacy on the Web works especially when it comes to
cookies.  
</p>
            <p>
It's a genuine concern that Facebook has opened a Pandora's box when you consider
what could happen if it is deemed socially acceptable for Web sites to use cookies
to <em>actively</em> identify users across sites as opposed to the passive way it
is done today. I’m sure the folks at Google would be excited about this since thanks
to <a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/">AdSense </a>and <a href="http://www.doubleclick.com/">DoubleClick</a>,
they  probably have cookies on every computer on the Web that has cookies turned
enabled in the Web browser. Today it’s <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a>,
tomorrow Amazon and eBay are posting your purchase history to every <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/">OpenSocial</a> enabled
web site courtesy of the cookies from these sites or from Google ads on
your machine. 
</p>
          </li>
          <li>
            <div>
              <strong>No global opt-out:</strong> There is no way to turn off this feature.
The best you get is that when a site tries to publish an update to your news feed
and mini-feed, you get an entry for the site added to your <a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php?view=unconfirmed_actions">Privacy
Settings for External Websites page on Facebook</a>. I guess it never occured to Mark
Zuckerburg and <a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7057627130">Justin
Rosenstein</a> that not sharing my purchase history with Facebook is a valid
privacy option. Why do I have to police this list and refer back to it every couple
of days to figure out if some new Web site is now publishing my private data to Facebook
without my permission?  
<p>
I expect that kind of myopia and hubris from the Googles and Microsofts of the world
not Facebook. Wow, the honeymoon lasted shorter than I expected. 
</p></div>
          </li>
        </ol>
        <p dir="ltr">
I suspect that Facebook will loathe fixing both issues. The first issue can’t really
be solved by having partner sites provide an opt-in mechanism because there is the
valid concern that (i) people won’t opt-in to the feature and (ii) the experience
and messaging will vary too much from site to site for users to have a consistent
set of expectations. This then points to Facebook having an opt-in page for partner
sites that is part of the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php?view=unconfirmed_actions">Facebook
settings page for this feature</a> but that may start getting away from the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">add
3 lines of code to reach millions of users</a> sales pitch which they have going.
Adding a global opt-out button is also similarly fraught with down side for Facebook. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
At this point, they’ll have to do something. I’ll be impressed if they address both
issues. Anything less is simply not good enough. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
          <strong>PS:</strong> The technically inclined folks in the audience should take a
look at Jay Goldman’s excellent <a href="http://www.radiantcore.com/blog/archives/23/11/2007/deconstructingfacebookbeaconjavascript">Deconstruction
of the Facebook Beacon Javascript</a>. Found via <a href="http://intertwingly.net/blog/2007/11/26/Deconstructing-Facebook-Beacon">Sam
Ruby</a>. 
</p>
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      <title>Some Thoughts on the Facebook Beacon</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:00:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Recently I’ve read a number of negative posts about the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon"&gt;Facebook
Beacon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which highlight how easy it is for a company to completely misjudge
the privacy implications and ramifications of certain&amp;nbsp;features in social software
applications. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Charlene Li, a Principal Analyst at&amp;nbsp;Forrester Research who specializing in social
software trends and marketing, writes in her blog post &lt;a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html"&gt;Close
encounter with Facebook Beacon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I put a lot of trust in sites like Facebook to do the right thing when it comes
to privacy. After all, the only stuff that gets out into the public is the stuff that
I actually put in. Until now. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Earlier this week, I bought a coffee table on &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.overstock.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Overstock.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.
When I next logged into Facebook and saw this at the top of my newsfeed:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;em&gt;I was pretty surprised to see this, because I received no
notification while I was on Overstock.com that they had the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon"&gt;&lt;font color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;em&gt;Facebook
Beacon&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;em&gt; installed on the site. If they had,
I would have turned it off. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I used my personal email address to buy the coffee table, so I was puzzled why
and how this "personal" activity was being associated with my "public" Facebook profile.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
David Treadwell, a corporate vice president of Windows Live, writes in his blog post
entitled &lt;a href="http://davidtreadwell.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!556BCC6296CD41D7!899.entry"&gt;Blockbuster,
you're fired&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;&lt;span id=ctl00_MainContentPlaceholder_ctl01_ctl00_lblEntry&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Yesterday evening, I decided to add a few movies to my Blockbuster queue. Upon
adding movies, I was surprised to see toasts from Facebook showing up on the Blockbuster
site indicating that something was being added to my Facebook news feed. When I finished
adding movies, I went to Facebook to see what was going on. I was then quite surprised
to learn that Blockbuster and Facebook were conspiring to broadcast my movie selections
to my Facebook friends. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I am not normally uptight about privacy issues, but you guys really crossed the
line on this one: &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=#ff0000&gt;I had never told either Blockbuster or Facebook that you should
share my movie selections with friends.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Neither of you asked me if you could take this action. You just went ahead and
did it, assuming that I would not mind. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;This sharing of information about me without my informed consent about the mechanism
of sharing is absolutely unacceptable to me.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
&gt;You can find similar complaints all over the Web from similarly Web savvy folks who
you typically don’t see griping about privacy issues. In all of the complaints raised,
the underlying&amp;nbsp;theme is that Facebook violated the principle of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/09/02/PutTheUserInControlOtherwiseThingsFallApart.aspx"&gt;putting
the user in control of their user experience&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
As someone who works on a competing service I have to give the folks on &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; credit
for shipping the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon"&gt;Facebook Beacon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;so
quickly. I assumed something like that was still about six months away from being
on their radar. I do give them poor marks when it comes to how this feature has been
rolled out. There are several problems with how this feature has been rolled out when
it comes to how it affects their users. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol dir=ltr&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Linking identities and data sharing without user permission:&lt;/strong&gt; One
of the thinks people have found creepy about this feature is that they are automatically
discovered to be Facebook users on sites that they have not told they use Facebook.
In Charlene’s case, she actually uses different email addresses to log in on both
sites which must have seemed even doubly weird to her at first. As Ethan Zuckerman
points out in his post &lt;a href="http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2007/11/15/facebook-changes-the-norms-for-web-purchasing-and-privacy/"&gt;Facebook
changes the norms for web purchasing and privacy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;this completely upturns
user expectations of how privacy on the Web&amp;nbsp;works especially when it comes to
cookies. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It's a genuine concern that Facebook has opened a Pandora's box when you consider
what could happen if it is deemed socially acceptable for Web sites to use cookies
to &lt;em&gt;actively&lt;/em&gt; identify users across sites as opposed to the passive way it
is done today. I’m sure the folks at Google would be excited about this since&amp;nbsp;thanks
to &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/"&gt;AdSense &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://www.doubleclick.com/"&gt;DoubleClick&lt;/a&gt;,
they &amp;nbsp;probably have cookies on every computer on the Web that has cookies turned
enabled in the Web browser. Today it’s &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;,
tomorrow Amazon and eBay are posting your purchase history to every &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/"&gt;OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt; enabled
web site&amp;nbsp;courtesy of&amp;nbsp;the cookies from these sites or from Google ads on
your machine. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;No global&amp;nbsp;opt-out:&lt;/strong&gt; There is no way to turn off this feature.
The best you get is that when a site tries to publish an update to your news feed
and mini-feed, you get an entry for the site added to your &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php?view=unconfirmed_actions"&gt;Privacy
Settings for External Websites page on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;. I guess it never occured to Mark
Zuckerburg and &lt;a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7057627130"&gt;Justin
Rosenstein&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;that not sharing my purchase history with Facebook is a valid
privacy option. Why do I have to police this list and refer back to it every couple
of days to figure out if some new Web site is now publishing my private data to Facebook
without my permission?&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;
I expect that kind of myopia and hubris from the Googles and Microsofts of the world
not Facebook. Wow, the honeymoon lasted shorter than I expected. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
I suspect that Facebook will loathe fixing both issues. The first issue can’t really
be solved by having partner sites provide an opt-in mechanism because there is the
valid concern that (i) people won’t opt-in to the feature and (ii) the experience
and messaging will vary too much from site to site for users to have a consistent
set of expectations. This then points to Facebook having an opt-in page for partner
sites that is part of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php?view=unconfirmed_actions"&gt;Facebook
settings page for this feature&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;but that may start getting away from the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon"&gt;add
3 lines of code to reach millions of users&lt;/a&gt; sales pitch which they have going.
