Friday, April 21, 2006 12:52:55 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
No, not sweet at all!!!!!!!
Why in the world do I want my favorites available in Messenger?? What would I do with them there??? I'm sorry, this is just an extraordinarily dumb idea!! Keep the favorites in the web browser where they actually make sense! Sheeeeesh!
lukem
Friday, April 21, 2006 2:37:22 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Well if I'm not mistaken one advantage is that you'd have your favorites list available anywhere you go. Since most computer have a version of MSN Messenger on them you'll have access to your favorites whereever you go.
Samuel
Friday, April 21, 2006 11:33:14 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
I have to agree with lukem. This is the sort of integration I REALLY don't need. Just putting everything everywhere, without considering whether it makes sense. I see that there is a need for the roaming scenario, but in that case I can just sign into the favorites web site and don't need it in Messenger. Also keep in mind that the register cards are actually switched OFF (or should be) for public/shared computers, so that this really, really doesn't work.
David
Friday, April 21, 2006 8:20:53 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Honestly?

No. That's the sort of interface that makes me stick to gaim.

Do we buy toasters with electric knives attached? Do we want toilets with integrated radios? No! (Ok, maybe they do in Japan...)

I think what consumers want is for things to do one thing and to do it well. It's why Mozilla failed but Firebird and Thunderbird both succeeded.

(Though I guess I'm talking about the interface as a whole, not the favorites thing. That sounds cool...for a browser.)
ucblockhead
Friday, April 21, 2006 9:27:44 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
Also: I have long stopped looking at the tabs in Messenger. I see them simply as advertising points, ie starting points into some other services that I have never asked for. So I ignore them. I would never start looking in the tabs for data that belongs to me, like my favorites. The whole are to me is labeled as "ad area". I think that is a fundamental design flaw here: Don't mix ad space with space for additional functionality. Either have tabs ONLY for things I have really asked for, ie signed up at some point, or ONLY for ads. Don't mix. I feel one of the strong points of Google is their clear indication of what is ad in their UI. Messenger's tabs are a prime example of how to not do it.
David
Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:56:31 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
So while I'm at it:

Messenger could be soooooooooooooooooooooo improved by just dropping all this sucky extra UI.

1) Why do I need or want to SEARCH THE WEB from my messaging client?

2) Why are there those crappy cheap looking banner ads? It looks like KaZAAa already. Can Microsoft really be making enough money from those to justify it sucking so hard??

3) As mentioned above. WTF is up with selling those tabs to the highest bidder. WHY IS EBAY IN MY MESSENGER???

4) And with regards to roaming. Okay. Roaming is great, maybe. But why is Messenger concerning itself with the roaming content from other apps? What does the Messenger team think they are, the new start menu or the new gatekeeper to "cloud content"???? PS: I was reading some article talking about how Microsoft people always call it the cloud. I would like to express my belief that the name "the cloud" also really sucks. It's called the Internet, people!!!

Okay, I am done for now. But really, how this could be defensible is completely beyond me. Sweet???? I still am just completely boggled.
lukem
Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:55:03 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
First of all I'm sorry for my bad english ;)

I think that a messanger should be like the OpenSource-Project "Gaim" - It is just a messanger without any extra like "Favorites", "Toolbar", "Adverts" and so on. So STOPP filling "Trash" into the messanger!!
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