March 15, 2004
@ 04:35 PM

It what seems to be the strangest news story I've read this year I find out Sun snatches up XML guru what I found particularly interesting in the story was the following excerpt

One of the areas Bray expects to work on is developing new applications for Web logs, or "blogs," and the RSS (Resource Description Framework Site Summary) technology that grew out of them. "I think that this is potentially a game-changer in some respects, and there are quite a few folks at Sun who share that opinion," he said.

Though RSS is traditionally thought of as a Web publishing tool, it could be used for much more than keeping track of the latest posts to blogs and Web sites, Bray said. "I would like to have an RSS feed to my bank account, my credit card, and my stock portfolio," he said.

Personally I think it's a waste of Tim Bray's talents having him work on RSS or it's competitor du jour, Atom, but it should be fun seeing whether he can get Sun out of it's XML funk as well stop them from spreading poisonous ideas like replacing XML with ASN.1.

Update: Tim Bray has a post about his new job entitled Sunny Boy where he writes

That aside, I’m comfy being officially a direct competitor of Microsoft. On the technical side, I find the APIs inelegant, the UI aesthetics juvenile, and the neglect of the browser maddening.

Sounds like fighting words. This should be fun. :)


Monday, March 15, 2004 6:31:50 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Well that explains why Bray's blog had sadly turned into an almost juvenile MS bashers page. He should feel right at home in his new surroundings.
Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:04:49 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Sounds like he wants to turn RSS into an alternative form of webservice, instead of SOAP and WSDL et al.
Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:16:32 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
After reading through much of Bray's site, I don't think I would ever consider him an expert on much of anything.

His agenda for joining Sun is Sky High.

Thirdly, he talks like he is a bad ass, although I am not sure he has created anything that is worthy of my attention.
Ryan Dawson
Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:32:47 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Ryan, Tim created XML (well, if that's worthy of your attention).
After all I think it's good to have Tim Bray in competitors. That's kinda challenge.
Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:29:44 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I agree that having Bray work on RSS/ATOM/whatever is a waste of time. He should really be looking at organzing the XML technologies at SUN. I do not agree with his views on .NET, he sounds like he hasn't worked with .NET to make any fair decision on its shortcomings.
Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:51:23 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Dare, is it bad to replace ASN.1 with XML? What wrong about doing it? Isnt it the natural step to be made?
Im just asking...
Peter Dwayne Dawson
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