Adding a global opt-out button is also similarly fraught with down side for Facebook. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
At this point, they’ll have to do something. I’ll be impressed if they address both
issues. Anything less is simply not good enough. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;PS:&lt;/strong&gt; The technically inclined folks in the audience should take a
look at&amp;nbsp;Jay Goldman’s excellent &lt;a href="http://www.radiantcore.com/blog/archives/23/11/2007/deconstructingfacebookbeaconjavascript"&gt;Deconstruction
of the Facebook Beacon Javascript&lt;/a&gt;. Found via &lt;a href="http://intertwingly.net/blog/2007/11/26/Deconstructing-Facebook-Beacon"&gt;Sam
Ruby&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <title>Embed Windows Live Messenger Anywhere on the Web</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:39:21 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
When I first saw the &lt;a href="http://www.meebome.com/"&gt;Meebo Me widget&lt;/a&gt;, I thought
it was one of the coolest things I&amp;rsquo;d ever seen on the Web. I immediately went
to chat with some folks on our team and the response was that they were already way
ahead of me. After a bunch of hard work, I&amp;rsquo;m glad to say that you can now &lt;a href="http://settings.messenger.live.com/applications/websettings.aspx"&gt;embed
the world&amp;rsquo;s most popular IM client into any Web page&lt;/a&gt; [including your blog
or favorite social networking site] and let anyone who&amp;rsquo;s visiting that page
chat with you while you&amp;rsquo;re online. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
More details can be found in Casey&amp;rsquo;s post on the Windows Live Messenger team&amp;rsquo;s
blog entitled &lt;a href="http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5B410F7FD930829E!30835.entry"&gt;Who
wants IMs from the web? I do! I do!&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;where she writes 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Windows Live&amp;trade; Messenger IM Control lets people on the Web reach you
in Messenger by showing your Messenger status on your web site, blog, or social networking
profile. The Windows Live&amp;trade; Messenger IM Control runs in the browser and lets
site visitors message you without installing Messenger first. The IM Control is supported
in IE6, IE7, and Firefox 2.0 on Windows and Firefox 2.0 on Mac OS. The IM Control
is supported in 32 languages. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;This is a nice addition to the IM button functionality announced in &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%215B410F7FD930829E%2130590.entry"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ali's
post&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; An important difference between the two is that the new Windows
Live&amp;trade; Messenger IM Control allows people to send you IMs without installing
Windows Live&amp;trade; Messenger, and the IM button requires that they have it installed
and are logged in.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I&amp;rsquo;ve already thrown it up on my Windows Live Space at &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/"&gt;http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;so
anyone who wants to chat with me in real time can holla at me&amp;nbsp;without having
to install any bits. &amp;nbsp;I expect it won&amp;rsquo;t be long before someone figures
out how to port it to the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which
is something I&amp;rsquo;d love to see. I&amp;rsquo;d do it myself but I have &lt;a href="http://www.rssbandit.org/"&gt;RSS
Bandit&lt;/a&gt; feature planning to work on&amp;nbsp;in my free time. &lt;img title="Smile" style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" / /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To prevent IM spam (aka SPIM), there is&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.aladdin.cs.cmu.edu/hips/"&gt;Human
Interactive Proof (HIP) challenge&lt;/a&gt; before a conversation can be initiated from
the Web. For users concerned about privacy and wondering if anyone can just copy &amp;amp;
paste some HTML, change some values and then spam you from the Web&amp;hellip;rest assured
this has been considered. In order for your online presence to be&amp;nbsp;detected or&amp;nbsp;IM
conversations begun from the Web, you first have to turn on this feature.&amp;nbsp;Safe
defaults and making sure our users are always in control of their Web experience is
key.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So what are you waiting for? &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Come over
and say hello&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
There's been a bunch of activity in the Windows Live world this week. The first bit
of news is that a service I've been wanting us to ship for a while is now in public
beta, &lt;a href="http://calendar.live.com"&gt;Windows Live Calendar&lt;/a&gt;. You can learn
more about it in the blog post titled &lt;a href="http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21CC9301187A51FE33%2145035.entry"&gt;Make
some plans with the new Windows Live Calendar beta!&lt;/a&gt; on the Windows Live Hotmail
team's blog which states 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;In the past few years, we’ve been investing heavily in building the best web e-mail
offering. But part of the team has also been intently focused on delivering the next-generation
web calendar: Windows Live Calendar. It’s been a long time coming and we’ve been pretty
hush-hush about it. Today, we’re finally ready to invite the world to try the new &lt;a href="http://calendar.live.com/"&gt;Windows
Live Calendar beta!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;
...&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;font&gt;Stay coordinated with friends and family&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;If you have a family, you know how difficult it is to coordinate schedules between
spouses and kids’ activities. If you’re a student, you know how consuming it is to
find time to meet for school projects with your classmates. By sharing schedules on
Windows Live Calendar, we take the chore out of coordination.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Share
as much or as little of your calendar with free/busy, read-only, or read/write permissions.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Send
friends a view-only secret link to your calendar so they don’t need to sign in with
a Windows Live ID.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;You can also make your calendar public, so if you’re running a business or an
organization that is keen on promoting events, you can make it easy for people to
find out what’s going on.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Get reminded&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sometimes we forget our commitments so Windows Live Calendar delivers you reminders
through e-mail, Windows Live Messenger, or an SMS message on your mobile phone. You
can also wake up to your upcoming schedule by including an RSS feed of your calendar
on your favorite home page like Live.com, or My.MSN.com. Because Windows Live Calendar
supports the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;iCal
standard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, you can add any ICS-based calendar you find on the Internet
so you don’t miss out on your favorite sports games, movie openings or upcoming holidays.&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;To
start, try our &lt;a href="http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/calendar/default.aspx?locale=en-US&amp;amp;page=importcalendar"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri" size="3"&gt;holiday
calendar list&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3"&gt; or go to
the &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.icalshare.com/"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri" size="3"&gt;iCalShare&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font face="Calibri"&gt;&lt;font mailto:antonia%20blume="" datetime="2007-10-28T12:23" color="#000000" size="3"&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;site.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;I've been using it quite a bit already and I have to say there's all sorts of
AJAXy goodness in the product which is also described in the blog post. The bit in
red font above is something I started of working with the Calendar team on until I &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/10/12/WindowsLiveEventsAndUpdatedWhatsNewPageOnWindowsLiveSpaces.aspx"&gt;switched
projects&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://ali.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Ali&lt;/a&gt; took it over. Congratulations
to the Calendar folks. I know they've been wanting to get this out for a while. Kudos
on a great beta. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;The next bit of Windows Live news is that you can now get a @live.com email
address by going to &lt;a href="http://get.live.com/getlive/overview"&gt;http://get.live.com/getlive/overview&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://www.windowslive.com/freshstart.html"&gt;http://www.windowslive.com/freshstart.html&lt;/a&gt; .
The latter page informs readers 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;Here's the deal—if you currently have an e-mail address with Hotmail.com
or MSN.com or a Microsoft Passport, you already have a Windows Live™ ID. Now you have
a choice:&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;• &lt;strong&gt;Keep your old account&lt;/strong&gt; and continue to enjoy all of your
favorite Windows Live services.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OR&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt; • &lt;strong&gt;Get a new Windows Live ID&lt;/strong&gt; (i.e., example@live.com) and
take advantage of your fresh start!&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;font&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;The page goes on to explain how to switch email addresses but still keep all
your information and contacts in &lt;a href="http://mail.live.com"&gt;Windows Live Hotmail&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://messenger.live.com"&gt;Windows
Live Messenger&lt;/a&gt;. The always up to date folks at LiveSide have a &lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/11/06/register-your-live-xx-email-now.aspx"&gt;comprehensive
list of all the @live.xx domains&lt;/a&gt; that are available to choose from. So what are
you waiting for? Get yours, I already got mine.&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;The final bit of news is that the next generation of Windows Live services and
desktop products is finally here. All the Windows Live desktop applications and &lt;i&gt;non-beta&lt;/i&gt; Web
properties have been refreshed. You can learn more at &lt;a href="http://www.windowslive.com"&gt;http://www.windowslive.com&lt;/a&gt; or
from the press release &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2007/nov07/WindowsLiveLaunchPR.mspx"&gt;Microsoft’s
Windows Live Free Online Services Available Now&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;I personally like some of the favorable press this release has garnered in press
such as Mary J Foley's article &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=912"&gt;Microsoft’s
Windows Live finally starting to come into its own&lt;/a&gt; which is excerpted below &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;Until recently, &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=58"&gt;Microsoft
has floundered badly when trying to explain exactly what Windows Live is&lt;/a&gt; and how
Live services and Live software complement Windows. Last year, the Windows Live team
was unveiling new services at a breakneck pace, but doing nothing to put them in context
or explain when/how Microsoft planned to take them final.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now Microsoft is starting to talk about different groupings of Windows Live
services and software. It is positioning the &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=692"&gt;Windows
Live Client Suite&lt;/a&gt; as what users should install on their home PCs. &lt;a href="http://home.live.com/"&gt;Home.live.com&lt;/a&gt; is
the starting point for users who want to “anywhere access” to their Windows Live services. &lt;a href="http://imagine-windowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Home/Default.aspx"&gt;Mobile.Live.com&lt;/a&gt; is
the home for Microsoft’s growing family of Live services for mobile phones and PDAs.
For those with smartphones, another option is a &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=666"&gt;client-style
suite of Live services for mobile devices&lt;/a&gt; (like what Nokia is providing now on
certain Windows Mobile phone models).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;&lt;i&gt;In the new Windows Live world order, the Windows Live taxonomy looks something
like this:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Windows Live Client Suite (single installer and updater; client-based software with
a services extension)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Windows Live Web Suite (service only)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;...&lt;/i&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Microsoft still has quite a way to go to make its Windows
Live story truly intuitive and understandable by non-Microsoft-watchers. But compared
to where the company was even a year ago, the Live team has come a long way.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;Nice. That's a pretty big compliment coming from a skeptic like Mary J. :) &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font&gt;With all the releases, it's now time for my favorite part. Figuring out what
we're going to ship next. Stay tuned. &lt;/font&gt;
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        <p>
In a post entitled <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/confirmed-myspace-to-join-google-opensocial/">Checkmate?
MySpace, Bebo and SixApart To Join Google OpenSocial (confirmed)</a> Mike Arrington
writes 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
          <p>
            <em>
              <font color="#ff0000">Google may have just come out of nowhere and checkmated
Facebook in the social networking power struggle.</font>
            </em>
          </p>
          <p>
…
</p>
          <p>
            <em>
              <strong>Update (12:30 PST): </strong>On a press call with Google now. This was
embargoed for 5:30 pm PST but they’ve moved the time up to 12:30 PST (now). Press
release will go out later this evening. My notes:</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>On the call, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said “we’ve been working with MySpace for
more than a year in secret on this” (likely corresponding to their </em>
            <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/07/google-pegged-to-search-myspace/">
              <em>advertising
deal </em>
            </a>
            <em>announced a year ago).</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>MySpace says their </em>
            <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/17/counterstrike-murdoch-dewolfe-annouce-myspace-platform-and-new-privacy-controls/">
              <em>new
platform efforts</em>
            </a>
            <em> will be entirely focused on OpenSocial.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>The press release names Engage.com, Friendster, hi5, Hyves, imeem, LinkedIn, Ning,
Oracle, orkut, Plaxo, Salesforce.com, Six Apart, Tianji, Viadeo, and XING as current
OpenSocial partners.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>We’re seeing a Flixster application on MySpace now through the OpenSocial APIs.
Flixster says it took them less than a day to create this. I’ll add screen shots below.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Here’s the big question - <strong>Will Facebook now be forced to join OpenSocial?</strong> Google
says they are talking to “everyone.” This is a major strategic decision for Facebook,
and they may have little choice but to join this coalition.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Bebo has also joined OpenSocial.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
I'm confused as to how Mike Arrington considers this a <i>checkmate</i> by Google.
At the end of the day, this announcement is simply that folks like <a href="http://www.slide.com/">Slide</a> and <a href="http://www.rockyou.com/">RockYou</a> don't
have to maintain multiple code bases for their widgets on various popular social networking
sites. In addition, it brings the widget/gadget platform on these sites to a similar
level to the <a href="http://developer.facebook.com/">Facebook platform</a>. Of course,
it won’t be on the same level unless it meets all the criteria from my post on <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/10/18/SocialNetworkingSitePlatformsHowDevelopersShouldEvaluateTheMySpacePlatformAndOthers.aspx">how
developers should evaluate the MySpace platform</a>. Which is unlikely since besides <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace</a><a href="http://www.myspace.com/"></a>,
none of those sites have the userbase or engagement of <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a> users
nor does any of them have the same kind of <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/07/the-top-5-viral-facebook-techniques/">viral
properties in distributing applications that Facebook platform has built-in</a>. 
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At the end of the day, will we see widget developers like the folks at <a href="http://www.ilike.com/">iLike</a>, <a href="http://www.slide.com/">Slide</a> or <a href="http://www.scrabulous.com/">Scrabulous</a> leave
the <a href="http://developer.facebook.com/">Facebook platform</a> because of
these announcements? Unlikely. 
</p>
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Will we see a mass migration from <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a> to <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace</a> or <a href="http://www.orkut.com/">Orkut</a> because
you can now add <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/">Flixster</a> or <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/scrabulous/">Scrabulous</a> to
your profile on these sites? Probably not. 
</p>
        <p>
So how is this a checkmate again? 
</p>
        <p>
OpenSocial simply keeps <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a>’s competitors
in the game. It is more like a successful <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castling">kingside
castle</a> than a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate">checkmate</a>. 
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In a post entitled&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/confirmed-myspace-to-join-google-opensocial/"&gt;Checkmate?
MySpace, Bebo and SixApart To Join Google OpenSocial (confirmed)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Mike Arrington
writes 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Google may have just come out of nowhere and checkmated
Facebook in the social networking power struggle.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Update (12:30 PST): &lt;/strong&gt;On a press call with Google now. This was
embargoed for 5:30 pm PST but they’ve moved the time up to 12:30 PST (now). Press
release will go out later this evening. My notes:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;On the call, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said “we’ve been working with MySpace for
more than a year in secret on this” (likely corresponding to their &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/07/google-pegged-to-search-myspace/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;advertising
deal &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;announced a year ago).&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;MySpace says their &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/17/counterstrike-murdoch-dewolfe-annouce-myspace-platform-and-new-privacy-controls/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;new
platform efforts&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; will be entirely focused on OpenSocial.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The press release names Engage.com, Friendster, hi5, Hyves, imeem, LinkedIn, Ning,
Oracle, orkut, Plaxo, Salesforce.com, Six Apart, Tianji, Viadeo, and XING as current
OpenSocial partners.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;We’re seeing a Flixster application on MySpace now through the OpenSocial APIs.
Flixster says it took them less than a day to create this. I’ll add screen shots below.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Here’s the big question - &lt;strong&gt;Will Facebook now be forced to join OpenSocial?&lt;/strong&gt; Google
says they are talking to “everyone.” This is a major strategic decision for Facebook,
and they may have little choice but to join this coalition.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Bebo has also joined OpenSocial.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
I'm confused as to how Mike Arrington considers this a &lt;i&gt;checkmate&lt;/i&gt; by Google.
At the end of the day, this announcement is simply that folks like &lt;a href="http://www.slide.com/"&gt;Slide&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.rockyou.com/"&gt;RockYou&lt;/a&gt; don't
have to maintain multiple code bases for their widgets on various popular social networking
sites. In addition, it brings the widget/gadget platform on these sites to a similar
level to the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt;. Of course,
it won’t be on the same level unless it meets all the criteria from my post on &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/10/18/SocialNetworkingSitePlatformsHowDevelopersShouldEvaluateTheMySpacePlatformAndOthers.aspx"&gt;how
developers should evaluate the MySpace platform&lt;/a&gt;. Which is unlikely since besides &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/"&gt;MySpace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
none of those sites have the userbase or engagement of &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; users
nor does any of them have the same kind of &lt;a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/07/the-top-5-viral-facebook-techniques/"&gt;viral
properties in distributing applications that Facebook platform has built-in&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At the end of the day, will we see widget developers like the folks at &lt;a href="http://www.ilike.com/"&gt;iLike&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.slide.com/"&gt;Slide&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;or &lt;a href="http://www.scrabulous.com/"&gt;Scrabulous&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;leave
the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;because of
these announcements? Unlikely. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Will we see a mass migration from &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/"&gt;MySpace&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://www.orkut.com/"&gt;Orkut&lt;/a&gt; because
you can now add &lt;a href="http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/"&gt;Flixster&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://apps.facebook.com/scrabulous/"&gt;Scrabulous&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to
your profile on these sites? Probably not. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So how is this a checkmate again? 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
OpenSocial simply keeps &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;’s competitors
in the game. It is more like a successful &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castling"&gt;kingside
castle&lt;/a&gt; than a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate"&gt;checkmate&lt;/a&gt;. 
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        <p>
There’s nothing like a successful company with a near monopoly to force the software
industry to come up with standards. Or in this case, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument">as
in many others</a>, force it’s competitors to band together and call what they are
doing the standard because more than one vendor supports it. 
</p>
        <p>
From TechCrunch’s article <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/">Details
Revealed: Google </a><a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial">OpenSocial</a><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/">(To
Launch Thursday</a><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/"></a> we
learn 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
          <p>
            <em>Google wants to create an easy way for developers to create an application that
works on all social networks. And if they pull it off, they’ll be in the center, controlling
the network. </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <big>
              <strong>
                <font size="4">
                  <em>What They’re Launching</em>
                </font>
              </strong>
            </big>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>OpenSocial is a set of three common APIs, defined by Google with input from partners,
that allow developers to access core functions and information at social networks:</em>
          </p>
          <ul>
            <li>
              <em>Profile Information (user data)</em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Friends Information (social graph)</em>
            </li>
            <li>
              <em>Activities (things that happen, News Feed type stuff)</em>
            </li>
          </ul>
          <p>
            <em>Hosts agree to accept the API calls and return appropriate data. Google won’t
try to provide universal API coverage for special use cases, instead focusing on the
most common uses. Specialized functions/data can be accessed from the hosts directly
via their own APIs.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>Unlike Facebook, OpenSocial does not have its own markup language (Facebook requires
use of FBML for security reasons, but it also makes code unusable outside of Facebook).
Instead, developers use normal javascript and html (and can embed Flash elements).
The benefit of the Google approach is that developers can use much of their existing
front end code and simply tailor it slightly for OpenSocial, so creating applications
is even easier than on Facebook.</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>
Similar details are available from folks like <a href="http://gigaom.com/2007/10/30/opensocial/">Om
Malik</a> and <a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/10/open-social-a-n.html">Marc
Andreesen</a>.  
</p>
        <p>
This is a brilliant move. I’ve blogged on multiple occassions that the disparate widget
platforms in social networking sites is a burden for widget developers and will lead
to a “winner takes all” situation because no one wants to support umpteen different
platforms. If enough momentum gains around <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial">OpenSocial</a>,
then three things will happen 
</p>
        <ul>
          <li>
Widget developers will start to favor coding to OpenSocial because it supports multiple
sites as well as targeting the <a href="http://developer.facebook.com/">Facebook platform</a>  </li>
          <li>
Eventually <a href="http://developer.facebook.com/">Facebook platform</a> developers
will start asking Zuckerburg and company to support <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial">OpenSocial</a> so
they only need to worry about one code base (kinda, it won’t be that easy)  </li>
          <li>
Other companies with proprietary widget platforms or plans to create one will bow
down to the tide and adopt <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial">OpenSocial</a></li>
        </ul>
        <p>
Of course, this requires a popular social networking site with a wide audience (e.g. <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace</a>) to
adopt the platform before we see this kind of traction. 
</p>
        <p>
However this is the only thing Google could have done that makes any sense. Building <a href="http://www.profy.com/2007/10/06/tagged-to-copy-facebook-platform-for-its-own-developer-offering/">a
clone of the Facebook platform</a> like some social networking sites planned would
have been dumb because that would be the tail wagging the dog. Similarly building
a competing proprietary platform would also have been dumb due to the <em>winner takes
all</em> problem I mentioned earlier. 
</p>
        <p>
This is the only move that has a chance of actually giving their anti-Facebook platform
a chance of being successful. 
</p>
        <p>
I wonder how my coworkers in Windows Live are going to take this news? 
</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:39:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There’s nothing like a successful company with a near monopoly to force the software
industry to come up with standards. Or in this case, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument"&gt;as
in many others&lt;/a&gt;, force it’s competitors to band together and call what they are
doing the standard because more than one vendor supports it. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From TechCrunch’s article &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/"&gt;Details
Revealed: Google &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial"&gt;OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/"&gt;(To
Launch Thursday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;we
learn 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Google wants to create an easy way for developers to create an application that
works on all social networks. And if they pull it off, they’ll be in the center, controlling
the network. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;big&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font size="4"&gt;&lt;em&gt;What They’re Launching&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/big&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;OpenSocial is a set of three common APIs, defined by Google with input from partners,
that allow developers to access core functions and information at social networks:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Profile Information (user data)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Friends Information (social graph)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Activities (things that happen, News Feed type stuff)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Hosts agree to accept the API calls and return appropriate data. Google won’t
try to provide universal API coverage for special use cases, instead focusing on the
most common uses. Specialized functions/data can be accessed from the hosts directly
via their own APIs.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Unlike Facebook, OpenSocial does not have its own markup language (Facebook requires
use of FBML for security reasons, but it also makes code unusable outside of Facebook).
Instead, developers use normal javascript and html (and can embed Flash elements).
The benefit of the Google approach is that developers can use much of their existing
front end code and simply tailor it slightly for OpenSocial, so creating applications
is even easier than on Facebook.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
Similar details are available from folks like&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://gigaom.com/2007/10/30/opensocial/"&gt;Om
Malik&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/10/open-social-a-n.html"&gt;Marc
Andreesen&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is a brilliant move. I’ve blogged on multiple occassions that the disparate widget
platforms in social networking sites is a burden for widget developers and will lead
to a “winner takes all” situation because no one wants to support umpteen different
platforms. If enough momentum gains around &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial"&gt;OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt;,
then three things will happen 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Widget developers will start to favor coding to OpenSocial because it supports multiple
sites as well as targeting the &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Eventually &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt; developers
will start asking Zuckerburg and company to support &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial"&gt;OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt; so
they only need to worry about one code base (kinda, it won’t be that easy) &amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Other companies with proprietary widget platforms or plans to create one will bow
down to the tide and&amp;nbsp;adopt &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial"&gt;OpenSocial&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Of course, this requires a popular social networking site with a wide audience (e.g. &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/"&gt;MySpace&lt;/a&gt;)&amp;nbsp;to
adopt the platform before we see this kind of traction. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
However this is the only thing Google could have done that makes any sense. Building &lt;a href="http://www.profy.com/2007/10/06/tagged-to-copy-facebook-platform-for-its-own-developer-offering/"&gt;a
clone of the Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt; like some social networking sites planned would
have been dumb because that would be the tail wagging the dog. Similarly building
a competing proprietary platform would also have been dumb due to the &lt;em&gt;winner takes
all&lt;/em&gt; problem I mentioned earlier. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is the only move that has a chance of actually giving their anti-Facebook platform
a chance of being successful. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I wonder how my coworkers in Windows Live are going to take this news? 
&lt;/p&gt;
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        </p>
        <p>
Via <a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2007/10/searchers-say-please-read-my-mind.html">Greg
Linden</a> I found the the summary of a recent survey 1,001 US adults conducted
by Kelton Research. The summary was posted on Search Engine Land in an article entitled <a href="http://searchengineland.com/071023-093541.php">Report:
7 Out Of 10 Americans Experience 'Search Engine Fatigue'</a> which states
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p>
The report discusses user frustration with clutter and the content of search results:
</p>
          <p>
            <i>When asked to name their #1 complaint about the process, 25 percent cited a deluge
of results, 24 percent cited a predominance of commercial (paid) listings, 18.8 percent
blamed the search engine’s inability to understand their keywords (forcing them to
try again), and 18.6 percent were most frustrated by disorganized/random results.</i>
          </p>
          <p>
There was also a desire among many users that search engines be able to "read their
minds":
</p>
          <p>
            <i>Kelton asked survey respondents whether they wished that search engines like Google
could, in effect, read their minds, delivering the results they were actually looking
for. . . That capability is something that 78 percent of all survey-takers “wished”
for, including 86.2 percent of 18-34 year-olds and 85 percent of those under 18.</i>
          </p>
          <p>
That sounds like an argument for search personalization. 
</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
Search personalization is just one of the many ways to deal with end user frustrations
with search results. For example, no amount of search personalization will be as effective
as statistical analysis to discover and automatically fix mispellings in search queries
(e.g. all the <a href="http://www.google.com/jobs/britney.html">misspellings of britney
spears</a> Google has to deal with). Without spelling correction, a user will
leave frustrated because they get few or no results when in truth they typed a misspelling
into the search box. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
The folks on the <a href="http://search.live.com/">Live Search</a> team have
a first in a series of blog posts about how they tackle the problem of determining
a user’s intent from their search queries entitled <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/livesearch/archive/2007/10/24/do-what-i-mean-not-what-i-say-part-1-of-2.aspx">“Do
what I mean, not what I say!” [Part 1 of 2]</a>. It contains the following excerpt 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p dir="ltr">
We've been working on returning the very best search results <i>for your intent</i>,
not just for the <i>particular search terms </i>that you happen to have chosen as
a vehicle to transmit that intent.  There's an important difference there and
it's been our focus for quite some time.
</p>
          <p dir="ltr">
…
</p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
            <b>AutoSpell Correction</b>
          </p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
The first example of this is our new AutoSpell feature.
</p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
If we are absolutely, completely, totally, "no doubt about it" confident you misspelled
one of your search terms, we automatically deliver a page that includes spell-corrected
results, rather than a page of misspelled results accompanied by a "Did you mean _______?"
link at the top.
</p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
For example, there's this pizza place near Microsoft called Pagliacci Pizza that is
fantastic.  The problem is that I can never remember the correct spelling of
the place.  My misspelled attempts are usually something along the lines of <a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Pagliaci+Pizza">Pagliaci
Pizza</a>, <a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Pagliaccis+Pizza">Pagliaccis
Pizza</a>, or <a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Paggliacci+Pizza">Paggliacci
Pizza</a>...
</p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
…
</p>
          <p mce_keep="true">
            <b>Stemming  </b>
          </p>
          <p>
Another improvement in the "Do what I mean, not what I say" category is stemming. 
Stemming means matching on the "stem" (or root) of the word rather than the exact
word.
</p>
          <p>
For example, users told us that the search <a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=half+price+book+redmond">half
price <b>book</b> Redmond</a> returned horrible results.  Searching for <a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=half+price+books+redmond">half
price <b>books</b> Redmond</a> produced much better results.   In our new
release of Live Search, searches for half price <b>book</b> Redmond automatically
include results with <b>books</b> in them as well.
</p>
          <p>
Our team knew that tackling stemming would give us the improvements we needed for
searches like these.  But we had to be careful, because you can't just stem all
the time-you have to be smart about it.  An example of this is the word cable. 
When you search for "cable," you could be looking for information on cable TV providers. 
When you search for "cables", you could be looking for power, telephone, or network
cables.  
</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
These are just two techniques beyond just personalization which gives users better
satisfaction with their search results and the impression that the search engine
is “reading their mind”. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
The main problem I have with personalization is that you need to give the search
engine a private, personal information amount of information before it has tangible
effects on search results. In the recent past, Marissa Mayer has pointed out that
user studies have shown that <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/26/GoogleScalabilityConferenceTripReportScalingGoogleForEveryUser.aspx">location
is the only significant factor which impacts perception of the relevance of search
results</a> when it comes to personalization. I suspect that true personalization
will come from doing things like analysing <a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/recent/">my
profile</a> or <a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/friends/">my <strike>social
graph</strike> friends list</a> instead of the approach popularized by Google
Personalized Search where previous search queries are analyzed. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
Of course, we live in an era when <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/174922991/poll_us_attitudes_about_intern_1.php">10%
of the Internet population doesn’t see anything wrong with brain implants to connect
them to the Web</a> so maybe I’m being paranoid when I worry that the next major leap
in search engine relevance will only occur after we allow search engines to spy
on us. 
</p>
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      <title>Search Engines as Mind Readers</title>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Via &lt;a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2007/10/searchers-say-please-read-my-mind.html"&gt;Greg
Linden&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I found the the summary of a recent survey 1,001 US adults conducted
by Kelton Research. The summary was posted on Search Engine Land in an article entitled &lt;a href="http://searchengineland.com/071023-093541.php"&gt;Report:
7 Out Of 10 Americans Experience 'Search Engine Fatigue'&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which states
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
The report discusses user frustration with clutter and the content of search results:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;When asked to name their #1 complaint about the process, 25 percent cited a deluge
of results, 24 percent cited a predominance of commercial (paid) listings, 18.8 percent
blamed the search engine’s inability to understand their keywords (forcing them to
try again), and 18.6 percent were most frustrated by disorganized/random results.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There was also a desire among many users that search engines be able to "read their
minds":
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Kelton asked survey respondents whether they wished that search engines like Google
could, in effect, read their minds, delivering the results they were actually looking
for. . . That capability is something that 78 percent of all survey-takers “wished”
for, including 86.2 percent of 18-34 year-olds and 85 percent of those under 18.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That sounds like an argument for search personalization. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
Search personalization is just one of the many ways to deal with end user frustrations
with search results. For example, no amount of search personalization will be as effective
as statistical analysis to discover and automatically fix mispellings in search queries
(e.g. all the &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/jobs/britney.html"&gt;misspellings of britney
spears&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Google has to deal with). Without spelling correction, a user will
leave frustrated because they get few or no results when in truth they typed a misspelling
into the search box. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
The folks&amp;nbsp;on the &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/"&gt;Live Search&lt;/a&gt; team have
a first in a series of blog posts about how they tackle the problem of determining
a user’s intent from their search queries&amp;nbsp;entitled &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/livesearch/archive/2007/10/24/do-what-i-mean-not-what-i-say-part-1-of-2.aspx"&gt;“Do
what I mean, not what I say!” [Part 1 of 2]&lt;/a&gt;. It contains the following excerpt 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
We've been working on returning the very best search results &lt;i&gt;for your intent&lt;/i&gt;,
not just for the &lt;i&gt;particular search terms &lt;/i&gt;that you happen to have chosen as
a vehicle to transmit that intent.&amp;nbsp; There's an important difference there and
it's been our focus for quite some time.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;AutoSpell Correction&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
The first example of this is our new AutoSpell feature.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
If we are absolutely, completely, totally, "no doubt about it" confident you misspelled
one of your search terms, we automatically deliver a page that includes spell-corrected
results, rather than a page of misspelled results accompanied by a "Did you mean _______?"
link at the top.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
For example, there's this pizza place near Microsoft called Pagliacci Pizza that is
fantastic.&amp;nbsp; The problem is that I can never remember the correct spelling of
the place.&amp;nbsp; My misspelled attempts are usually something along the lines of &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Pagliaci+Pizza"&gt;Pagliaci
Pizza&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Pagliaccis+Pizza"&gt;Pagliaccis
Pizza&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Paggliacci+Pizza"&gt;Paggliacci
Pizza&lt;/a&gt;...
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p mce_keep="true"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Stemming&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Another improvement in the "Do what I mean, not what I say" category is stemming.&amp;nbsp;
Stemming means matching on the "stem" (or root) of the word rather than the exact
word.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For example, users told us that the search &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=half+price+book+redmond"&gt;half
price &lt;b&gt;book&lt;/b&gt; Redmond&lt;/a&gt; returned horrible results.&amp;nbsp; Searching for &lt;a href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=half+price+books+redmond"&gt;half
price &lt;b&gt;books&lt;/b&gt; Redmond&lt;/a&gt; produced much better results.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;In our new
release of Live Search, searches for half price &lt;b&gt;book&lt;/b&gt; Redmond automatically
include results with &lt;b&gt;books&lt;/b&gt; in them as well.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Our team knew that tackling stemming would give us the improvements we needed for
searches like these.&amp;nbsp; But we had to be careful, because you can't just stem all
the time-you have to be smart about it.&amp;nbsp; An example of this is the word cable.&amp;nbsp;
When you search for "cable," you could be looking for information on cable TV providers.&amp;nbsp;
When you search for "cables", you could be looking for power, telephone, or network
cables.&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
These are just two techniques beyond just personalization which gives users better
satisfaction with their search results and the impression that the search&amp;nbsp;engine
is “reading their mind”. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
The main problem I have with personalization is&amp;nbsp;that you need to give the search
engine a private, personal information amount of information before it has tangible
effects on search results. In the recent past, Marissa Mayer has pointed out that
user studies have shown that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/06/26/GoogleScalabilityConferenceTripReportScalingGoogleForEveryUser.aspx"&gt;location
is the only significant factor which impacts perception of the relevance of search
results&lt;/a&gt; when it comes to personalization. I&amp;nbsp;suspect that true personalization
will come from doing things like analysing &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/recent/"&gt;my
profile&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/friends/"&gt;my &lt;strike&gt;social
graph&lt;/strike&gt; friends list&lt;/a&gt; instead of the approach popularized&amp;nbsp;by Google
Personalized Search where previous search queries are analyzed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
Of course, we live in an era when &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/174922991/poll_us_attitudes_about_intern_1.php"&gt;10%
of the Internet population doesn’t see anything wrong with brain implants to connect
them to the Web&lt;/a&gt; so maybe I’m being paranoid when I worry that the next major leap
in search engine relevance will only occur&amp;nbsp;after we allow search engines to spy
on us. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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Know What You Want (feat. Mariah Carey)&lt;/a&gt;
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        <p>
The folks at LiveSide have a blog post entitled <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/archive/2007/10/24/windows-live-spaces-at-a-crossroads-will-the-us-catch-up-to-the-world.aspx">Windows
Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?</a> which contains
some interesting charts from <a href="http://www.comscore.com/">ComScore</a>. Specifically
they call out the difference in the worldwide reach of various social networking services
versus the North American reach. The relevant excerpt from the post is 
</p>
        <blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <p>
            <em>As expected, MySpace is in a runaway lead, Facebook is coming on strong, Blogger
is hanging in there, and Spaces pretty much brings up the rear.  If you read
the blogs and follow Techmeme, TechCrunch, and Scoble, these numbers aren't anything
surprising.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>But take a look at the Worldwide numbers, and a somewhat different story emerges.</em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <strong>
              <em>Social Networking Sites - Worldwide: Unique visitors per month (000)</em>
            </strong>
          </p>
          <p>
            <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/WindowsLiveWriter/WindowsLiveSpacesatacrossroadswilltheUSc_13C43/Worldwide.png" target="_blank">
              <em>
                <img id="id" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" height="292" alt="Worldwide" src="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/WindowsLiveWriter/WindowsLiveSpacesatacrossroadswilltheUSc_13C43/Worldwide_thumb.png" width="600" border="0" />
              </em>
            </a>
            <em>
            </em>
          </p>
          <p>
            <em>While Facebook is growing steadily worldwide, here the numbers tell a far different
story.  Windows Live Spaces is battling it out with Blogger and MySpace for the
top spot.  Just for reference, we can see that the Worldwide usage of Social
Networking sites is growing steadily:</em>
          </p>
        </blockquote>
        <p dir="ltr">
You might quibble with the title of this blog post but it is hard to argue that <a href="http://www.blogspot.com/">Blogger</a> is
a social networking site by <a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/.../08/30/TheDifferenceBetweenASocialNetworkSiteASocialGraphApplicationAndASocialOS.aspx">any
definition of the term</a>. When it comes to reach, no social networking site impacts
as many users as <a href="http://spaces.live.com/">Windows Live Spaces</a>. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
Of course, unique users aren’t the only metric Web sites are judged against and I’m
sure there are many out there who will be quick to point out <a href="http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/top-social-networks-for-engagement-some-suprises/">other
charts that show our user engagement is lower than average</a> which is a fair
point. Personally, I suspect that the inclusion of <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!884.entry">the
improved What’s New page</a> will increase user engagement in a measurable way. It
might just be me but I find myself visiting my What’s New page several times a day,
in fact more often than I visit my Facebook news feed. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
According to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a>, the addition of the
News Feed increased their page views by 70% in the first few months. I wonder if
we’ll see a similar jump in the ComScore charts for <a href="http://spaces.live.com/">Windows
Live Spaces</a> in a few months or whether FB’s results were an abberration. Only
time will tell. 
</p>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The folks at LiveSide have a blog post entitled &lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/archive/2007/10/24/windows-live-spaces-at-a-crossroads-will-the-us-catch-up-to-the-world.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Spaces at a crossroads: will the US catch up to the world?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which contains
some interesting charts from &lt;a href="http://www.comscore.com/"&gt;ComScore&lt;/a&gt;. Specifically
they call out the difference in the worldwide reach of various social networking services
versus the North American reach. The relevant excerpt from the post is 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;As expected, MySpace is in a runaway lead, Facebook is coming on strong, Blogger
is hanging in there, and Spaces pretty much brings up the rear.&amp;nbsp; If you read
the blogs and follow Techmeme, TechCrunch, and Scoble, these numbers aren't anything
surprising.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;But take a look at the Worldwide numbers, and a somewhat different story emerges.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Social Networking Sites - Worldwide: Unique visitors per month (000)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/WindowsLiveWriter/WindowsLiveSpacesatacrossroadswilltheUSc_13C43/Worldwide.png" target=_blank&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img id=id style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" height=292 alt=Worldwide src="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/WindowsLiveWriter/WindowsLiveSpacesatacrossroadswilltheUSc_13C43/Worldwide_thumb.png" width=600 border=0&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;While Facebook is growing steadily worldwide, here the numbers tell a far different
story.&amp;nbsp; Windows Live Spaces is battling it out with Blogger and MySpace for the
top spot.&amp;nbsp; Just for reference, we can see that the Worldwide usage of Social
Networking sites is growing steadily:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
You might quibble with the title of this blog post but it is hard to argue that &lt;a href="http://www.blogspot.com/"&gt;Blogger&lt;/a&gt; is
a social networking site by &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/.../08/30/TheDifferenceBetweenASocialNetworkSiteASocialGraphApplicationAndASocialOS.aspx"&gt;any
definition of the term&lt;/a&gt;. When it comes to reach, no social networking site impacts
as many users as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://spaces.live.com/"&gt;Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
Of course, unique users aren’t the only metric Web sites are judged against and I’m
sure there are many out there who will be quick to point out &lt;a href="http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/top-social-networks-for-engagement-some-suprises/"&gt;other
charts that show our user engagement is lower than average&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which is a fair
point.&amp;nbsp;Personally, I suspect that the inclusion of &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3C8CA60F8F925FEC!884.entry"&gt;the
improved What’s New page&lt;/a&gt; will increase user engagement in a measurable way. It
might just be me but I find myself visiting my What’s New page several times a day,
in fact more often than I visit my Facebook news feed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
According to &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;, the addition of the
News Feed increased their page views by 70% in the first few months. I wonder&amp;nbsp;if
we’ll see a similar jump in the ComScore charts for &lt;a href="http://spaces.live.com/"&gt;Windows
Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt; in a few months or whether FB’s results were an abberration. Only
time will tell. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Now playing:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Raekwon"&gt;Raekwon&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Guillotine (Swordz) (feat. Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck &amp;amp; GZA/Genius)&amp;amp;artistTerm=Raekwon"&gt;Guillotine
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        <p>
For a while, I’ve been jealous of the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/?method=flickr.people.findByUsername">Flickr
API Explorer</a> and the <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/tools.php?api">Facebook
API Test console</a>. So I started building one for the <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx">Windows
Live Contacts API</a> last week only to find out that there was already one out there
which hadn’t been sufficiently publicized. 
</p>
        <p>
If you’re a developer interested in seeing what the <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx">Windows
Live Contacts API</a> offers and already have a Windows Live ID (formerly
Passport account) then mosey on down to the the <a href="https://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/">Live
Data Interactive SDK page</a>. Once you get there, click on the link that says <a href="https://ux.cumulus.services.live.com/pgux/default.aspx?rl=https://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/Default.aspx&amp;pl=http://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/Privacy.htm&amp;ps=LiveContacts.ReadWrite">Click
to Request Permission</a> , scroll down and hit [Give Access] to give the page
access to your Windows Live address book. Once redirected, click “Work with Contacts”
and then you can create, retrieve, update and delete people from your <a href="http://www.hotmail.com/">Hotmail </a>and <a href="http://messenger.live.com/">Messenger</a> contact
lists using a simple RESTful protocol with direct access to the XML responses. 
</p>
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Below is a screenshot of me retrieving my <a href="http://messenger.live.com/">Messenger</a> contact
using the interactive SDK. 
</p>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For a while, I’ve been jealous of the &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/?method=flickr.people.findByUsername"&gt;Flickr
API Explorer&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://developers.facebook.com/tools.php?api"&gt;Facebook
API Test console&lt;/a&gt;. So I started building one for the &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt; last week only to find out that there was already one out there
which hadn’t been sufficiently publicized. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If you’re a developer interested in seeing what the &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463989.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;offers and already have a Windows Live ID&amp;nbsp;(formerly
Passport&amp;nbsp;account) then mosey on down to the&amp;nbsp;the &lt;a href="https://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/"&gt;Live
Data Interactive SDK page&lt;/a&gt;. Once you get there, click on the link that says &lt;a href="https://ux.cumulus.services.live.com/pgux/default.aspx?rl=https://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/Default.aspx&amp;amp;pl=http://dev.live.com/livedata/sdk/Privacy.htm&amp;amp;ps=LiveContacts.ReadWrite"&gt;Click
to Request Permission&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;, scroll down and hit [Give Access] to give the page
access to your Windows Live address book. Once redirected,&amp;nbsp;click “Work with Contacts”
and then you can create, retrieve, update and delete people from your &lt;a href="http://www.hotmail.com/"&gt;Hotmail &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://messenger.live.com/"&gt;Messenger&lt;/a&gt; contact
lists using a simple RESTful protocol&amp;nbsp;with direct access&amp;nbsp;to the XML&amp;nbsp;responses.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Below is a screenshot of me retrieving my &lt;a href="http://messenger.live.com/"&gt;Messenger&lt;/a&gt; contact
using the interactive SDK. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/content/binary/livecontactsapi.JPG" border=0&gt;
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        <p>
It looks like my favorite team in Windows Live scored another hit with their recent
release. You can see it for yourself by going to <a href="http://maps.live.com/">http://maps.live.com</a>.
The product team has a huge list of the new changes in their post <a href="http://virtualearth.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2BBC66E99FDCDB98!9276.entry">Live
Search Maps v2 is out! Gemini Launches</a> which list a number of significant
features including 
</p>
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            <li>
generic directions to a specific location (e.g. if coming from I-5 North vs. if coming
from I-5 South) without a specific starting point. I believe this is formally called <em>1–click
directions</em>. 
</li>
            <li>
the ability to have the directions route around bad traffic</li>
            <li>
the ability to import <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoRSS">GeoRSS</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPX">GPX</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language">KML</a> files
as collections 
</li>
            <li>
increased metadata about businesses from partner companies like InfoUSA, CitySearch,
and Gayot. 
</li>
          </ul>
        </ul>
        <p dir="ltr">
Surprisingly, my favorite features of the new release don’t seem to have been mentioned.
The <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/10/04/live-search-maps-the-best-is-yet-to-come.aspx">removal
of dual search boxes</a> along with some of the other user interface niceties such
as suggesting “Work” or “Home” when a user attempts to save a location are just great. 
</p>
        <p dir="ltr">
There was also a bug in the driving directions to my house from Redmond which
was also fixed in this release. I never even got around to mentioning it
to the team. Now that’s what I call service.  
</p>
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          <strong>Now playing:</strong>
          <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Lil Wayne">Lil
Wayne</a> - <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Go DJ (Remix) (feat. Slim Thug &amp; Mannie Fresh)&amp;artistTerm=Lil Wayne">Go
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      <title>The New maps.live.com is Hot</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;
It looks like my favorite team in Windows Live scored another hit with their recent
release. You can see it for yourself by going to &lt;a href="http://maps.live.com/"&gt;http://maps.live.com&lt;/a&gt;.
The product team has a huge list of the new changes in their post &lt;a href="http://virtualearth.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2BBC66E99FDCDB98!9276.entry"&gt;Live
Search Maps v2 is out! Gemini Launches&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;which list a number of significant
features including 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
generic directions to a specific location (e.g. if coming from I-5 North vs. if coming
from I-5 South) without a specific starting point. I believe this is formally called &lt;em&gt;1–click
directions&lt;/em&gt;. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
the ability to have the directions route around bad traffic&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
the ability to import &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoRSS"&gt;GeoRSS&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPX"&gt;GPX&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language"&gt;KML&lt;/a&gt; files
as collections 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
increased metadata about businesses from partner companies like InfoUSA, CitySearch,
and Gayot. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
Surprisingly, my favorite features of the new release don’t seem to have been mentioned.
The &lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/10/04/live-search-maps-the-best-is-yet-to-come.aspx"&gt;removal
of dual search boxes&lt;/a&gt; along with some of the other user interface niceties such
as suggesting “Work” or “Home” when a user attempts to save a location are just great. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir=ltr&gt;
There was also a bug in the driving directions to my house from Redmond&amp;nbsp;which
was also fixed in this release. I&amp;nbsp;never&amp;nbsp;even got around to mentioning it
to the team. Now that’s what I call service. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Now playing:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?artistTerm=Lil Wayne"&gt;Lil
Wayne&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?songTerm=Go DJ (Remix) (feat. Slim Thug &amp;amp; Mannie Fresh)&amp;amp;artistTerm=Lil Wayne"&gt;Go
DJ (Remix) (feat. Slim Thug &amp;amp; Mannie Fresh)&lt;/a&gt;
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      <title>The Web is the Platform: On Microsoft's Social Graph API Strategy</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;
Mary Jo Foley has a delightful post entitled &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=833"&gt;Are
all &amp;lsquo;open&amp;rsquo; Web platforms created equal?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;where she wonders why
there is more hype around &lt;a href="http://developer.facebook.com/"&gt;the Facebook platform&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/21/google-to-out-open-facebook-on-november-5/"&gt;Google&amp;rsquo;s
muched hyped attempt to counter it on November 5th&lt;/a&gt; and other efforts&amp;nbsp;that &lt;a href="http://www.dashes.com/anil/2007/10/rainman-blackbird-facebook-and-the-new-tables.html"&gt;Anil
Dash has accurately described as the new Blackbird&lt;/a&gt; as opposed to open API efforts
from Microsoft. She posits two theories which are excerpted below 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Who isn&amp;rsquo;t mentioned in any of these conversations? Microsoft. Is it because
Microsoft hasn&amp;rsquo;t opened up its various Windows Live APIs to other developers?
Nope. Microsoft announced in late April its plans for &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=413"&gt;&lt;em&gt;opening
up and providing licensing terms for several of its key Windows Live APIs&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;,
including Windows Live Contacts, Windows Live Spaces Photo Control and Windows Live
Data Protocols.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;So why is Microsoft seemingly irrelevant to the conversation, when it comes to
opening up its Web platform? There are a few different theories.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;I think the excitement about the Facebook platform stems from the fact
that it addresses the problem of building publicity and distribution for a new application.
Any developer can create an application for Facebook, and the social network will
help propagate that application, exposing it to new users,&amp;rdquo; said Matt Rosoff,
an analyst with Directions on Microsoft.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&amp;hellip;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Microsoft, for its part, believes it is offering Web platform APIs the way that
developers want, making them available under different business terms and permitting
third parties to customize them inside their own sites, according to George Moore,
General Manager of Windows Live. But Moore also acknowledges Microsoft has a different
outlook in terms of which data it exposes via its APIs.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;Facebook gives you access to your social-graph (social-networking) data.
We don&amp;rsquo;t do that. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://dev.live.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;We have a gallery&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; that
allows users to extend Live Spaces,&amp;rdquo; Moore said.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Moore declined to comment on when or if Microsoft planned to allow developers
to tap directly into user&amp;rsquo;s social-graph data like Facebook has done.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
I see GeorgeM all the time, so I doubt he&amp;rsquo;ll mind if I clarify his statement
above since it gives the wrong impression of our efforts given the context in which
it was placed. If we go back to &lt;a href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/30/TheDifferenceBetweenASocialNetworkSiteASocialGraphApplicationAndASocialOS.aspx"&gt;the
definition of a social graph&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;it&amp;rsquo;s clear that what is important is that
it is a&amp;nbsp;graph of user relationships not one that is tied to a particular site
or service. From that perspective the &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb447750.aspx"&gt;Windows
Live Contacts API&lt;/a&gt; which provides a RESTful interface to the contents of a user&amp;rsquo;s&amp;nbsp;Windows
Live&amp;nbsp;address book&amp;nbsp;complete with the list of tags/relationship types the
user has applied to these contacts (e.g. &amp;ldquo;Family&amp;rdquo;, &amp;ldquo;Friends&amp;rdquo;,
&amp;ldquo;Coworkers&amp;rdquo;, etc) as well as which of these contacts are the user&amp;rsquo;s
buddies in &lt;a href="http://messenger.live.com/"&gt;Windows Live Messenger&lt;/a&gt; is a social
graph API.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
On the other hand, this API does not give you access to the user&amp;rsquo;s &lt;a href="http://carnage4life.spaces.live.com/friends/"&gt;Spaces
friends list&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;My assumption is that Mary Jo&amp;rsquo;s questions were
specific to social networking sites which is why George gave that misleading answer.
In addition, &lt;a href="http://www.goland.org/"&gt;Yaron&lt;/a&gt; is fond of pointing out to
me that the API is in alpha so there is still a lot that can change from now until
we stamp it as v1. Until then, I&amp;rsquo;ll also decline to comment on any future plans. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
As for the claim made by Matt Rosoff, I tend to agree with his assertion that the
viral propagation of applications via the Facebook&amp;rsquo;s social graph is attractive
to developers. However this attractiveness comes with the price of both the users
and developers being &lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/davenet/2001/07/06/theMicroChannelArchitectur.html"&gt;locked
in Facebook&amp;rsquo;s trunk&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
I personally believe that the Web is the platform and this philosophy shines through
in the API efforts at Microsoft.&amp;nbsp;It may be that this is not as attractive to
developers today as it should be but eventually the Web will win. Everyone who has
fought the Web has lost. &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; will not
be an exception. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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Know You Dont Love Me (feat. G-Unit)&lt;/a&gt;
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      <title>Sarcastic Responses to Dumb Questions (Erick Schonfeld Edition)</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:29:48 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Erick Schonfeld from TechCrunch writes in his post &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/12/windows-live-skydrive-doubles-storage-to-1gb-still-cant-keep-up-with-gmail/"&gt;Windows
Live SkyDrive Doubles Storage to 1GB, Still Can&amp;rsquo;t Keep Up With Gmail&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;that 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Microsoft &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/skydriveteam.spaces.live.com');" href="http://skydriveteam.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21977F793E846B3C96%21879.entry"&gt;&lt;em&gt;doubled&lt;img class="snap_preview_icon" id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0pt; BACKGROUND-POSITION: -889px 0pt; BORDER-TOP: 0pt; DISPLAY: inline; PADDING-LEFT: 0pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; LEFT: auto; FLOAT: none; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/theme/silver/palette.gif); VISIBILITY: visible; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN: 0pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: 0pt; WIDTH: 14px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-TOP: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0pt; BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'trebuchet ms',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; POSITION: static; TOP: auto; HEIGHT: 12px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-DECORATION: none" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/t.gif" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; the
online storage consumers can get for free in Windows Live SkyDrive. It&amp;rsquo;s hard
to get excited about that when Gmail is already giving me 2.9 GB of storage, with &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/gmailblog.blogspot.com');" href="http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/more-gmail-storage-coming-for-all.html"&gt;&lt;em&gt;more
on the way&lt;img class="snap_preview_icon" id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0pt; BACKGROUND-POSITION: -889px 0pt; BORDER-TOP: 0pt; DISPLAY: inline; PADDING-LEFT: 0pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; LEFT: auto; FLOAT: none; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/theme/silver/palette.gif); VISIBILITY: visible; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN: 0pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: 0pt; WIDTH: 14px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-TOP: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0pt; BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'trebuchet ms',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; POSITION: static; TOP: auto; HEIGHT: 12px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-DECORATION: none" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/t.gif" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;mdash;4GB
by the end of the month, and 6GB by early January, according to one &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/googlified.com');" href="http://googlified.com/2007gmail-updates-storage-estimation/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;estimate&lt;img class="snap_preview_icon" id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0pt; BACKGROUND-POSITION: -889px 0pt; BORDER-TOP: 0pt; DISPLAY: inline; PADDING-LEFT: 0pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; LEFT: auto; FLOAT: none; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/theme/silver/palette.gif); VISIBILITY: visible; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN: 0pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: 0pt; WIDTH: 14px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; PADDING-TOP: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0pt; BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'trebuchet ms',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; POSITION: static; TOP: auto; HEIGHT: 12px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-DECORATION: none" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v2.26.1/t.gif" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
You&amp;rsquo;d think that someone who works as a pseudo-journalist on a popular technology
website would be able to tell the difference between an email service and a file storage
service.&amp;nbsp;You&amp;rsquo;d think he&amp;rsquo;d want to compare apples to apples and compare
GMail&amp;rsquo;s 2.9 GB of Storage with Windows Live Hotmail&amp;rsquo;s &lt;a href="http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!43573.entry"&gt;5
Gigabytes of Storage&lt;/a&gt; or compare the capabuilities of Microsoft&amp;rsquo;s SkyDrive
with Google&amp;rsquo;s GDrive.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
Except &lt;a href="http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-08-19-n82.html"&gt;Google hasn&amp;rsquo;t
figured out how to ship GDrive for over 5 years&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;so it would be an&amp;nbsp;apples
to &lt;em&gt;vaporware&lt;/em&gt; comparison.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img title="Smile" style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" alt="Smile" src="http://shared.live.com/QGncRMHLLpIcOfCh--4aMA/emoticons/smile_regular.gif" /&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;
Much love to my SkyDrive peeps on their new release. The champagne and ice cream yesterday
was much appreciated. You can learn more about their release from the post &lt;a href="http://skydriveteam.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!977F793E846B3C96!879.entry"&gt;Updates
to Windows Live SkyDrive!&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on their team blog. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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Hero&lt;/a&gt;
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        <p>
Two things I worked on over the past year or so shipped today. The first is <a href="http://events.live.com">Windows
Live Events</a>. You can learn more about in the post entitled <a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%218AA773FE0A12B9E3%2139775.entry">Introducing
Windows Live Events and new Windows Live Spaces updates</a> by Chris Keating and Jay
Fluegel which reads 
<br /></p>
        <p style="margin-left: 40px;">
          <span>
            <p style="font-style: italic;">
              <b>
                <u>Easily create a great-looking website for your next event<br /></u>
              </b>To offer you more ways to connect and share memories with the people you care
about most, the team that brought you Spaces would love to hear your feedback on Windows
Live Events, our new, free social event planning service.  With Events you can
easily: 
</p>
            <ul style="font-style: italic;">
              <li>
Plan that next baby shower, birthday party, or family reunion 
</li>
              <li>
Create a great-looking event invitation and website using one of over 100 fantastic
templates 
</li>
              <li>
Invite anyone with an e-mail address and track who’s coming 
</li>
              <li>
Make your event unique with familiar customization features - choosing a friendly
web address (like <a href="http://kates1stbirthday.events.live.com/">http://kates1stbirthday.events.live.com</a>),
using custom colors, fonts, and background images, or adding modules and Windows Live
web gadgets 
</li>
              <li>
Let guests and organizers share photos and stories before and after the event</li>
            </ul>
            <p>
              <span style="font-style: italic;">Click on </span>
              <b style="font-style: italic;">Events</b>
              <span style="font-style: italic;"> from
the new navigation and then click </span>
              <b style="font-style: italic;">Create event</b>
              <span style="font-style: italic;"> to
get started!</span>
            </p>
          </span>
        </p>
        <p>
My contribution to this release was working on modifying aspects of our contacts and
storage platform to understand the concept of groups of users that can be treated
as a single entity [especially with regards to joint ownership of objects, sharing
and access control lists] instead of being centered on a single user. I expect that
Windows Live Events will be just the first of <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/10/08/ramping-up-for-windows-live-events-and-maybe-groups-too.aspx">many
ways in which this capability will manifest itself across Windows Live</a>. 
</p>
        <p>
Unfortunately, I didn't work on the final stage of getting the platform ready for
the product to ship. Instead I went on to work on my next feature that shipped today
while <a href="http://ali.spaces.live.com">Ali</a> took over working on the platform
support for Windows Live Events including <strike>cleaning up my design hacks</strike> doing
a better job of future proofing the design than I did. Mad props to Bob Bauman, Mike
Newman, Jason Antonelli, John Kountz, Lalit Jina, <a href="http://neel.spaces.live.com">Neel
Malik</a>, <a href="http://mike.spaces.live.com">Mike Torres</a> and everyone else
who worked on this release across Windows Live. You guys rock. 
<br /></p>
        <p>
The second thing I was a part of building which shipped today is the updated “What’s
New” page in <a href="http://spaces.live.com">Windows Live Spaces</a> which is also
described in detail in the aforementioned post by Chris Keating and Jay Fluegel .
Before you say anything, Yes, its re-design has been influenced by the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/homepage.php">Facebook
News Feed</a> feature. Below is a screen shot of the old design of the page from the
previous release
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/content/binary/old-whatsnew.JPG" border="0" />
        </p>
        <p>
and now contrast that with the new version of the page
</p>
        <p>
          <img src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/content/binary/dare-whatsnew1.JPG" border="0" />
        </p>
        <p>
I'm pretty jazzed about getting to work on this feature since it is something I've
wanted do for a quite some time. A few years ago, I remember talking to <a href="http://mayav.spaces.live.com/"><font color="#000000">Maya</font></a> about
building a “friends page” similar to the <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=219&amp;view=full">Live
Journal friends page</a> in MSN Spaces and at the time the response was that I was
requesting that we merge the functionality of an RSS reader with a blogging/social
networking site which was at cross purposes. In hindsight, I realize that although
the idea was a good one, the implementation I was suggesting was kind of hokey. Then <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> shipped
the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/homepage.php">News Feed</a> and it all
clicked. 
</p>
        <p>
I worked with a lot of great folks on this feature. <a href="http://dotpaul.spaces.live.com">Paul
Ming</a>, Deepa Chandramouli, <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/">Rob Dolin</a>, <a href="http://vanesa.spaces.live.com">Vanesa
Polo Dominguez</a>, Jack Liu, Eric Melillo and a bunch of others who I may have failed
to mention but still deserve lots of praise. This feature was the most fun I've had
working in Windows Live. Not only did I get a deeper appreciation of designing for
scalability but I also got to see what it is like to be responsible for components
on the live site. All I need now is a pager and I'm good to go. :) 
<br /></p>
        <p>
I'd be remiss in my duties if I didn't point out that in the second screen shot, the
first item on the What's New page is less than 5 minutes old. If you use other systems
that have similar features, you may have noticed a much longer delay than a few minutes
from posting to showing up in your news feed. As the saying goes, <span style="font-style: italic;">a
lot of effort went into making this look effortless</span>. 
</p>
        <p>
I also noticed some initial feedback on this feature in the blog post by Jamie Thomson
entitled <a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21550F681DAD532637%211912.entry">new
spaces home page</a> where he writes 
<br /></p>
        <p style="margin-left: 40px;">
          <span>
            <p style="font-style: italic;">
There's a lot of potential for this activity list given that it could capture any
activity people commit using their Live ID. Every live property has the potential
for being able to post activity on here so one day we may see notifications of: 
</p>
            <ul style="font-style: italic;">
              <li>
change of messenger status 
</li>
              <li>
posting of photos on Live Space 
</li>
              <li>
addition of gadgets to Live Space 
</li>
              <li>
items placed for sale on Expo 
</li>
              <li>
questions asked or answered on QnA 
</li>
              <li>
collection shared from Live Maps 
</li>
              <li>
video posted on MSN video 
</li>
              <li>
changes to XBox gamer card 
</li>
              <li>
changes to Zune Social (after it launches) 
</li>
              <li>
items posted to the Live Gallery 
</li>
              <li>
an event being planned 
</li>
              <li>
purchased a song from Zune marketplace 
</li>
              <li>
posts in MSN groups (soon to be Live Groups) 
</li>
              <li>
posts to online forums (forums.microsoft.com) 
</li>
              <li>
downloads of public files from Skydrive</li>
            </ul>
            <p>
              <span style="font-style: italic;">Its all pretty good but let's be honest, this is
basically a clone of of what Facebook already have. Given Facebook's popularity though
Microsoft didn't really have a choice but to copy them. If Microsoft really want to
differentiate themselves in this arena then one option would be to provide avenues
for interacting with other online services such as Flickr, Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce,  etc...
This list could then become an aggregator for all online activity and that's a pretty
compelling scenario. One really quick win in this area would be to capture any blog
entry that is posted from Live Writer, regardless of whether it is posted to Live
Spaces or not.</span>
              <br />
            </p>
          </span>
        </p>
        <p>
Posting of photos already shows up on the "what's new" page. Downloads of files will
likely never show up for privacy reasons, I'm sure you can guess why it may not be
wise to broadcast what files you were downloading from shared folders to all your
IM buddies and the people friends list if you think about it a little. As for the
rest of the request, thanks for the feedback. We'll keep it in mind for future releases. <img src="http://shared.live.com/TbRB5QUAj%219gMQWPUATZLg/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" title="Wink" alt="Wink" style="vertical-align: middle;" /></p>
        <p>
          <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">PS:</span> If you work
for a Microsoft property that would like to show up on the "what's new" page, host
it or just wanna plain chat about the feature then give me a shout if interested in
the platform or holler at <a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/">Rob</a> if it's
about the user experience.<br /></p>
        <br />
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      <title>Windows Live Events and Updated "What's New" page on Windows Live Spaces</title>
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      <description> &lt;p&gt;
Two things I worked on over the past year or so shipped today. The first is &lt;a href="http://events.live.com"&gt;Windows
Live Events&lt;/a&gt;. You can learn more about in the post entitled &lt;a href="http://thespacecraft.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%218AA773FE0A12B9E3%2139775.entry"&gt;Introducing
Windows Live Events and new Windows Live Spaces updates&lt;/a&gt; by Chris Keating and Jay
Fluegel which reads 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;
&lt;span&gt;
&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Easily create a great-looking website for your next event&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;To offer you more ways to connect and share memories with the people you care
about most, the team that brought you Spaces would love to hear your feedback on Windows
Live Events, our new, free social event planning service.&amp;nbsp; With Events you can
easily: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul style="font-style: italic;"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Plan that next baby shower, birthday party, or family reunion 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Create a great-looking event invitation and website using one of over 100 fantastic
templates 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Invite anyone with an e-mail address and track who’s coming 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Make your event unique with familiar customization features - choosing a friendly
web address (like &lt;a href="http://kates1stbirthday.events.live.com/"&gt;http://kates1stbirthday.events.live.com&lt;/a&gt;),
using custom colors, fonts, and background images, or adding modules and Windows Live
web gadgets 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Let guests and organizers share photos and stories before and after the event&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Click on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Events&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; from
the new navigation and then click &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Create event&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; to
get started!&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
My contribution to this release was working on modifying aspects of our contacts and
storage platform to understand the concept of groups of users that can be treated
as a single entity [especially with regards to joint ownership of objects, sharing
and access control lists] instead of being centered on a single user. I expect that
Windows Live Events will be just the first of &lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2007/10/08/ramping-up-for-windows-live-events-and-maybe-groups-too.aspx"&gt;many
ways in which this capability will manifest itself across Windows Live&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Unfortunately, I didn't work on the final stage of getting the platform ready for
the product to ship. Instead I went on to work on my next feature that shipped today
while &lt;a href="http://ali.spaces.live.com"&gt;Ali&lt;/a&gt; took over working on the platform
support for Windows Live Events including &lt;strike&gt;cleaning up my design hacks&lt;/strike&gt; doing
a better job of future proofing the design than I did. Mad props to Bob Bauman, Mike
Newman, Jason Antonelli, John Kountz, Lalit Jina, &lt;a href="http://neel.spaces.live.com"&gt;Neel
Malik&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://mike.spaces.live.com"&gt;Mike Torres&lt;/a&gt; and everyone else
who worked on this release across Windows Live. You guys rock. 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The second thing I was a part of building which shipped today is the updated “What’s
New” page in &lt;a href="http://spaces.live.com"&gt;Windows Live Spaces&lt;/a&gt; which is also
described in detail in the aforementioned post by Chris Keating and Jay Fluegel .
Before you say anything, Yes, its re-design has been influenced by the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/homepage.php"&gt;Facebook
News Feed&lt;/a&gt; feature. Below is a screen shot of the old design of the page from the
previous release
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/content/binary/old-whatsnew.JPG" border="0"&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
and now contrast that with the new version of the page
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/content/binary/dare-whatsnew1.JPG" border="0"&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I'm pretty jazzed about getting to work on this feature since it is something I've
wanted do for a quite some time. A few&amp;nbsp;years ago, I remember talking to &lt;a href="http://mayav.spaces.live.com/"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Maya&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;about
building a “friends page” similar to the &lt;a href="http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=219&amp;amp;view=full"&gt;Live
Journal friends page&lt;/a&gt; in MSN Spaces and at the time the response was that I was
requesting that&amp;nbsp;we merge the functionality of an RSS reader with a blogging/social
networking site which was at cross purposes. In hindsight, I realize that although
the idea was a good one, the implementation I was suggesting was kind of hokey. Then &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; shipped
the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/homepage.php"&gt;News Feed&lt;/a&gt; and it all
clicked. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I worked with a lot of great folks on this feature. &lt;a href="http://dotpaul.spaces.live.com"&gt;Paul
Ming&lt;/a&gt;, Deepa Chandramouli, &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Rob Dolin&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://vanesa.spaces.live.com"&gt;Vanesa
Polo Dominguez&lt;/a&gt;, Jack Liu, Eric Melillo and a bunch of others who I may have failed
to mention but still deserve lots of praise. This feature was the most fun I've had
working in Windows Live. Not only did I get a deeper appreciation of designing for
scalability but I also got to see what it is like to be responsible for components
on the live site. All I need now is a pager and I'm good to go. :) 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I'd be remiss in my duties if I didn't point out that in the second screen shot, the
first item on the What's New page is less than 5 minutes old. If you use other systems
that have similar features, you may have noticed a much longer delay than a few minutes
from posting to showing up in your news feed. As the saying goes, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a
lot of effort went into making this look effortless&lt;/span&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I also noticed some initial feedback on this feature in the blog post by Jamie Thomson
entitled &lt;a href="http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21550F681DAD532637%211912.entry"&gt;new
spaces home page&lt;/a&gt; where he writes 
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;
&lt;span&gt;
&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;
There's a lot of potential for this activity list given that it could capture any
activity people commit using their Live ID. Every live property has the potential
for being able to post activity on here so one day we may see notifications of: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul style="font-style: italic;"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
change of messenger status 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
posting of photos on Live Space 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
addition of gadgets to Live Space 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
items placed for sale on Expo 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
questions asked or answered on QnA 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
collection shared from Live Maps 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
video posted on MSN video 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
changes to XBox gamer card 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
changes to Zune Social (after it launches) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
items posted to the Live Gallery 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
an event being planned 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
purchased a song from Zune marketplace 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
posts in MSN groups (soon to be Live Groups) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
posts to online forums (forums.microsoft.com) 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
downloads of&amp;nbsp;public files from Skydrive&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Its all pretty good but let's be honest, this is
basically a clone of of what Facebook already have. Given Facebook's popularity though
Microsoft didn't really have a choice but to copy them. If Microsoft really want to
differentiate themselves in this arena then one option would be to provide avenues
for interacting with other online services such as Flickr, Twitter, Jaiku, Pownce,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;etc...
This list could then become an aggregator for all online activity and that's a pretty
compelling scenario. One really quick win in this area would be to capture any blog
entry that is posted from Live Writer, regardless of whether it is posted to Live
Spaces or not.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Posting of photos already shows up on the "what's new" page. Downloads of files will
likely never show up for privacy reasons, I'm sure you can guess why it may not be
wise to broadcast what files you were downloading from shared folders to all your
IM buddies and the people friends list if you think about it a little. As for the
rest of the request, thanks for the feedback. We'll keep it in mind for future releases.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://shared.live.com/TbRB5QUAj%219gMQWPUATZLg/emoticons/smile_wink.gif" title="Wink" alt="Wink" style="vertical-align: middle;"&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;PS:&lt;/span&gt; If you work
for a Microsoft property that would like to show up on the "what's new" page, host
it or just wanna plain chat about the feature then give me a shout if interested in
the platform or holler at &lt;a href="http://robdolin.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt; if it's
about the user experience.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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